The Matrix Trilogy
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ItzGravitation
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Who understood it????
I saw the second movie then the 3rd and then the first
all out of order i know but i watched them in order later
I still dont get it
also...what if that ? is for real
what if none of this is real and we all energy for robots?
What was your take of the movie because its almost as if there was a message to get from the trilogy
I saw the second movie then the 3rd and then the first
all out of order i know but i watched them in order later
I still dont get it
also...what if that ? is for real
what if none of this is real and we all energy for robots?
What was your take of the movie because its almost as if there was a message to get from the trilogy
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the first was the setup, the 2nd was the ? and the 3rd was the explanation or some ? like that...
The 2nd one had the GOAT action scenes tho... -
but what message did you get from the movie??
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ItzGravitation wrote: »but what message did you get from the movie??
ummm... i dunno really...
It's kinda like, "what if we're living in a fake world, would you wanna be pulled out into the "real world" type thing" ? i dunno man... -
ummm... i dunno really...
It's kinda like, "what if we're living in a fake world, would you wanna be pulled out into the "real world" type thing" ? i dunno man...
i kinda got that but also...
what if the world we live in is fake and this really is a dream
or what if dreams are real and reality is the dream -
ItzGravitation wrote: »i kinda got that but also...
what if the world we live in is fake and this really is a dream
or what if dreams are real and reality is the dream
lol, what u drankin on ? ? -
lol, what u drankin on ? ?
a ? aint been drankin ?
the movie just always confused me and i want other ppls idea on what it was really bout -
it is a lot of bible references from what my friend tells me
neo represents jesus is a theory
jewish religion maybe? there is no hell, but everyone is stuck on earth (the matrix) and people need to see the real world (heaven)
that is how a friend explained it to me
after the massive letdown that was matrix 2 i lost all interest, never even seen 3 -
a lot of the messages are biblical,like when Neo meets the architect that's supposed to represent ? ,because he talks about the number of "matrix's" he's made,meaning WORLDS. And how he had to make a flawed world or matrix because humans wouldn't accept perfection which is what ? gave in the begining with Adam and Eve. The whole trilogy is deep,they have a gang of websites dedicated to explaining the movies.
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^ not to mention his arms being stretched out when he died.
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i didnt see the Jesus reference
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just bougfht the trilogy on blu ray by accident smh i seen the first one before but i heard the 2nd was only ok and the 3rd one was horrible
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the movies were great but i'm trying to look past the fight scenes and figure out whats really going on
i think it had happened before and everyime the One failed but what was he failing at? -
The common thread in all the movies is self determination. In the 1st movie, neo has to himself decide to be the one; he can't simply be told this reality boy others. recall the scene with him and the oracle when she is looking at his palm. she says 'i could tell you what i think, but you already know what i'm going to say'. neo then says 'i'm not the one'. in other words, neo tells himself that he is not the one, and it is only through fighting that he takes up the mantle.
same thing with the 2nd movie. the architect basically tells neo the it is inevitable that he choose between trinity or saving the world. in the 2nd movie, he saves trinity, and in the 3rd movie, he defeats the architect's calculus by saving the world -
arbitration wrote: »The common thread in all the movies is self determination. In the 1st movie, neo has to himself decide to be the one; he can't simply be told this reality boy others. recall the scene with him and the oracle when she is looking at his palm. she says 'i could tell you what i think, but you already know what i'm going to say'. neo then says 'i'm not the one'. in other words, neo tells himself that he is not the one, and it is only through fighting that he takes up the mantle.
same thing with the 2nd movie. the architect basically tells neo the it is inevitable that he choose between trinity or saving the world. in the 2nd movie, he saves trinity, and in the 3rd movie, he defeats the architect's calculus by saving the world
thats what was basic and obvious
what was Smiths purpose???
why were the agents so powerful?
why was Neo the only one able to beat them?
if the matrix is all mental and requires focus any human should have had potential to be the one -
ItzGravitation wrote: »thats what was basic and obvious
what was Smiths purpose???
