Mind over matter: The Beginning of Sex in RELATIONSHIPS....

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  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    I reread your original post. I understand now that you two were doing oral on one another. My experience is a little different, I gave him head on two separate occasions, with my top off. He still asked me to have sex, knowing my strong thoughts about it. We didnt have sex until we both got tested.

    According to the highlighted you need to reread it, again. That is not at all what I said. :/
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    Jonas.dini wrote: »
    I let the woman set her parameters, and I'll stay within those, but I'll be testing the barricades sometimes, and imo women like that as long as u don't get too pushy

    Right. Don't bite off more than she's making available for you to chew.....so to speak. Lol.
  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    Oh and guys can't get tested for HPV. So if a dude doesn't have a genital wart, he could still be a carrier.
    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    Because she wasn't frontin on this STD tip before while y'all were kissing. Yet Herpes can be passed on without any symptoms through drinking, smoking, kissing etc

    Edit: ^^^^ I just enlightened the minds of 80% of the IC
    I reread your original post. I understand now that you two were doing oral on one another. My experience is a little different, I gave him head on two separate occasions, with my top off. He still asked me to have sex, knowing my strong thoughts about it. We didnt have sex until we both got tested.

    And this is my point. After you've engaged in the exchange of genital fluids, its over for that "I just wanna make sure we're both safe ok" routine. Its over.
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    I'd be questioning if its really because she has a newfound focus on the prevelance of STDs. Or she's just singling me out and questioning my background. There has to be a reason beside, "I just wanna get tested for my safety ok."

    And even that is laughable. Because she wasn't frontin on this STD tip before while y'all were kissing. Yet Herpes can be passed on without any symptoms through drinking, smoking, kissing etc

    Edit: ^^^^ I just enlightened the minds of 80% of the IC

    then why would she mess with you if she was singling you out?

    wouldn't that be flawed logic for her to mess with you while thinking she had to be extra careful in dealing with you?


    Iono bruh, a chick volunteering to get tested is always a good thing IMO
  • Dupac
    Dupac Members, Writer Posts: 68,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    You cannot say it is just a front. Anything said can be just that, it all depends on the individual. I am absolutely adamant and firm in my stance on sex and initiating it. I can't give my all to you without making sure we've done this together. I know I am clean but I need to know the same of you and I feel that its a good step in our relationship, a mandatory one. Not just one that "sounds good."

    but that's YOU.. and as good and as admirable as that is about YOU most females who request testing, can be negotiated outta that ? with the right amount of charm and atmopshphere...
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    taeboo wrote: »
    I guess I don't see being caught up in the heat of the moment as totally disrepectful or him being selfish. Now If he tried again after that then I can see where the selfishness comes in.

    Ok let me say this again.
    You've expressed to him on more than one occasion that without being ready and going to get tested together there will be NO sex. Pretty self explanatory.
    After having told him more than once, he goes the extra mile this time and tries to have unprotected sex with you.

    Please tell me how that is not disrespectful to your wishes, wants and needs? How is he not being selfish? He's totally disrespected your feelings and took it upon himself to burden you with the aftermath by going against your will prematurely.
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I reread your original post. I understand now that you two were doing oral on one another. My experience is a little different, I gave him head on two separate occasions, with my top off. He still asked me to have sex, knowing my strong thoughts about it. We didnt have sex until we both got tested.

    what???

    so you mercked the man off twice, but you still had reservations about having sex?

    da ? ? :(
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    And this is my point. After you've engaged in the exchange of genital fluids, its over for that "I just wanna make sure we're both safe ok" routine. Its over.

    Lol.
    Sex and oral sex are one in the same to me. I never implied she gave him head, at all.

    I agree with Blak and you on this one.
    If I'm blessing you, sex is being had so RedColada makes no sense to me.
  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    then why would she mess with you if she was singling you out?

    wouldn't that be flawed logic for her to mess with you while thinking she had to be extra careful in dealing with you?


    Iono bruh, a chick volunteering to get tested is always a good thing IMO

    You must've missed my first post. I said getting tested is the easiest thing in the world. ? do it on ya way to Walmart if ya want. I pity the fool that looks at it as a burden.

    But your telling me, that if a girl you were talking to, who never had a past of getting tested, wanted you to get tested, you wouldn't look at her a little sideways like "why now?"
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    then why would she mess with you if she was singling you out?

    wouldn't that be flawed logic for her to mess with you while thinking she had to be extra careful in dealing with you?


    Iono bruh, a chick volunteering to get tested is always a good thing IMO

    The mentality of a MAN.
  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    Lol.
    Sex and oral sex are one in the same to me. I never implied she gave him head, at all.

    I agree with Blak and you on this one.
    If I'm blessing you, sex is being had so RedColada makes no sense to me.

    lol yeah thats what I figured. But I was just waiting for the folk to be like well it was oral and "not sex sex." ? fluids are ? fluids.

    ? , homegirl should've made going to the clinic a date. Her: "Hey sooooo instead of going to the movies, lets go to the clinic. My treat!"
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    You must've missed my first post. I said getting tested is the easiest thing in the world. ? do it on ya way to Walmart if ya want. I pity the fool that looks at it as a burden.

