John Lennon - "The woman is the ? of the world" interview

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stupot0607
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edited May 2011 in The Social Lounge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5lMxWWK218

John lennon gives an interview on his views on women in society. Also breaks down his opinion on the N Word

"If you define ? as someone whose life style is defined by others, who's opportunities are defined by others, whose role in society is defined by others, then good news! - you dont have to be black to be a ? in this society. most of the people in america are ? "

R.I.P John Lennon
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  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    Lennon was a self-righteous pretentious ? . Good thing someone shot him.
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  • Colin$mackabi$h
    Colin$mackabi$h Members Posts: 16,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    ***********applause**********************
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  • stupot0607
    stupot0607 Members Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭
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    didnt realise there was such hate for Lennon............
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  • Stack Money
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    Lennon was a overrated self-righteous pretentious ? . Good thing someone shot him.
    ..........
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  • Plutarch
    Plutarch Members Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    stupot0607 wrote: »
    didnt realise there was such hate for Lennon............

    I didnt either, but I'm glad because he is too overrated and he deserves most of it. He was also a bit pretentious imo. And I think he played favorites with his kids. He abandoned his first wife. He was extremely rude. And he treated Paul McCartney (also a ? in some regard) like ? and tried to steal his credit in songwriting.

    I'm not saying that he deserved to get shot. He was intelligent and funny. And there's some truth to that song's message but lets not go and victimize women as if they are helpless angels.
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  • stupot0607
    stupot0607 Members Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭
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    Plutarch wrote: »
    I didnt either, but I'm glad because he is too overrated and he deserves most of it. He was also a bit pretentious imo. And I think he played favorites with his kids. He abandoned his first wife. He was extremely rude. And he treated Paul McCartney (also a ? in some regard) like ? and tried to steal his credit in songwriting.

    I'm not saying that he deserved to get shot. He was intelligent and funny. And there's some truth to that song's message but lets not go and victimize women as if they are helpless angels.

    Im too young to have known what he is like (although i grew up with a couple of beatles albums) and i know he had problems with mccartney. john lennon got some great songs imo. and did stand for something (which is more than any pop star of today). i respect his musical legacy.

    i agree what you said about helpless angels haha. they can stand on their own 2.

    But i wouldnt disrespect a dead man.
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  • Plutarch
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    stupot0607 wrote: »
    Im too young to have known what he is like (although i grew up with a couple of beatles albums) and i know he had problems with mccartney. john lennon got some great songs imo. and did stand for something (which is more than any pop star of today). i respect his musical legacy.

    i agree what you said about helpless angels haha. they can stand on their own 2.

    But i wouldnt disrespect a dead man.

    Yeah, I'm too young to know what he really was like too. My criticisms are only based on things that I've heard, read, and seen, mostly from people who were close to him. I also once read that he beat up one of his friends pretty badly at a party because the friend had made an innocent ? joke about him. But then again, I think he was ? at the time so...

    But yeah, he did have some great songs. I don't particularly like hippies but I can be down with anyone who advocates peace and love. And I do respect his musical legacy.

    There's little to no excuse for straight disrespecting a dead (or living) man. But being real or offering valid criticisms is entirely different imo.
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  • Jesus Jackson
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    fortyacres&amule wrote: »
    this ? lennon was a simp how you gonna let an average chinese broad break up the band

    c mon son step you elanor rigby game up

    Yoko Ono = JAPANESE
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  • judahxulu
    judahxulu Members Posts: 3,988 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    SMH @ Lennon defining what a ? is when he never had to live like one, be called one or be treated as such. ? is more than a bit pretentious.
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  • bunz
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    Beatles are the best to do it.... john's solo career, not so much
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  • Bully_Pulpit
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    stupot0607 wrote: »

    "If you define ? as someone whose life style is defined by others, who's opportunities are defined by others, whose role in society is defined by others, then good news! - you dont have to be black to be a ? in this society. most of the people in america are ? "

    Thats a real ass statement.........Lennon got clapped up for speaking real ? , he knew too much after all him & his cronies were the brainchild of the tavistock institute ie. the crackers that are responsible for most of our culture in america.
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  • janklow
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    Last Of My Kind wrote: »
    Thats a real ass statement.........Lennon got clapped up for speaking real ? -
    no, he got shot for being a ? rock star with obsessive fans
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  • im_lux
    im_lux Members Posts: 2,419 ✭✭
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    lol ? hate lennon and half probably weren't even alive before he died. Interesting. Thats like a 13 year old saying he hates tupac...really ? ?
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  • dalyricalbandit
    dalyricalbandit Members, Moderators Posts: 67,918 Regulator
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    real ? ....
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  • bunz
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    janklow wrote: »
    no, he got shot for being a ? rock star with obsessive fans

