Study: Illegal immigrants paid $11.2B in taxes last year, unlike GE, which paid zero

shootemwon
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edited April 2011 in The Social Lounge
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/04/20/2011-04-20_undocumented_unlike_rich_pay_plenty_in_taxes.html
Albor Ruiz - Ny Local

Wednesday, April 20th 2011, 4:00 AM
A study estimates that undocumented immigrants paid more than $11 billion in taxes last year, far outpacing corporate behemoth GE, which paid nothing.

I bet most of you didn't know undocumented immigrants contributed more - much more - to the national treasury last year than General Electric. Surprised? Yet it's true.

While GE - which earned a whopping $14 billion last year - is reported to have paid nothing, nada, zero in taxes (GE denies it), the undocumented paid billions in state and local taxes in 2010.

No, it's not me talking; it's the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy (itepnet.org), a prestigious, nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization that works on federal, state and local tax policy issues.

Obviously the old saying, "Nothing is certain but death and taxes," is not to be believed anymore. Or rather, only half of it can be believed.

Because death, of course, remains as dreaded and inevitable as ever, but with taxes the story is different.

"The rich are different from you and me," the famous F. Scott Fitzgerald quote, is a much more accurate description of what's going on in the country.

To no one's surprise, taxes are still as certain for working people - and whatever is left of the middle class - as they ever were. But for, well, GE and other corporate giants, the only certainty is that many found ways to contribute as little to the country's coffers as possible.

At the same time, Republicans in Washington are involved in a mighty struggle to protect the tax breaks of the country's richest 2%, while happily proposing to cut the most basic social services to Americans who really need them.

Closer to home, Gov. Cuomo has announced the so-called millionaires tax will not be renewed once it expires in December, although since it was established in 2009 it has brought in as much as $5 billion annually.

There is no doubt, when it comes to taxes the rich are really different.

Ironically the vilified undocumented population, among the poorest and most vulnerable in the country, does its part when it comes to taxes.

They pay sales taxes and property taxes - even if they rent, ITEP said. At least half of them pay income taxes. And, I believe, if they were ever legalized, close to 100% would do the same. "Add this all up," ITEP said, "and it amounts to billions in revenue to state and local governments."

ITEP estimates that households that are headed by undocumented immigrants (which may include members who are U.S. citizens or legal immigrants) paid $11.2 billion in state and local taxes last year. That included $1.2 billion in personal income taxes, $1.6 billion in property taxes and $8.4 billion in sales taxes.

New York is fourth in the country in tax revenue - $662.4 million - from households headed by undocumented immigrants, after California, Texas and Florida.

"These figures should be kept in mind as politicians and commentators continue with the seemingly endless debate over what to do with unauthorized immigrants already living in the United States," ITEP wisely advises.

"[These] immigrants - and their family members - are adding value to the U.S. economy; not only as taxpayers, but as workers, consumers and entrepreneurs as well."

Enough with those people - and they are many - who think they are the only ones paying taxes, and who accuse the undocumented of being "leeches" who contribute nothing. How about redirecting their fury to the real leeches, those with enough means and political clout to exploit every single loophole in our tax laws not to pay their fair share?

Let the excuses and spinning begin. Undocumented immigrants are a popular scapegoat, but they do far more to pull their weight than General Electric.

Comments

  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Aliens Cost Los Angeles County $600 Million in 2010… Not Counting Education

    Well at least they paid for it with their taxes. Which means they contributed to the economy even more. If they paid 11 billion then it is more than likely they generated nearly 40 billion in revenue. And it is much more than that, because this is only including those who pay taxes.

    40plus billion minus10.6 billion = a lot of fake ? money. Maybe we should open the borders and let the Mexicans run the budget, since obviously they give more than they take.

    Thats more than I can say for certain Social Security/Medicare hogs who shall remain nameless.

    You idiots in California don't even realize if it wasn't for the Mexicans your economy would have collapse a long time ago and inflation would have went through the roof. You think houses in Cali are expensive now? LOL. SMH. How stupid can you be.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    Education

    Using the U.S. INS statistics on the number of undocumented immigrants residing in each state and the U.S. Department of Education's current expenditure per pupil by state, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, known for its anti-illegal immigrant stance and pro-white orientation [18], has estimated the cost of educating undocumented students as follows:[19]
    State Undocumented Students
    California $3,220,200,000
    Texas $1,645,400,000
    New York $1,306,300,000
    Illinois $834,000,000
    New Jersey $620,200,000
    For all 50 states $11,919,900,000


    White peoples ? is money. Everything revolves around money with them.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    I have no problem with undocumented immigrants, as long as they keep it 100.

    Where you originate is of no consequence to me. As long as you are civilized, im cool. Consider the irony of a violent usurper, like this European taking the land and murdering Natives in California, then destroying their economy in what little land you have left, then getting upset when you come back to the land that your ancestors had before he even knew the land existed. He then has the unmitigated gall to call you illegal, and there was nothing lawful, legal, or moral with how he obtained the land.

