They sayin 80+ ppl died in the Norway shooting. Mostly kids.
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@My_nameaintearl wrote: »ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, MSNBC, CNN, and Al Jazeera English have all called it right-wing terrorism.
What do you want?
Fair dues. I may have been presumptous with the words "vast majority of the media" as I haven't been following the events on television. However the online articles I've read haven't described it as such. The most they've said were "the man faces charges related to terrorism" (CNN website) whereas others like the bbc link in the O/P have made no mention.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43854355/ns/world_news-europe/
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/uk-norway-idUKTRE76M1LJ20110723 -
smh i know an eye for an eye would leave the world blind but i dont see the point for this f***a to be living n the lawyer that represents this coward should be shot too.
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Lol pretty crazy didn't see that coming out of Norway
R.I.P to those people who lost there lifes tho -
Freemasonry? Geez...here we go
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How is it possible for one person to ? 80+ people. What the hell were the people doing why the others were getting shot?
You would have to be a expert marksmen to pull some ? like that off.
The thing is he wasnt on a watch list wasnt involved in any right-wing groups and didnt have a criminal past. For this ? to just emerge out of nowhere is strange. -
They were on an island, and he was dressed as a cop. So there weren't many places to run to, and people mistakenly ran to him thinking he was a cop.How is it possible for one person to ? 80+ people. What the hell were the people doing why the others were getting shot?
You would have to be a expert marksmen to pull some ? like that off.
The thing is he wasnt on a watch list wasnt involved in any right-wing groups and didnt have a criminal past. For this ? to just emerge out of nowhere is strange.
Overall, it was a pretty good plan.
Supposedly, this is his video: -
Damn, youtube deleted his video.fiat_money wrote: »They were on an island, and he was dressed as a cop. So there weren't many places to run to, and people mistakenly ran to him thinking he was a cop.
Overall, it was a pretty good plan.
Supposedly, this is his video:
I expected as much, so I'll upload a copy of it that I saved.
Here's his youtube account though:
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How is it possible for one person to ? 80+ people. What the hell were the people doing why the others were getting shot?
You would have to be a expert marksmen to pull some ? like that off.
The thing is he wasnt on a watch list wasnt involved in any right-wing groups and didnt have a criminal past. For this ? to just emerge out of nowhere is strange.
Full- Auto
and there are more crazy people that are unknown than known -
im late but jesus this is insane ? bless their families
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How is it possible for one person to ? 80+ people. What the hell were the people doing why the others were getting shot?
You would have to be a expert marksmen to pull some ? like that off.
The thing is he wasnt on a watch list wasnt involved in any right-wing groups and didnt have a criminal past. For this ? to just emerge out of nowhere is strange.
apparently he grouped them together.. so they came to him thinking he's a policeman that will guide them to safety unfortunately.
And like fiat_ said it's pretty smart.... R.I.P. -
fiat_money wrote: »Video too:
Man that's absolutely horrible. RIP -
fiat_money wrote: »They were on an island, and he was dressed as a cop. So there weren't many places to run to, and people mistakenly ran to him thinking he was a cop.
Overall, it was a pretty good plan.
Supposedly, this is his video:
True!!
Thats alot of damn people tho, imagine how many people that were shot if over 80 died? -
Video posted here:fiat_money wrote: »Damn, youtube deleted his video.
I expected as much, so I'll upload a copy of it that I saved.
Here's his youtube account though:
http://www.youtube.com/user/BerwickAndrew
BerwickAndrew - Knights Templar 2083.mp4 -
There wasn't no security or anything on the damn island tho??? It's a bunch of kids at a camp, they were that carefree in Norway. Wow.
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The Norwegian PM was supposed to give a speech on that island the next day. The camp was for young Labor Party members, the party of the current Norwegian PM. He was supposed to also go to his office the day of the bombing and massacre but instead decided to stay home... I wonder what he knew?
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Well they definitely can't blame the Radical Islamists for this one.
sad/hilarious fact: this hasn't stopped conservatives from trying
"This will not stop until a real war on islam begins… and we all know that it is muslim demons that are doing this."
"The Norwegians need to round up every Muslim in the country and send them packing, immediately. We need to do the same thing, but of course we never will."
"That’s one thing the appeasers just don’t get. Sure they might not blow you up while you’re slowing giving up your way of life to theirs, but any holdups in that process will poush the warfare from cultural to general violence very quickly. Basically, submit or die. It’s what the islamics say and it’s what anyone with any sense understands. The PC types have no sense."
http://wonkette.com/449905/u-s-wingnuts-ready-to-pretend-attack-norway-bombersshooters
Anders must've converted! Sheeeeiiit, these ? blame Al Qaeda for Oklahoma City -
fiat_money wrote: »They were on an island, and he was dressed as a cop.
A tiny island. Straight fish in a barrel.
Ya'll damn right this fits the textbook definition of terrorism, this wasn't some ordinary summer camp:See, the "camp" event is really more akin to a political retreat and training, it seems. It's an annual event of Norway's "Worker's Youth League," (in Norwegian, the Arbeidaranes Ungdomsfylking, or AUF), which is itself essentially the youth arm of the country's ruling Labour Party. And by "youth arm," I really mean something like a "farm team," to use a sports analogy.
It's 80 or more of the country's most politically engaged young people, self-selected from the ranks of a single political party. In a country of just 4.9 million, that's an enormous loss. Strictly by the numbers, the ratio to the population of the United States suggests it'd be like the wiping out of over 5,000 activists from, say, OFA or DFA. Or, I guess, every single person attending this year's Netroots Nation. Twice.
Taking out 80+ of the people committed enough to go to the AUF's Utoya summer retreat? That's like sending a Terminator back in time to take out a future Parliamentary leadership.
