Is Rick Ross the only rapper left that still TRUSTS the black community for support?

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  • ratchet bity
    ratchet bity Members Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭
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    Juvie is different though. Post a track where Juvie did anything remotely close to that Hard Rock ? I just posted. Plus I distinctively remember ya boy Curtis making some derogatory remarks about the BET awards one year. Curtis is a white mans slave now, and I can't help but feel comfort in knowing this munkey will never pollute urban radio again with his foolishness.

    he can and u know he can if he go back to grodt if the music hot nuthin else matters rick ross proves that. but bet needs to be talked about alot of people talk bout bet dead prez master p shid people in general talk bout bet. just like i was sayin bout 36 mafia nobody jammin them now if they go back to old ? its all good
  • Rhymesfinest
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    Kushington wrote: »
    This dude rhymesfinest is a 14 year old whiteboy from great britain tryin to tell us what black people do in america

    AND trying to say eminem is realer than rick ross because eminem grew up on welfare and didnt have his dad, he's borderline racist if the rest of yall cant tell.....

    this has to be among the dumbest ? ive ever encountered on the IC and alot of dumb ? goes on in this site


    Spin: From listening to your album, you get the impression that your childhood was pretty much a living hell. What was it really like?

    Eminem: I was born in Kansas City, and my dad left when I was five or six months old. Then when I was five we moved to a real bad part of Detroit. I was getting beat up a lot, so we moved back to K.C., then back to Detroit again when I was 11. My mother couldn't afford to raise me, but then she had my little brother, so when we moved back to Michigan, we were just staying wherever we could, with my grandmother or whatever family would put us up. I know my mother tried to do the best she could, but I was bounced around so much-it seemed like we moved every two or three months. I'd go to, like, six different schools in one year. We were on welfare, and my mom never ever worked. I'm not trying to give some sob story, like, "Oh, I've been broke all my life," but people who know me know it's true. There were times when friends had to buy me *censored*in' shoes! I was poor white trash, no glitter, no glamour, but I'm not ashamed of anything.

    Spin: These were mostly African-American neighborhoods where you grew up?

    Eminem: Yeah, near 8 Mile Road in Detroit, which separates the suburbs from the city. Almost all the blacks are on one side, and almost all the whites are on the other, but all the families nearby are low-income. We lived on the black side. Most of the time it was relatively cool, but I would get beat up sometimes when I'd walk around the neighborhood and kids didn't know me. One day I got jumped by, like, six dudes for no reason. I also got shot at, and ended up running out of my shoes, crying. I was 15 years old and I didn't know how to handle that ? .

    Spin: Were most of your friends black?

    Eminem: When you're a little kid, you don't see color, and the fact that my friends were black never crossed my mind. It never became an issue until I was a teenager and started trying to rap. Then I'd notice that a lot of mother*censored*ers always had my back, but somebody always had to say to them, "Why you have to stick up for the white boy?"

    Spin: When did you first get into hip-hop?

    Eminem: The first hip-hop ? I ever heard was that song "Reckless" from the Breakin' soundtrack; my cousin played me the tape when I was, like, nine. There was this mixed school I went to in fifth grade, one with lots of Asian and black kids and everybody was into break dancing. They always had the latest rap tapes-the Fat Boys, L.L. Cool J's Radio-and I thought it was the most incredible ? I'd ever heard.

    Spin: What'd you think when you first heard the Beastie Boys?

    Eminem: That's what really did it for me. I was like, "This ? is so dope!" That's when I decided I wanted to rap. I'd hang out on the corner where kids would be rhyming, and when I tried to get in there, I'd get dissed. A little color issue developed, and as I got old enough to hit the clubs, it got really bad. I wasn't that dope yet, but I knew I could rhyme, so I'd get on the open mics and ? , and a couple of times I was booed off the stage.

    Spin: Your single ("My Name Is") is getting played on both Modern Rock and Urban radio. Are you surprised at how quickly you're being accepted?