why were the agents so powerful?
why was Neo the only one able to beat them?
if the matrix is all mental and requires focus any human should have had potential to be the one
smith was a virus or the devil,and remember in the 3rd one when he kills neo,he also destroys himself. Good and Evil, can't have one without the other Neo died so did Smith,then the Matrix was recreated. -
smith was a virus or the devil,and remember in the 3rd one when he kills neo,he also destroys himself. Good and Evil, can't have one without the other Neo died so did Smith,then the Matrix was recreated.
what about the agents though
using Morpheus' logic anyone could enter the matrix and be like Superman or Goku or something
what made Neo special/differnt from anyone?
bigger brain??? -
All three of these movies were drawn out garbage.
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Black Author wins The Matrix Copyright Infringement Case
This little known story has met a just conclusion, as Sophia Stewart, African American author of The Matrix will finally receive her just due from the copyright infringement of her original work!!!
A six-year dispute has ended involving Sophia Stewart, the Wachowski Brothers, Joel Silver and Warner Brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the Central District of California, Judge Margaret Morrow presiding.
Stewart, a New Yorker who has resided in Salt Lake City for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, The Matrix I, II and III, as well as The Terminator and its sequels. She will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of Hollywood , as the gross receipts of both films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.
Stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the Matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, 'The Third Eye,' copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties Stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the Wachowski Brothers, requesting new sci-fi works..
According to court documentation, an FBI investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in an attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that 'credible witnesses employed at Warner Brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the Wachowski Brothers.' These witnesses claimed to have seen Stewart's original work and that it had been 'often used during preparation of the motion pictures.' The defendants tried, on several occasions, to have Stewart's case dismissed, without success.
Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from Matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the Wachowski Brothers. One on-line forum, entitled Matrix Explained has an entire section devoted to Stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story. -
Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to the fact that it has received little to no media coverage. Though the case was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at aghettotymz.com:
'The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner.... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, DreamWorks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow and many, many more! They are not going to report on themselves. They have been suppressing my case for years.'
Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the Greek goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, 'The black goddess is the mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix.'
Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice (Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case. 'This is all about the Benjamins,' said Stewart. 'It's not about money with me. It's about justice.'
Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to ? . 'I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why ? put them here. There's more to life than money,' said Stewart. 'My whole to the world is about ? and good and about choice, about spirituality over 'technocracy'.'
If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the 'technocracy' represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now, ironically, by their supposed creators.
Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory. June 13th 2004. Sophia Stewart's press release read: 'The Matrix & Terminator movie franchises have made world history and have ultimately changed the way people view movies and how Hollywood does business, yet the real truth about the creator and creation of these films continue to elude the masses because the hidden secret of the matter is that these films were created and written by a Black woman...a Black woman named Sophia Stewart. But Hollywood does not want you to know this fact simply because it would change history. Also it would encourage our Black children to realize a dream and that is...nothing is impossible for them to achieve!'
Greg Thomas, Editor -
Some fans, are unaware of the case or they question its legitimacy, due to the fact that it has received little to no media coverage. Though the case was not made public until October of 2003, Stewart has her own explanation, as quoted at aghettotymz.com:
'The reason you have not seen any of this in the media is because Warner Brothers parent company is AOL-Time Warner.... this GIANT owns 95 percent of the media... let me give you a clue as to what they own in the media business... New York Times papers/magazines, LA Times papers/magazines, People Magazine, CNN news, Extra, Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, HBO, New Line Cinema, DreamWorks, Newsweek, Village Roadshow and many, many more! They are not going to report on themselves. They have been suppressing my case for years.'
Fans who have taken Stewart's allegations seriously, have found eerie mythological parallels, which seem significant in a case that revolves around the highly metaphorical and symbolic Matrix series. Sophia, the Greek goddess of wisdom has been referenced many times in speculation about Stewart. In one book about the Goddess Sophia, it reads, 'The black goddess is the mistress of web creation spun in her divine matrix.'
