Devastating Moves Now Common place

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young law
young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
edited February 2011 in Off The Turn Buckle
so i saw king execute a DDT on Miz
Miz sold it like it was supposed to be sold

the DDT was at one time considered a very dangerous move,
banned in some promotions

when Jake the Snake was doin the move he was looked at as a villain for droppin folks on the head


now the DDT is common place and folks jus get right back up


what are some other moves that were devastating but are now jus filler moves???
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    i also seen cm punk using the falcon suplex and r tuth jus freely doin falcon drops to 1-count kick outs
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FI5r9INDEs
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  • Mally_G
    Mally_G Members Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    powerbombs

    once feared because you could break someone's back or bash their heads against the mat, is now a normal move.


    I think when the cruiserweights started doing all the "big" moves, it cheapened their affect. Look back at old WCW tapes and watch the CW division go nuts using "big" moves to get over on their opponents.
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    oh ? ,
    cruiserweights kinda killed powerbombs for a minute
    i member psycosis,juvi,dean mlenko etc using PB's all the time in wcw & ecw

    but now they arent jus used all ? nilly
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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    dont blame the luchadores for wrestling the way lucha libre is supposed to be wrestled

    blame the booker for not telling those guys to sell big moves like americans do
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  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    edited February 2011
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    figure fours and sharpshooter etc......when bret/owen/sting or flair would do them ? would give up right away (before tapping out became the thing)
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  • Mally_G
    Mally_G Members Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    dalyricalbandit wrote: »
    figure fours and sharpshooter etc......when bret/owen/sting or flair would do them ? would give up right away (before tapping out became the thing)

    i remember what is now the "tap out" was just called "giving up". I think the "tap out" became a household name when Pancreas and the UFC were in their infancy in the early 90s. When Ken Shamrock came to the WWF, that's when dudes started to "tap out" to submissions. Rarely do I hear, "he gives up".

    I think the Figure 4 became exclusive to Ric Flair. The WWE has a thing with guys recycling moves made uber famous by a well respected wrestler. I think only Shawn Michaels was the last to be allowed to even chop dudes while in the corner because the crowd would do the 'woooo!!!', and since many people compare HBK to Flair, the WWE allowed him to do it but no one else.

    I remember when diving over the top rope to someone on the floor was the ? . Remember how Mike Tenay used to pump up Hector Garza and his Corkscrew Plancha? Now every dude under 6 feet has it in their moveset. It's a real spectacle to see a big man do moves like the 450 Splash or the Phoenix Splash. I think those moves still get 3-counts to this day because they are nice to see and not everyone can do them.
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  • Trollio
    Trollio Members Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    the leg drop
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  • DOPEdweebz
    DOPEdweebz Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 29,364 Regulator
    edited February 2011
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    the angle slam
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  • deeroc22
    deeroc22 Members Posts: 4,548 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    The Pile Driver.. altho i dont think its used much anymore....
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  • DOPEdweebz
    DOPEdweebz Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 29,364 Regulator
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    deeroc22 wrote: »
    The Pile Driver.. altho i dont think its used much anymore....

    i was gonna say that but then i rememberr back in 09 eric young sorta brought it back for awhile even tho it was "banned" from TNA and pro wrestling for that matter...


    The Top Rope Elbow Drop...
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    KingGivBiz wrote: »
    the angle slam

    who is jus using the angle slam on a regular basis???
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  • Chi-Town Bully
    Chi-Town Bully Members Posts: 29,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    young law wrote: »
    who is jus using the angle slam on a regular basis???

    Randy Orton
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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    the angle slam is just a samoan drop

    angle stole that ethnicity's only move

    meng should take him out
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    wow
    i jus youtub'd orton doin the angle slam,
    that is regular wwe ?

    they allow current talent to use foremer talent moves
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    KTULU IS BACK wrote: »
    the angle slam is just a samoan drop

    angle stole that ethnicity's only move

    meng should take him out

    its not as bad as john cena passing off the fireman's carry as a finisher
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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    isnt cena's move a death valley driver?
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  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    edited February 2011
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    Cobra clutch
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
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    KTULU IS BACK wrote: »
    isnt cena's move a death valley driver?

    NAH,
    how dare you insult perry saturn like that
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX7YO-HNUiY

    cena's FU is a standing fireman's carry
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  • G.R.I.P. Money $$$
    G.R.I.P. Money $$$ Members Posts: 18,939 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    c/s dvd has a lot more impact..
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    mally g got a point

    i member there used to not be tap outs

    the ref would come raise your hand and if you drop it three times then that would a "quit"

    and also he would ask the wrestler if they give up or quit and they would verbally respond

    thats why you still hear refs ask "do you give up" sometimes,
    but
    even that was ruined by the wwe because of the "i quit" match being popularized as the match where a wrestler must say "i quit"
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  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
    edited February 2011
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    I quit>>>>>>>>>tappin out
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  • Mally_G
    Mally_G Members Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    some of the time, the guy would be trying to get out of the submission hold, like a sharpshooter or cloverleaf and would be trying to get his hands planted under his body to do a push up or reach for the ropes and the referee would say he tapped out.

    i know the ? is fake and it's the extra added drama to the match, but most of the time you can tell if the dude is tapping or reaching and they always say he was tapping.

    the most memorable time this happened was in ECW when Taz locked the Tazmission on Bam Bam Bigelow on the outside ramp, and Bam Bam was reaching for the ropes and the referee said he tapped out and rang the bell. Bam Bam was legitimately reaching for the ropes because when that bell rang, his arms were outstretched and he was visibly ? . Again, I know it's fake. Shane Douglas was doing the commentary and was so ? he threw a monitor down from the announcing balcony down into the crowd and kept yelling "? !!!! ? !!!! ? !!!! ? !!!! ? !!!!"

    check it out starting at 3:40, but ? , the entire match was a beast.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgwK0nTvypM
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  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    what do you mean its fake, bruh?

    i drop the peoples elbow and the five knuckle shuffle on dirtbags in real life
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  • Mally_G
    Mally_G Members Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    KTULU IS BACK wrote: »
    what do you mean its fake, bruh?

    i drop the peoples elbow and the five knuckle shuffle on dirtbags in real life
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvTNyKIGXiI

    it's how you feel, huh?
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  • young law
    young law Members Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
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    got dayum
    you beat me to the video

    as a kid that was my exact mindset

    dude has the true heart of a fan

    i want a t-shirt that says "ITS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT"

    i bet that dues knows match lengths,
    can remember a card from 1994 top to bottom,
    can tell you how many times the dusty finish was used,
    and how many different workers have worked as undertaker's torch carriers

    thats a true fan.....mark
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