Tha Doggfather vs The Blueprint

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  • ShadyTeam
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    edited March 2010
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    dalyricalbandit wrote: »
    At t/s so u dont think the blueprint is a classic? How about the slim shady lp?


    Yeah Slim Shady LP is a certified universally accepted classic and obviously critically acclaimed as far as Grammy Awards and reviews and just regarded highly by the industry

    Right now The Slim Shady LP is close to Diamond if not Diamond so that means it has sold 10 Million


    The Blueprint is a decent Album good at best but no way near a classic
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  • rip.dilla
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Far from a classic it's just a good Album

    I can't stand your threads... but I agree with this statement
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  • ShadyTeam
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    rip.dilla wrote: »
    I can't stand your threads... but I agree with this statement


    That's what most people worldwide think it's just a decent Album nothing more
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  • innercity99
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    That's what most people worldwide think it's just a decent Album nothing more

    I'm still waitin on my answer lls
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  • ShadyTeam
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    innercity99 wrote: »
    lls so wut are the emotional and heart wrenching songs that are on the dogg father since u always say thats wut jay lacks


    Which is the reason Tha Doggfather isn't a classic but just a decent Album

    And actually i said 90% of Jay Z's content is based on hustling ? , materalism and wealth


    When Jay Z makes Song's like Meet The Parents i can say that's a good Song



    Aside from content Jay Z has no Harmony/Melody in his Music and he lacks the emotion of a 2pac


    Lacks Soul in his Music for me
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  • raphaelmercury
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    That's what most people worldwide think it's just a decent Album nothing more


    I've actually never heard of Blueprint referred to anything less than a classic until this thread, I'm gonna say the worldwide opinion does not have Eminem Show as a classic as u so often claim... Blueprint is better than Doggfather to answer the question
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  • innercity99
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Which is the reason Tha Doggfather isn't a classic but just a decent Album

    And actually i said 90% of Jay Z's content is based on hustling ? , materalism and wealth


    When Jay Z makes Song's like Meet The Parents i can say that's a good Song



    Aside from content Jay Z has no Harmony/Melody in his Music and he lacks the emotion of a 2pac


    Lacks Soul in his Music for me

    Lls so if dog father don't have any tracks where snoop shows emotion wut u like 2 call it how is it better then the blueprint again??? Cause jay has song cry mama loves me and never change so if blueprint has atleast 3 songs and the dogg father has none then where do u get it bein better from?
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  • ItzGravitation
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    edited March 2010
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    why is this a thread
    Jay light years ahead of Snoop
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  • ShadyTeam
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    ItzGravitation wrote: »
    why is this a thread
    Jay light years ahead of Snoop

    Catalouge wise far from it


    ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reasonable Doubt


    Tha Doggfather>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    The Last Meal>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    Murder Was The Case>>>>>>>any Jay Z Song
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  • raphaelmercury
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Catalouge wise far from it


    ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reasonable Doubt


    Tha Doggfather>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    The Last Meal>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    Murder Was The Case>>>>>>>any Jay Z Song

    Just cause u say so?? Who has more #1 Albums? Snoop is just as commercial an artist as Jay yet Jay burns him on the charts everytime out
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  • ShadyTeam
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    raphaelmercury wrote: »
    Just cause u say so?? Who has more #1 Albums? Snoop is just as commercial an artist as Jay yet Jay burns him on the charts everytime out

    Like the IC always claims

    'Sales don't matter'
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  • YamoleySensei
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    D.D.S. wrote: »
    nobody really even remembers the doggfather.....
    co-sign! lol nobody even cared for the album when it got released
    i don't think BP is a classic, but it ? on "Doggfather" by far. smh @ this chick and her crazy ass "versus" threads.
    "Doggfather"? Really? LMAO!
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  • raphaelmercury
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Like the IC always claims

    'Sales don't matter'
    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Yeah Slim Shady LP is a certified universally accepted classic and obviously critically acclaimed as far as Grammy Awards and reviews and just regarded highly by the industry

    Right now The Slim Shady LP is close to Diamond if not Diamond so that means it has sold 10 Million


    The Blueprint is a decent Album good at best but no way near a classic

    That was ur post right?
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  • ShadyTeam
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    raphaelmercury wrote: »
    That was ur post right?

