Blackstar is the greatest hip hop album of all time? Why or why not?

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  • Jonas.dini
    Jonas.dini Confirm Email Posts: 2,507 ✭✭
    edited January 2011
    I'd probably say it's one of the top fifteen or so albums of the 90s.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
    bluprint wrote: »
    Illmatic is overrated short and just not that great
    The world is yours, one love, it aint hard to tell>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aquemini
  • mistaincredible
    mistaincredible Members Posts: 300
    edited January 2011
    Yo, I'm sure that everbody out listenin agree
    That everything you see ain't really how it be
    A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style
    Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile
    Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria
    Synthesized surface conceals the interior
    America, land of opportunity, mirages and camoflauges
    More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin
    You confusin me, you losin me
    Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
    Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
    Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
    Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass
    Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past
    Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on
    Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
    Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
    Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship
    Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
    Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old ?
    Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
    That they been runnin across stars through all the time with
    I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between
    We either ? or Kings
    We either ? or Queens
    The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
    Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
    Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
    The length of black life is treated with short worth
    Get yours first, them other ? secondary
    That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary
    This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
    Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
    Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
    That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
    Not free, we only licensed
    Not live, we just excitin
    Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
    Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
    Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
    Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
    most of the things that we think, do, or say
    We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
    But everyday, next man meet with the grave
    I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
    I'm tryin to live life in the sight of ? 's memory
    Like that y'all


    -Best Mos Def verse IMO

    Love that album

    thieves in the night is in my top 5 fave songs
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
    Mos stoled the show on theives in the night
  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Members Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
    thieves in the night is in my top 5 fave songs

    That's my Fav song on the album. I'mma listen to Black Star tomorrow.
  • CoolJoe
    CoolJoe Members Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
    Yo, I'm sure that everbody out listenin agree
    That everything you see ain't really how it be
    A lot of jokers out runnin in place, chasin the style
    Be a lot goin on beneath the empty smile
    Most cats in my area be lovin the hysteria
    Synthesized surface conceals the interior
    America, land of opportunity, mirages and camoflauges
    More than usually -- speakin loudly, sayin nothin
    You confusin me, you losin me
    Your game is twisted, want me enlisted -- in your usary
    Foolishly, most men join the ranks cluelessly
    Buffoonishly accept the deception, believe the perception
    Reflection rarely seen across the surface of the lookin glass
    Walkin the street, wonderin who they be lookin past
    Lookin gassed with them imported designer shades on
    Stars shine bright, but the light -- rarely stays on
    Same song, just remixed, different arrangement
    Put you on a yacht but they won't call it a slaveship
    Strangeness, you don't control this, you barely hold this
    Screamin brand new, when they just sanitized the old ?
    Suppose it's, just another clever Jedi mind trick
    That they been runnin across stars through all the time with
    I find it's distressin, there's never no in-between
    We either ? or Kings
    We either ? or Queens
    The deadly ritual seems immersed, in the perverse
    Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts
    Long barrel automatics released in short bursts
    The length of black life is treated with short worth
    Get yours first, them other ? secondary
    That type of illin that be fillin up the cemetary
    This life is temporary but the soul is eternal
    Separate the real from the lie, let me learn you
    Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
    That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
    Not free, we only licensed
    Not live, we just excitin
    Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
    Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
    Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
    Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
    most of the things that we think, do, or say
    We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
    But everyday, next man meet with the grave
    I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
    I'm tryin to live life in the sight of ? 's memory
    Like that y'all


    -Best Mos Def verse IMO

    Love that album

    That's one of the 3 greatest verses ever IMO.
  • CoolJoe
    CoolJoe Members Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2011
    Mos stoled the show on theives in the night

    Kweli had a great verse.....Mos just blacked out something serious on that.
    Actually, let me listen to that ? right now.
  • supaman4321
    supaman4321 Members Posts: 946
    edited February 2011
    very very good album but I can't give it (or any hip-hop album) the nod of Black on Both Sides, both have outstanding production and content thoughtout, but Mos is my favorite rapper of all time, so whereas some of a good thing can be good, more is better. No diss to Kweli.
  • real_hh_rep
    real_hh_rep Members Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    It's one of those albums where you discover new things with each listening. That's a true testament to its greatness. It didn't age at all. With old school vibe kept on, it still sounds fresh and actual today. It's definitely one of my all time favs.
  • Ibex
    Ibex Members Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    A simple... ? Outta Here...should suffice
  • L.P. Royal Flush
    L.P. Royal Flush Members Posts: 770
    edited February 2011
    I disagree, but I don't disagree to the point where I don't see why you would say that...I can understand why some would say that, the album is great on all angles, from production to lyrics and featured artist, to this day I think Common spit on of the dopest verses in his career on Respiration. But there are albums I think is better than that album.. Aquemini, Makaveli, It's Dark And Hell Is Hot, Stillmatic and some other albums...
  • master_mentor
    master_mentor Members Posts: 222
    edited February 2011
    Great album and definately a classic. But not greatest Hip Hop album of all-time, if you compare them to other duos releasing music. Outkast - Aquemini ? all over them.

    I general i think the greatest hip hop albums are

    1) Public Enemy It takes a nation to hold us back
    2) Rakim Paid in Full
    3) Nas Illmatic
    4) Ice Cube AmeriKKKas most wanted
    5) Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
  • NothingButTheTruth
    NothingButTheTruth Members Posts: 10,850 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Great album and definately a classic. But not greatest Hip Hop album of all-time, if you compare them to other duos releasing music. Outkast - Aquemini ? all over them.

    I general i think the greatest hip hop albums are

    1) Public Enemy It takes a nation to hold us back
    2) Rakim Paid in Full
    3) Nas Illmatic
    4) Ice Cube AmeriKKKas most wanted
    5) Lauryn Hill The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

    Great post...