Although there have been outside implications as to racial injustice (Stewart is African American), she does not feel that this is the case. 'This is all about the Benjamins,' said Stewart. 'It's not about money with me. It's about justice.'
Stewart's future plans involve a record label, entitled Popsilk Records, and a motion picture production company, All Eyez On Me, in reference to ? . 'I wrote The Third Eye to wake people up, to remind them why ? put them here. There's more to life than money,' said Stewart. 'My whole to the world is about ? and good and about choice, about spirituality over 'technocracy'.'
If Stewart represents spirituality, then she truly has prevailed over the 'technocracy' represented in both the Terminator and the Matrix, and now, ironically, by their supposed creators.
Stewart is currently having discussions with CBS about a possible exclusive story and has several media engagements in the near future to nationally publicize her victory. June 13th 2004. Sophia Stewart's press release read: 'The Matrix & Terminator movie franchises have made world history and have ultimately changed the way people view movies and how Hollywood does business, yet the real truth about the creator and creation of these films continue to elude the masses because the hidden secret of the matter is that these films were created and written by a Black woman...a Black woman named Sophia Stewart. But Hollywood does not want you to know this fact simply because it would change history. Also it would encourage our Black children to realize a dream and that is...nothing is impossible for them to achieve!'
Greg Thomas, Editor
Very intresting,a black woman is responsible for two of the biggest film franchises ever ???,What exactly do white people create themselves ???? -
The first Matrix film was good, because it dealt more with Neo's beginnings and the concept of the Matrix was new. The character development in of course Neo, Trinity and Morpheus was high. The story was at a peak. As a fan, I would've been fine with there just being one Matrix film. Reloaded was ok, the better of the sequels, but it deviated much from the original and failed in stretching concepts.
Revolutions really plummeted because it failed to expand the story in an artful way. It started to borrow cheap fight sequences from other mediums(animation, CGI), and left fans virtually confused by stories end about the role, fate and origin of the Architect(y'know, Colonel Sanders, who created the Matrix). -
the first was the setup, the 2nd was the ? and the 3rd was the explanation or some ? like that...
The 2nd one had the GOAT action scenes tho...
co-signing. 2 was the best one outta all 3 -
black author wins the matrix copyright infringement case
this little known story has met a just conclusion, as sophia stewart, african american author of the matrix will finally receive her just due from the copyright infringement of her original work!!!
A six-year dispute has ended involving sophia stewart, the wachowski brothers, joel silver and warner brothers. Stewart's allegations, involving copyright infringement and racketeering, were received and acknowledged by the central district of california, judge margaret morrow presiding.
Stewart, a new yorker who has resided in salt lake city for the past five years, will recover damages from the films, the matrix i, ii and iii, as well as the terminator and its sequels. she will soon receive one of the biggest payoffs in the history of hollywood , as the gross receipts of both films and their sequels total over 2.5 billion dollars.
stewart filed her case in 1999, after viewing the matrix, which she felt had been based on her manuscript, 'the third eye,' copyrighted in 1981. In the mid-eighties stewart had submitted her manuscript to an ad placed by the wachowski brothers, requesting new sci-fi works..
According to court documentation, an fbi investigation discovered that more than thirty minutes had been edited from the original film, in an attempt to avoid penalties for copyright infringement. The investigation also stated that 'credible witnesses employed at warner brothers came forward, claiming that the executives and lawyers had full knowledge that the work in question did not belong to the wachowski brothers.' these witnesses claimed to have seen stewart's original work and that it had been 'often used during preparation of the motion pictures.' the defendants tried, on several occasions, to have stewart's case dismissed, without success.
Stewart has confronted skepticism on all sides, much of which comes from matrix fans, who are strangely loyal to the wachowski brothers. One on-line forum, entitled matrix explained has an entire section devoted to stewart. Some who have researched her history and writings are open to her story.
cha-ching!!!! -