The crime was unspeakably heinous to begin with. And telling Americans that the killer targeted a "summer camp," it was no doubt imagined, would only make it sound worse.
It did. But it didn't really describe the magnitude of the loss for Norway. Nor did it convey the calculated sickness—and the very, very intensely political nature—of what the gunman undertook to do.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/23/997883/-Norway-attacker-was-a-political-Terminator -
Here's a copy of his alleged manifesto to go along with it:fiat_money wrote: »Video posted here:
BerwickAndrew - Knights Templar 2083.mp4
2083 - A European Declaration of Independence: By Andrew Berwick -
fiat_money wrote: »Here's a copy of his alleged manifesto to go along with it:
2083 - A European Declaration of Independence: By Andrew Berwick
Might want to mention that ? is 1500+ pages long... -
LOL. Yeh, but it's less than 8MB though, so it's not so bad.Swiffness! wrote: »Might want to mention that ? is 1500+ pages long... -
Lmao ofc you have a copy of it fiat...
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On page 780 post.
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This dude was crazy detailed
3.21 7 Deadly mistakes to be avoided
1. Use single or duo cell system. Several larger hierarchical networks/groups have been
uncovered and brought down in both Europe and the US due to crucial mistakes that
could easily have been avoided. Typical mistakes can be affiliations with individuals on
government watch-lists, if you add the people from your group on Facebook etc. If you
even as much as give indications that you are up to something to people you know, you
are incriminating them (and thus, indirectly putting pressure on them to turn you in). A
few years ago a large military nationalist network was brought down in the US
(consisting of around 100 people). There were clear evidence that the individuals were
linked (evidence from informants, phone logs etc) and they all received harsh sentences.
The most rational approach would have been to create 50-100 cells and cutting contact
with each other completely (12-24 months prior to the assaults). Instead this group
worked as one big cell which made them very vulnerable. One key informant could bring
down the whole network. Obviously, you are immune to informants/treason if you work
alone.
2. The second mistake is inexperience. Assuming the enemy is stupid, underestimates
the enemy's intelligence, thinks everything is easy and, as a result, leaves evidence that
can lead to his apprehension. Because of his inexperience, he may also overestimate the
resourcefulness of the enemy, believing them to be smarter than they really are. Allowing
himself to be fooled by this presumption, he becomes intimidated and remains insecure
and indecisive, paralyzed and lacking in audacity.
3. The third mistake is to select an overwhelmingly protected individual as a target for
assassination. 12 failed attempts on an extremely well protected individual could have
alternatively been 12 successful attacks on lesser targets executing more than 50
primary targets. Targets should be influential media personalities – multiculturalist
politicians, journalists/editors, cultural Marxist professors, Marxist writers/artists, NGO
leaders, globalist investors. Obviously, focus on individuals who does not have armed
body guards.
4. The fourth mistake is to boast about the actions you have undertaken or is about to
undertake and to broadcast them to the four winds. It is good to have a strong sense of
purpose but if you are afflicted by an excessive need to feed your ego, you are likely to
trust sensitive information to individuals who will sell you out. If you are desperate for
attention and for “love/appreciation/compliments” you are likely to take un-necessary
risks that will end in your incarceration. Do not involve your ego by boasting about your
success, operation or entering into a “competition” with other patriots. As a Justiciar
Knight, you are strictly prohibited from disclosing sensitive information to outsiders
(whether they may sympathize with your core principles or not). I estimate that
approximately 50% of all armed resistance fighters are are arrested and incarcerated
before they even get the chance to execute their mission due to their incompetence in
relation to their total lack of discretion.
5. The fifth mistake is to overestimate your partners strength/conviction and to
undertake actions for which you, as yet, lack sufficient equipment or competence.
6. The sixth mistake is rash action. You lose patience, suffer an attack of nerves, do not
wait for anything, and impetuously throw yourself into action, resulting in a failed
operation.
7. The seventh mistake is to fail to plan things THOROUGHLY, and to act spontaneously.
will be raised if you present these arguments.
3.26 Avoiding suspicion from relatives, neighbours and friends
Present a ”credible project/alibi” to your friends, co-workers and family. Announce to
your closest friends, co-workers and family that you are pursuing a ”project” that can at
least partly justify your ”new pattern of activities” (isolation/travel) while in the planning
phase.
F example, tell them that you have started to play World of Warcraft or any other online
MMO game and that you wish to focus on this for the next months/year. This ”new
project” can justify isolation and people will understand somewhat why you are not
answering your phone over long periods. Tell them that you are completely hooked on
the game (raiding dungeons etc). Emphasise to them that this is a dream you have had
since you were a kid. If they stress you, insist and ask them to respect your decision. You
will be amazed on how much you can do undetected while blaming this game. If your
planning requires you to travel, say that you are visiting one of your WoW friends, or
better yet, a girl from your ”guild” (who lives in another country). No further questions
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truth spitter wrote: »There wasn't no security or anything on the damn island tho??? It's a bunch of kids at a camp, they were that carefree in Norway. Wow.
There was some security. But he was dressed up as a cop with fake cop ID, and said he was there to check the security on the island after the bomb went off in Oslo, so they let him trough.
Also you have to keep in mind that norway is way different than the states. Norway is a peaceful, rich country where few people suffer and people generally get along. There is almost no gun voilence ,and as long as you dont take part in crime yourself you can pretty much walk safe where ever when ever. Norwegians take great pride in this openness, and thats why the security level is so low in most places. Call it naive, but its a beautiful thing. But this also makes Norway a soft target. -
Oh, and Flat Money, ? you! Show some respect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQOfH8Dj1mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P5oas271m0