    Eminem: Thing is, I'm not really a commercial rapper. My whole market, my whole steez, is through the underground; if those hip-hop heads love it, I'll rise above. It's like, you hardly ever hear a Wu-Tang song on the radio, but they rose from the underground on word of mouth.

    Spin: Has being white really affected the way you see yourself as a rapper?

    Eminem: In the beginning, the majority of my shows were for all-black crowds, and people would always say, "You're dope for a white boy," and I'd take it as a compliment. Then, as I got older, I started to think, "What the *censored* does that mean?" Nobody asks to be born, nobody has a choice of what color they'll be, or whether they'll be fat, skinny, anything. I had to work up to a certain level before people would even look past my color; a lot of mother*censored*ers would just sit with their arms folded and be like, "All right, what is this?" But as time went on, I started to get respect. The best thing a mother*censored*er ever said about me was after an open mic in Detroit about five years ago. He was like, "I don't give a *censored* if he's green, I don't give a *censored* if he's orange, this mother*censored*er is dope!" Nobody has the right to tell me what kind of music to listen to or how to dress or how to act or how to talk; if people want to make jokes, well *censored* 'em. I lived this ? , you know what I'm sayin'? And if you hear an Eminem record, you're gonna know the minute that it comes on that this ain't no fluke.

    Spin: Did you ever come close to quitting?

    Eminem: About three or so years ago, not that long after my daughter Hailie Jade Scott was born. I was staying in this house on 7 Mile Road, and little kids used to walk down the street going, "Look at the white baby!" Everything was "white this, white that." We'd be sitting on our porch, and if you were real quiet, you'd hear, "Mumble, mumble, white, mumble, mumble, white." Then I caught some dude breaking into my house for, like, the fifth time, and I was like, "Yo, *censored* this! It's not worth it. I'm outta here." That day, I wanted to quit rap and get a house in the *censored*ing suburbs. I was arguing with my girl, like, "Can't you see they don't want us here?" I went through so many changes; I actually stopped writing for about five or six months and I was about to give everything up. I just couldn't, though. I'd keep going to the clubs and taking the abuse. But I'd come home and put a fist through the wall. If you listen to a Slim Shady record, you're going to hear all that frustration coming out.

    Spin: Could you see why some black people might be not be so enthusiastic about a white kid trying to be a rapper?

    Eminem: Yeah, I did see where the people dissing me were coming from. But, it's like, anything that happened in the past between black and white, I can't really speak on it, because I wasn't there. I don't feel like me being born the color I am makes me any less of a person.

    Spin: Did you ever wish you were black?

    Eminem: There was a while when I was feeling like, "Damn, if I'd just been born black, I would not have to go through all this ? ." But I'm not ignorant-I know how it must be when a black person goes to get a regular job in society. Music, in general, is supposed to be universal; people can listen to whatever they want and get something out of it. Personally, I just think rap music is the best thing out there, period. If you look at my deck in my car radio, you're always going to find a hip-hop tape; that's all I buy, that's all I live, that's all I listen to, that's all I love.

    Spin: How do you feel about other white rap fans?

    Eminem: Say there's a white kid who lives in a nice home, goes to an all-white school, and is pretty much having everything handed to him on a platter-for him to pick up a rap tape is incredible to me, because what that's saying is that he's living a fantasy life of rebellion. He wants to be hard; he wants to smack mother*censored*ers for no reason except that the world is *censored*ed-up; he doesn't know what to rebel against. Kids like that are just fascinated by the culture. They hear songs about people going through hard times and want to know what that feels like. But the same thing goes for a black person who lived in the suburbs and was catered to all his life: Tupac is a fantasy for him, too.

    Spin: Should suburban white kids, who don't have any firsthand experience of the way black people live, really be identifying so closely with hip-hop?

    Eminem: Well, whether a white kid goes through as much ? as I did, or didn't go through any trouble at all, if they love the music, who's to tell them what they should be listening to? Let's say I'm a white 16-year-old and I stand in front of the mirror and lip-synch every day like I'm Krayzie Bone-who's to say that because I'm a certain color I shouldn't be doing that? And if I've got a right to buy his music and make him rich, who's to say that I then don't have the right to rap myself?