    The white man got more nerve than a toothache.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    How Illegal Immigration Hurts Black America
    With national unemployment hovering around 10 percent and black male unemployment at a staggering 17.6 percent, it's just not true that undocumented workers are doing the jobs that we won't do.


    Why would any black person in there right mind....defend illegal immigration???


    Notice how the devil tries to cause contention and division between Blacks and Mexicans.

    First of all, if they are undocumented the jobs they are not figured in employment figures. Those figures are based on jobs you have to be documented for. No.2- Blacks have always had high unemployment rates. You can not collect unemployment on a undocumented job. The only time we had full employment was slavery.

    Second, the reason why Unemployment rates are so high is because America has abandoned her historical economic base- Manufacturing. They farm out manufacturing jobs to other countries who will do it for cheap. Is this Illegal immigrants fault? The American corporations are not loyal to the American people. And the government lets them do it because they are bought and paid for. The American public is not going to work for 2 dollars a day. So rather than take less profits these greedy ? ship them overseas. These same ? will bring ? products back to the US for the unemployed American to buy.

    Quit scapegoating illegal immigrants. Your own people sold you down the river.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    Man you play that same old tune over and over and over and over and over...on and on and on and on and on.


    Well quit requesting the tune.

    Invest in something else, besides ? logic.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    This white boy says otherwise.....MONEY is the root of all evil........followed by bling that so many of you can't exist without.

    Money has no moral quality. It is just a piece of process wood.

    Most Blacks don't have bling. You have been watching too many rap videos.
  • JokerzWyld
    JokerzWyld Members Posts: 5,483 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    "Illegal" Immigrants work under the table to many industries, saving them billions in employer salary costs/expenses. The lower the expenses, the higher the profits, and the MORE they should pay in taxes. If Illegal immigration is such a problem to this country then law makers should go after the business more aggressively. They should tax those business trying to get over. It doesn't matter what you say about Immigration, the truth is that it's very difficult to evade the tax man. The gov't knows that businesses are hiring "illegals" but they still give those businesses tax breaks. Tax those businesses and you can afford to cover the costs for their healthcare/welfare.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    Just like rap music....me would never make a request IE to play that ? .....me doesn't need logic like yours when I've got to much downright common sense that tells me who the real fool is. *can you say stupid white boy?* hombre?

    You have no common sense. That is why you post arbitrary figures about immigrants.

    You don't have enough decency to realize these are human beings not figures. You did not ask them was it OK to take the land. You took it. Displaced them and even murdered some. You then destroy their economy and get upset when they come back to what was originally theirs.

    Your the fool because you can't comprehend the handwriting on the wall.
  • Bully_Pulpit
    Bully_Pulpit Members Posts: 5,501 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    And Step wrote: »
    White peoples ? is money. Everything revolves around money with them.


    Dont forget our culture is also diseased with this way of thinking too, in fact amongst us its probably worst because this "get money" culture has eaten us up from the inside out for three decades. Were still slaves if you ask me, and anybody who wants to get anywhere in this world will be a slave to this paper money which has no real tangible value other than what we place on it.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    heyslick wrote: »
    I ALWAYS find this funny and ironic....if so many within this site are actually black....why would you defend the Illegals??? Talk 'bout a calamity of contradictions.

    How Illegal Immigration Hurts Black America
    With national unemployment hovering around 10 percent and black male unemployment at a staggering 17.6 percent, it's just not true that undocumented workers are doing the jobs that we won't do.

    Your presence in the US is illegal. So you know....
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    Just ship all the white people back to Europe and we wouldn't have this problem.
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited April 2011
    shootemwon wrote: »
    Let the excuses and spinning begin. Undocumented immigrants are a popular scapegoat, but they do far more to pull their weight than General Electric.
    ultimately you know that this is not a real comparison.
    illegal immigrants would be paying MORE taxes if they were working legally in the US.
    GE not paying anything in tax (or, i guess, paying nothing above whatever they get credit for) is outrageous in a different way.
  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
    edited April 2011
    ...

    Agreed It's probably time for janklow to hang it up as the moderator of a hip hop forum if he can't stop promoting white supremacy. The comparison is completely legitimate and only his bigotry could convince him otherwise.
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    ...

    So are you questioning Janklow's sexuality? And what do you mean by airing ? out?
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited April 2011
    shootemwon wrote: »
    Agreed It's probably time for janklow to hang it up as the moderator of a hip hop forum if he can't stop promoting white supremacy. The comparison is completely legitimate and only his bigotry could convince him otherwise.
    see, this is one of those times where i have to point out that you cannot joke with the trolls
  • And Step
    And Step Members Posts: 3,726 ✭✭✭
    edited April 2011
    Do you all notice how when Janklow deletes a post between combatants he always like to insert a meat and donkey reference in there. Hmmmm?
  • janklow
    janklow Members, Moderators Posts: 8,613 Regulator
    edited April 2011
    And Step wrote: »
    Do you all notice how when Janklow deletes a post between combatants he always like to insert a meat and donkey reference in there. Hmmmm?
    just trying to get some posters to realize there's this forum called "AKA Donkey" and that some of their posts belong in there