    Well when you sell Diamond you are special there is exceptions dude


    Beatles sold as high as anyone yet most can agree they made classic Music

    Same applies to Micheal Jackson



    So with Eminem he sold so much cos Musically is is so great he talks about things people relate to with Lyricism, he can Sing, he has so much emotion in his Music and is a complete Song Writer and he makes Chart topping Hit's
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  • 5th Letter
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Catalouge wise far from it


    ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reasonable Doubt


    Tha Doggfather>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    The Last Meal>>>>>>>>>>>any Jay Z Album aside from Reasonable Doubt


    Murder Was The Case>>>>>>>any Jay Z Song

    I feel like closing this thread just for this ? alone.
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  • ShadyTeam
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    Bob Marley, Beatles, Micheal Jackson all sold all got plaques and set sales records yet most people can say they are Musically legends


    Now Jay Z sold Multi Platinum with a lotta Album's


    But Chingy also sold Multi Platinum



    Not saying Jay Z is on Chingys level but no one can take away from the fact Jay Z has made mostly very poor or below average Album's


    With 1 classic Album in Reasonable Doubt outta 11 Album's full of very poor and average Album's



    No one can say Jay Z doesn't talk about hustling ? and his wealth majority wise as far as content



    Of course he uses other Rappers Lyrics too



    Took Biggie Small's Flow


    Took Young Chris Flow



    Lacks substance, emotion and soul in his Music
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  • raphaelmercury
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Bob Marley, Beatles, Micheal Jackson all sold all got plaques and set sales records yet most people can say they are Musically legends


    Now Jay Z sold Multi Platinum with a lotta Album's


    But Chingy also sold Multi Platinum



    Not saying Jay Z is on Chingys level but no one can take away from the fact Jay Z has made mostly very poor or below average Album's


    With 1 classic Album in Reasonable Doubt outta 11 Album's full of very poor and average Album's



    No one can say Jay Z doesn't talk about hustling ? and his wealth majority wise as far as content



    Of course he uses other Rappers Lyrics too



    Took Biggie Small's Flow


    Took Young Chris Flow



    Lacks substance, emotion and soul in his Music


    What the hell does Em rap about... to quote steve berman on mm lp "your rappin about homosexuals and vicodin" u wanna explain the first verse on "insane" off relapse? And is Chingy still around? I dont think so... u gotta go plat more than once to matter... R u really sayin Black Album and American Gangster were average at best?
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  • Dick Shitman
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    edited March 2010
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    gotta go with blueprint
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    jamacia wrote: »
    I feel like closing this thread just for this ? alone.

    lol................
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  • ShadyTeam
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    raphaelmercury wrote: »
    What the hell does Em rap about... to quote steve berman on mm lp "your rappin about homosexuals and vicodin" u wanna explain the first verse on "insane" off relapse? And is Chingy still around? I dont think so... u gotta go plat more than once to matter... R u really sayin Black Album and American Gangster were average at best?

    Eminem as far as content Rap's about

    Being a parent
    Family troubles
    Growing up in the hood/poverty
    Coming from a broken home with out a father
    Drug addiction
    Fame
    Politics
    Trouble with the law
    Relationship with his ex wife
    Love
    Child hood troubles


    Those are things people experienced or experience on a daily basis
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  • ShadyTeam
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    By the way every Chingy Album has reached Multi Platinum
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  • ShadyTeam
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    To simply explain the first Verse from Insane is simple


    It was made strictly for entertainment value
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  • ShadyTeam
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    Jay Z's cataluge

    Classic Album's =

    Reasonable Doubt


    Good Album's =

    The Blueprint
    The Black Album


    Average Album's =

    Volume 1
    American Gangster


    Very poor & straight up wack Album's (amongst the worst Album's ever made in history)

    Volume 2
    Volume 3
    The Dynasty
    The Blueprint 2
    Kingdome Come
    Blueprint 3
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  • lamontbdc
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    i was just about to argue for Snoop then realized this says doggfather not ?
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  • raphaelmercury
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    ShadyTeam wrote: »
    Eminem as far as content Rap's about

    Being a parent - A Ballad for a fallen Soldier
    Family troubles
    Growing up in the hood/poverty - This Cant Be Life and many others
    Coming from a broken home with out a father - Moment of Clarity, December 4th
    Drug addiction - Jays not a pillhead like Em
    Fame - Success, Hollywood, Hate
    Politics - Minority Report
    Trouble with the law - Guilty Until Proven Innocent
    Relationship with his ex wife - Lost One
    Love - Song Cry
    Child hood troubles - redundant since u already said growing up without dad/in the hood


    Those are things people experienced or experience on a daily basis

    Jay has covered all those topics and I already know Em produced Moment of Clarity and Jay used one of Ems lines in Success but dosent change the fact he has talked about everything em has save the homosexuals and vicodin
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