    But your telling me, that if a girl you were talking to, who never had a past of getting tested, wanted you to get tested, you wouldn't look at her a little sideways like "why now?"

    well of course you gon ask the question at 1st.............but then when you think about it, it's a win/win situation

    she stupid if she is only asking cause she is worried about something specific with you, yet SHE chose you



    and the fact she is willing and requesting to get tested is nothing but a benefit for you, cause most of these young slores ain't even thinking about being responsible like that

    people can easily have a change of heart as they mature






    now if she used to do ? and one-night stands on the regular before you, then it's on YOU if you still decide to mess with shorty LOL
  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    she stupid if she is only asking cause she is worried about something specific with you, yet SHE chose you

    This is definitely a side of it that I never thought about.....*writes point down*
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    lol yeah thats what I figured. But I was just waiting for the folk to be like well it was oral and "not sex sex." ? fluids are ? fluids.

    ? , homegirl should've made going to the clinic a date. Her: "Hey sooooo instead of going to the movies, lets go to the clinic. My treat!"

    Well to me, sex is sex, ? included. I think it's backwards for these girls out here thinking 1st comes head and the rest follows. Then they claim they've never had sex before, only given head. *sigh*

    :l
    I am not amused. lol.
    Why must it be all that? It's so simple. We make a time to go during business hours, a few needles here, a poke there, BAM. Wait a week or two. It's not that serious and yet it really is.
  • Ibex
    Ibex Members Posts: 7,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I find the attempts at sincerity in this thread to be hilarious.
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    well of course you gon ask the question at 1st.............but then when you think about it, it's a win/win situation

    she stupid if she is only asking cause she is worried about something specific with you, yet SHE chose you



    and the fact she is willing and requesting to get tested is nothing but a benefit for you, cause most of these young slores ain't even thinking about being responsible like that

    people can easily have a change of heart as they mature






    now if she used to do ? and one-night stands on the regular before you, then it's on YOU if you still decide to mess with shorty LOL

    I fail to see any downside to being asked to get tested. And why on earth would I become offended?
    On the other hand I have yet to have a man ask me to go get tested. I've only been the one to ask.
  • taeboo
    taeboo Members Posts: 4,669 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ok let me say this again.
    You've expressed to him on more than one occasion that without being ready and going to get tested together there will be NO sex. Pretty self explanatory.
    After having told him more than once, he goes the extra mile this time and tries to have unprotected sex with you.

    Please tell me how that is not disrespectful to your wishes, wants and needs? How is he not being selfish? He's totally disrespected your feelings and took it upon himself to burden you with the aftermath by going against your will prematurely.

    We're kissing and touching all over one another at time this happened, I would see it more as him having a weak moment then him being selfish.
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    taeboo wrote: »
    We're kissing and touching all over one another at time this happened, I would see it more as him having a weak moment then him being selfish.

    Selfish because that weakness clouded his better judgment of considering your feelings on that matter after the severity of it has been expressed numerous times.

    But yes, definitely weak, I agree.
  • MissLeading
    MissLeading Members Posts: 3,316 ✭✭
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    Ok let me say this again.
    You've expressed to him on more than one occasion that without being ready and going to get tested together there will be NO sex. Pretty self explanatory.
    After having told him more than once, he goes the extra mile this time and tries to have unprotected sex with you.

    Please tell me how that is not disrespectful to your wishes, wants and needs? How is he not being selfish? He's totally disrespected your feelings and took it upon himself to burden you with the aftermath by going against your will prematurely.

    That is disrespectful. I would feel like he wasn't being considerate of what I wanted and it would be a red flag.
    However, if it only happened once, I could look past it but if he kept trying to test my control and move farther then I'm prepared to go then the relationship would more then likely end.
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    That is disrespectful. I would feel like he wasn't being considerate of what I wanted and it would be a red flag.

    Precisely.
    I don't believe it can be justified by being "weak."
    The flesh is weak, that's simple. It's the basics of why that temptation becomes resisted is what would be of importance. Him even trying and without protection? Seriously though?
  • GTariq
    GTariq Members Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭✭
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    dusouljah wrote: »
    you initially get them with the hard ? ...and you keep them coming back with the slow stroke.....

    ok now imma read marley's post....


    I see you bruh...Congrats again!
  • tru_m.a.c
    tru_m.a.c Members Posts: 9,091 ✭✭✭✭
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    Why must it be all that? It's so simple. We make a time to go during business hours, a few needles here, a poke there, BAM. Wait a week or two. It's not that serious and yet it really is.

    So now I gotta miss my lunch break?
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    So now I gotta miss my lunch break?

    Our clean bill of health>>>a full belly one afternoon.

    Dinner will be ready at 6 sharp when you're off work. I promise.
    Smh!
  • SoutCity
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    I broke up with a ? because she didn't want to give me the ? . It was mine the very next week. #winning.
  • Conscious__Nkechi
    Conscious__Nkechi Members Posts: 6,110 ✭✭✭
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    mrsoutcity wrote: »
    I broke up with a ? because she didn't want to give me the ? . It was mine the very next week. #winning.

    Smh .