The Arab Revolution-----Revolution beyond borders

Alkindus
Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
edited February 2011 in The Social Lounge
Brothers and sisters

It has begun

the ? we never ever thought was possible is happening, from my native land morocco to yemen...

This is the beginning of the end for dictators,ben ali is gone, mubarak is gone, libya is falling! qadhafi is allmost down! Who the ? thought that would happen?

Now maybe some of you dont give a damn, but these are historical times, this will change the status quo(economies/constitutions) what is happening right now is just incredible...

I have been on the phone with familie and friends all over the region for the last few weeks and I feel sad for not being there during these historical times but it is as it is and whats happening right now just goes beyond everything ever happened in my life ever. We never went against the government like this and still lived, seeing all those people taking a stand on such a large scale is just breathtaking. This is an international revolution....

My heart goes out for the bros and sistas putting their life on the line right now and for those that have died already

You can post articles etc in this thread if you wish, we all expect more news from africa/asia

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  • Olorun22
    Olorun22 Members Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Now after that the black aficans can kick the arabs out
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    Now after that the black aficans can kick the arabs out

    LOL people of all backgrounds over there screaming for freedom for all and you come up with this intolerant plight? what does that say about you ?

    edit: and for the record, many people differ in perception/labeling of human diversity but best believe that arabs are africans and there are 'black' africans/arabs just like there are 'non-black' africans/arabs. If you want black africans to kick out the arabs than many people will start kicking out themselves lol.
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Young-Ice wrote: »
    now would be the perfect time for a world wide protest

    might as well fix the whole world while we're at it
    other wise the western world is just going to keep financially supporting corrupt leaders in other countries when it benefits them

    Yeah that would be incredible, hell call me naive but I believe everything is possible at the moment, surely the (opressed) world will take notice, if this continous at the pace it goes now, I wouldn't be suprised if people in the americas, east europe other parts of asia etc start marching through the streets, I heard people were protesting against the Chinese government in China but got beatdown etc, I'm being open minded for everything right now man, if you asked me if there would be a revolution in an arab land not so long ago I would have laughed at you because I gave up that hope yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaars ago, now that this is happening it's like I'm wakening up myself, childhood dreams coming back and ? lol I can still barely believe what is happening/

    If it can happen over there, really it could happen everywhere.

    this is just the beginning and it will take time before the wanted social democracies etc emerge but the message is clear, the people dont care anymore which government supports whom, out with the old and in with the new.right now it may be just symbols that are falling but I have good faith that this truelly is the end of dictators

    I mean qadhafi is the head of the african union, best believe this will not limit itself to just islamic africa.
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    My ? , they are attacking protesters in Libya via military(air) force and the state television just announced an militray offense to cleanse the streets of 'etrror' this is going wrong


    edit: here follow this english link: http://english.aljazeera.net/ this is one of the best journalism outlet in the world man
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    According to reuters and other sources the military just bombed parts of tripoli 5 minutes ago...
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    ebruary 21

    7:56pm: Al Jazeera Arabic is speaking to a political activist in Tripoli, who tells us there are airstrikes "all over Tripoli".

    There is death, fear - and women are crying everywhere. The strikes are concentrated against areas that sent large number of protestors to the streets and there are cars full of foreign fighters firing on people.

    He says at least 250 people were killed in the past 24 hours alone and is calling for international help. He tells us Tripoli is "under siege by foreign fighters" - that water and electricity have been cut and there is a shortage of food and medical supplies. "It is a genocide," he says.

    7:45pm: The defected pilots reportedly tell Maltese officials they were based in Tripoli and ordered to attack protesters on the ground in Benghazi. After seeing their fellow pilots begin the airstrikes, they diverted course toward Malta. If substantiated, this would appear to confirm the use of airstrikes against civilian protesters in cities around the country.



    7:39pm: Karl Stagno-Novarra, Al Jazeera's correspondent in Malta, reports the pilots of the jet fighters that landed there are "senior colonels", who were ordered to bomb protesters. They refused and have defected to Malta, he said.

    7:19pm: The EU Council of Foreign Ministers issues the following statement:

    The Council condemns the ongoing repression against demonstrators in Libya and deplores the violence and death of civilians. The Council calls for an immediate end to the use of force against protesters and for all parties to show restraint. Freedom of expression and the right to assemble peacefully are human rights and fundamental freedoms of every human being which must be respected and protected.

    7:16pm: The US Department of State warns citizens of the potential for "ongoing unrest" in Libya. They say:

    Violent clashes between protesters and security forces continue throughout Libya, including in Tripoli. Spontaneous demonstrations, violence, and looting are possible throughout the next several days.