    Spin: Do you think that hip-hop culture can open up their minds at all?

    Eminem: I don't know, man. Sometimes I feel like rap music is almost the key to stopping racism. If anything is at least going to lessen it, it's gonna be rap. I would love it if, even for one day, you could walk through a neighborhood and see an Asian guy sitting on his stoop, then you look across the street and see a black guy and a white guy sitting on their porches, and a Mexican dude walking by. If we could truly be multicultural, racism could be so past the point of anybody giving a *censored*; but I don't think you or me are going to see it in our lifetimes.

    Spin: What do you think will happen if your album blows up and becomes a huge hit?

    Eminem: I imagine I'll go through a lot of this same racial ? , but that'll just make my second album better-because I'll have even more to rap about




    This is an interview from Eminem talking about where he grew up, the enviroment he was raised in and the demographic of people he grew up with
  • P. Town
    P. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
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    JayZ dosent think too kindly of people who say "? the white man".

    Or we could change our avatars and hope that young black talent stay cornered in the "Hard out here for a ? " or sippin sizzurp cause THATS keeping it black. Death to the ? .

    A black man like yourself shouldn't have a problem with young black talent cornering themselves into the "Hard Out Here For a ? ", causing krakkers to hand over yet another batch of precious trophies to us.

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  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Those women are pretty fat them self lol hardly model material lol

    And yeah like i said he is better than Jay Z but just trying to point out that StillDreaming is wrong about his fan base not being majority white and the majority of his record consumers not being white teens

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  • Kushington
    Kushington Members Posts: 8,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @rhymesfinest

    I dont give a ? about eminems marketing team or his image

    youre spamming and trolling at this point
  • P. Town
    P. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    OK young man you finally got my attention.....

    I'm not saying Rick Ross should be the pinnacle of the black emcee. I'm just keeping it real, black ppl are the ones who ? with Ross the most. There are plenty of talented emcees that black folks like, its just not many in the MAINSTREAM who haven't sold out to the POP audience. Look at what Dre tried to do for an example of what I mean. Would you say the fans of the Chronic and 2001 were feeling that INAD ? ??

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    ptowndonte wrote: »
    Are other artist really catering to white people with their music? Or are alot of ? just so dumb and low that anything that don't sound ignorant isn't for their ears?
  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ptowndonte wrote: »
    A black man like yourself shouldn't have a problem with young black talent cornering themselves into the "Hard Out Here For a ? ", causing krakkers to hand over yet another batch of precious trophies to us.
    What is a trophy??

    I'd rather see a C.E.O. give "Young Black Talent" a job, how about hire some of these XXL freshman to persue their dreams with a record contract while mentoring them on the ends and outs of the music industry.

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    Good to see "Young Black Talent" living out their dreams...word to Wale, Stalley, Pill, & Meek.
  • P. Town
    P. Town Members Posts: 27,306 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    What is a trophy??

    I'd rather see a C.E.O. give "Young Black Talent" a job, how about hire some of these XXL freshman to persue their dreams with a record contract while mentoring them on the ends and outs of the music industry.

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    Good to see "Young Black Talent" living out their dreams...word to Wale, Stalley, Pill, & Meek.

    CTE or Nothing...

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  • ratchet bity
    ratchet bity Members Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭
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  • ratchet bity
    ratchet bity Members Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭
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  • StillDreaming
    StillDreaming Members Posts: 4,989 ✭✭✭
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    ptowndonte wrote: »
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    Dude you like Odd Future. Nuff said.
  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ptowndonte wrote: »
    CTE or Nothing...
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    Stallone is making a movie about Biggie and Tupac


    The only artist I see making a splash on CTE is the white-crip-rapper that goes by the name "Whyte".

    Here is a link to his Videos: WHYTE CTE.
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