    no, he actually got shot by chance.... a complete psychopath shot him to gain the approval of jodie foster... he saw taxi driver and became obsessed with her, than used that mentality to think he could get her..... he decided, what better way to get her attention than to ? a big celebrity??? he did research and found out that the two most accessible, BIG celebrities of the time were john lennon and elizabeth taylor.... john lennon happened to be in new york, so he chose lennon..... SIMPLE AS THAT.... no conspiracy, no nothing... the guy who killed him was not killed like oswald, he still rots in a private cell in the pych ward.... as a matter of a fact, his parole was denied very recently....everyone talking this dumb ? why he got killed but no one bothered to research it???? big surprise...
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  • shootemwon
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    bunz wrote: »
    no, he actually got shot by chance.... a complete psychopath shot him to gain the approval of jodie foster... he saw taxi driver and became obsessed with her, than used that mentality to think he could get her..... he decided, what better way to get her attention than to ? a big celebrity??? he did research and found out that the two most accessible, BIG celebrities of the time were john lennon and elizabeth taylor.... john lennon happened to be in new york, so he chose lennon..... SIMPLE AS THAT.... no conspiracy, no nothing... the guy who killed him was not killed like oswald, he still rots in a private cell in the pych ward.... as a matter of a fact, his parole was denied very recently....everyone talking this dumb ? why he got killed but no one bothered to research it???? big surprise...

    Actually you're completely wrong. You're referring to the guy who shot Ronald Reagan, you ? ? .
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  • shootemwon
    shootemwon Members Posts: 4,635 ✭✭
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    didn't the guy who shot lennon think he was john lennon?

    The guy who shot John Lennon was a hero. No reason to worry about why exactly he did the heroic deed.
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  • Disciplined InSight
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    The guy who shot John Lennon was a hero. No reason to worry about why exactly he did the heroic deed.

    LOL...Could you give a summary as to why you hate John Lennon so much?
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  • shootemwon
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    Young-Ice wrote: »
    ^ thats foolishness

    I wouldn't expect a Canadian to understand.
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  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That white ? John Lennon got his helmet smooshed by a nutjob....gots to be mo' careful.
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  • janklow
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    bunz wrote: »
    no, he actually got shot by chance.... a complete psychopath shot him to gain the approval of jodie foster... he saw taxi driver and became obsessed with her, than used that mentality to think he could get her..... he decided, what better way to get her attention than to ? a big celebrity??? he did research and found out that the two most accessible, BIG celebrities of the time were john lennon and elizabeth taylor.... john lennon happened to be in new york, so he chose lennon..... SIMPLE AS THAT....
    well, two things. first:
    shootemwon wrote: »
    Actually you're completely wrong. You're referring to the guy who shot Ronald Reagan, you ? ? .
    ...which would be John Hinckley, who stalked a couple of people (Carter, then Reagan), but meant to shoot the guy he did.

    second, Mark David Chapman went to New York specifically to ? Lennon. he was obsessed with Catcher in the Rye. which means you got completely worked up about a fictional version of the shooting that doesn't even work with EITHER actual shooting.
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  • Stack Money
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    bunz wrote: »
    no, he actually got shot by chance.... a complete psychopath shot him to gain the approval of jodie foster... he saw taxi driver and became obsessed with her, than used that mentality to think he could get her..... he decided, what better way to get her attention than to ? a big celebrity??? he did research and found out that the two most accessible, BIG celebrities of the time were john lennon and elizabeth taylor.... john lennon happened to be in new york, so he chose lennon..... SIMPLE AS THAT.... no conspiracy, no nothing... the guy who killed him was not killed like oswald, he still rots in a private cell in the pych ward.... as a matter of a fact, his parole was denied very recently....everyone talking this dumb ? why he got killed but no one bothered to research it???? big surprise...
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    shootemwon wrote: »
    The guy who shot John Lennon was a hero. No reason to worry about why exactly he did the heroic deed.
    2hd62kw.jpg..........
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  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    lol somebody explain this newfound lennon hate

    and catcher in the rye was a wack ass book...I can understand why it was hyped back in the day, but when I read it in 11th grade that ? was absolute butt cheeks to me
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  • nujerz84
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    The choice of words is terrible but I can see what he was trying to say....
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  • shootemwon
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    lol somebody explain this newfound lennon hate

    and catcher in the rye was a wack ass book...I can understand why it was hyped back in the day, but when I read it in 11th grade that ? was absolute butt cheeks to me

    Catcher in the Rye is a children's book. You should have been tackling some adult reading by 11th grade.

    And there's nothing new about people realizing Lennon is a ? . I guess you're just late.
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