    7:12pm: A Libyan contact in Zuwarah tells us, via Skype:

    I ask Libyans abroad to move and put pressure on the regime. I want each Libyan abroad to talk to each other and to take action. All mobiles are cut and all communications are shut down and we fear that at the time of Maghreb [sunset] that the situation will be getting worse - as we don't have weapons. We must be united, have faith, and we pray that tonight will pass safely.


    7:09pm: Dutch ISP provider XS4ALL has set up an internet dial-up service for Libya.


    Use your modem to dial +31205350535
    username: xs4all
    password: xs4all

    7:05pm: The Libyan ambassador to Indonesia has also resigned, Al Jazeera Arabic reports.

    6:52pm: The Libyan ambassador to the United Kingdom has resigned, alongside other embassy staff. They have joined demonstrators, Al Jazeera Arabic reported.

    6:46pm: Al Jazeera, alonside specialist technical investigators, have pinpointed the source of its signal blockage to a Libyan intelligence agency building, south of the capital Tripoli. The network's website has also been blocked in the country, with Libyan users getting the message: "File does not exist" when they try to access it.

    A spokesman for Al Jazeera said:

    The media should be able to operate freely, so all interference with our work and our broadcast signal should cease forthwith.

    6:42pm: Senior diplomatic sources tell Al Jazeera - on condition of confidentiality - that phones are being monitored and text messages jammed. Nearly all embassies are evacuating non-essential staff, and all have been ordered by Libya's foreign ministry to close immediately - and to remain closed until Sunday.

    6:38pm: Venezuelan officials deny Gaddafi is on his way there.

    6:34pm: Reuters reports British foreign secretary William Hague says Gaddafi "may be on his way to Venezuela". On the sidelines of the EU crisis talks, he reportedly said:

    You asked me earlier about whether Colonel Gaddafi is in Venezuela - I have no information that says he is, but I have seen some information that suggests he is on his way there at the moment.

    6:30pm: Planes of the Libyan Air Force reportedly opening fire on protesters in central Tripoli. No way to confirm this currently - but we are getting many reports of chaos on the streets of the capital.

    6:26pm: Further reports of live ammunition being used on protesters in Tripoli, with lots of tweets saying security forces are again driving cars around the city, shooting at everyone and everything.

    Ahmed Elgazir, a human rights researcher, told Al Jazeera that Libya News Centre, an organisation based in Geneva, had received a call for help from a woman "witnessing the massacre" in progress, who called on a satellite phone after landlines were cut.

    6:14pm: Our TV news channel shows scenes of jubilant protesters in Benghazi. Don't forget, you can tune in by clicking here.



    And, if you're in the United States, you can Demand Al Jazeera on your cable provider

    5:54pm: The London School of Economics - where Saif al-Islam Gaddafi attended university - says it is reviewing its links with Libya. The university says it has previously "delivered executive education programmes to Libyan officials, principally from the Economic Development Board". It has also received funding for scholarships in return for "advice given to the Libyan Investment Authority in London".

    It is not expecting any further funds, the school says, but "intends to continue its work on democratisation in North Africa funded from other sources unrelated to the Libyan authorities".

    5:50pm: Geneva-based Libyan News Network reports phones cut in Tripoli, amid "massacre" in Green Square. More details being sought.

    5:40pm: Two civilian helicopters, followed by two Libyan fighter jets, have landed in Malta. Only one of at least seven passengers are reported to be carrying passports. All passengers are currently being held by immigration officials. Al Jazeera's Karl Stagno-Novarra, reporting from Malta, says the Mediterranean island is preparing to be used as a base for evacuation of European citizens from Libya, one hour's flight away.

    5:37pm: At EU crisis talks in Brussels, Alexander Stubb, Finland's foreign minister, tells Al Jazeera:

    It is up to the leadership of Libya to listen to its people. And to be quite honest, listening people does not mean you should be using a machine gun.

    5:25pm: Demonstrations in solidarity with anti-Gaddafi protesters have broken out at Libyan embassies and consulates around the world. Here are some photos sent to us from Malta:









    5:10pm: The Egyptian Association for Human Rights is calling on the military to evacuate Egyptians from Libya, saying Seif Gaddafi's speech last night - during which he blamed "foreign forces" (among other elements) - threatened Egyptians in Libya.

    5:07pm: Ahmad Jibreel, Libyan diplomat, tells Al Jazeera:

    The minister of security has, by the way, joined too … He is currently in Benghazi - actually he is with the people, he is one of the people starting to fight the mercenaries and Gaddafi’s guards

    4:58pm: A Libyan consul secretary, a translator and a receptionist have quit their jobs at the embassy in Stockholm. In a letter, they write:

    We condemn the genocide of civilians taking place in Libya following their legitimate demands of life in dignity and without the despot Gadaffi's continued mismanagement and corruption.

    We find the situation unbearable: we don't want to be passive when we see that people rise up against the tyrant despite the obvious risk that their blood is spilled. Therefore we resign in protest and urge others to make their voices heard.

    Translator Sayed Jalabi adds:


    It is because of what is happening in Libya. We believe that we can not continue working at an embassy, which stands for a regime that oppresses and mass-murdering people.



    4:51pm: Gaddafi's security forces reportedly surround the home of Jumaa Al Ousta - general secretary of Libya's trade and industry chamber. They are threatenening to burn it down, after he was critical of Gaddafi in an interview with Al Jazeera.

    4:45pm: A White House official tells reporters President Obama's administration is "seeking clarification" from Libyan counterparts "as we continue to raise with them the need to avoid violence against peaceful protesters and to respect human rights". Says they are analysing last night's speech by Saif Gaddafi "to see what possibilities it contains for meaningful reform".

    4:40pm: Four helicopters reported to be circling Green/Martyrs' Square, where protesters have gathered in central Tripoli.

    4:35pm: The World Economic Forum has suspended Seif Gaddafi from its Forum of Young Global Leaders group.

    4:26pm: Medical sources report 18 South Korean workers were injured when gunmen attacked their company facility. Al Jazeera is seeking further information on the location of the shooting and industry - and current health - of the workers involved.

    4:24pm: The death toll from clashes in Tripoli - today - has reached 61, report our colleagues at Al Jazeera Arabic.

    4:21pm: Eyewitnesses report fire breaking out at a police station in Tripoli, while security forces loot banks and government organisations across the city

    4:17pm: Reuters reports the Libyan justice minister has resigned in support of the protests.

    2:17pm: New video posted by YouTube user libya2011free and relayed via the Arab Revolution blog shows how the uprising in Libya has grown in recent days; this one apparently shows large protesters of Misrata, just 160 km to the east of Tripoli, celebrating:
  • Olorun22
    Olorun22 Members Posts: 5,696 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Alkindus wrote: »
    LOL people of all backgrounds over there screaming for freedom for all and you come up with this intolerant plight? what does that say about you ?

    edit: and for the record, many people differ in perception/labeling of human diversity but best believe that arabs are africans and there are 'black' africans/arabs just like there are 'non-black' africans/arabs. If you want black africans to kick out the arabs than many people will start kicking out themselves lol.

    I said after anyway arabs arent africans they are invaders
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    En-Fuego22 wrote: »
    I said after anyway arabs arent africans they are invaders

    most of us overthere adapted arab culture(from sudan to morocco) 1000 years ago(just like u adapted english culture etc cause ur american etc), we are still africans.....anyway whatever makes you feel happy.

    it is not going well in libya right now...
  • Alkindus
    Alkindus Members Posts: 1,677 ✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Young-Ice wrote: »
    why do arabs and africans need to beef?

    its the white people at the top of the ladder ? ? up for us.

    The most pro african dictator of the last decades and leader of the african union is bombing his people at the moment bro...qadhafi use to support mandela like no other(when the us was still pro apartheid and considered mandela a teroorist etc) death is not good enough for him at the moment

    I get your point but this is not about nationality, these revolution are about equal freedom/oppurtinities for all......there are white/black/brown AFRICANS/ARABS getting massacred while I'm typing this

    I'm out
  • Ioniz3dSPIRITZ
    Ioniz3dSPIRITZ Members Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2011
    hopefully the revolution will spread to Sub Saharan Africa as well. It seems as if Black Africans lack drive and are content with being exploited my their western backed governments. They fight amongst each other over feeble issues. Hopefully they take note from the Arabs.

    On a side note Gaddafi is hiring black mercenaries to carry out atrocities against his own people. Not a good look for black Africa or Gaddafi...
  • 'nino'jacob
    'nino'jacob Members Posts: 154
    edited February 2011
    many north africans are not arab
  • allreasoned_out
    allreasoned_out Members Posts: 2,696 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
    Agreed. This is an historic moment!
  • KTULU IS BACK
    KTULU IS BACK Banned Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭
    edited February 2011
    ltown09 wrote: »
    Not to ? your high but who you thinks going to replace these leaders? Who ever has the most guns and religious rederict will takeover so i dont feel the same joy as i'm sitting in my ny loft

    Democracy has risen from the rubble of overthrown dictatorships in the past and it can happen again.
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited February 2011
    Young-Ice wrote: »
    why do arabs and africans need to beef?
    its the white people at the top of the ladder ? ? up for us.
    it might be worth noting the Arabs are white people