why do you ni99as still test diddy's greatness?

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  • J. Rob
    J. Rob Members Posts: 810 ✭✭✭
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    it's hard not to like Diddy...I mean, he's a shady ass ? (just ask The LOX, Black Rob, G. Dep, Shyne, and countless others) but he's too entertaining to hate.

    Also, I never really understood why people blame him for hip hop's downfall....what he was doing in the late 90s was original, it wasn't his fault that labels started forcing artists to bite his style.

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  • blackrain
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    J. Rob wrote: »
    it's hard not to like Diddy...I mean, he's a shady ass ? (just ask The LOX, Black Rob, G. Dep, Shyne, and countless others) but he's too entertaining to hate.

    Also, I never really understood why people blame him for hip hop's downfall....what he was doing in the late 90s was original, it wasn't his fault that labels started forcing artists to bite his style.

    nobody forced them ? to sign those terrible contracts...just like them ? had bad contracts Biggie managed to get a deal that actually made him and his family money...nobody told G. Dep's ? to sign a 6 album deal for $100,000...
  • Mr.AllenTemple
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    jamacia wrote: »
    That ? muslim now

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    WOW....this ? rockin the Sunni now....
  • fabionbackbitch
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    blackrain wrote: »
    cuz he's quick to remind people that if you serve no real purpose (ie making money) then you're worthless to him...that mentality really only bothers lazy folks though lol

    THANK YOU! Only broke ? hate Puff. I can't hate on a black man in the white man's world gettin' the white man's money. ? owned half of a vodka brand before puff? NOPE! Armadale? ? , what the ? is a armadale? Puff sells a lifestyle, that Sinatra ciroc commercial was brilliant. These hatin' ass ? are AAALLL broke. I respect hustle and success, ? all that other ? these ? talkin'.
  • J. Rob
    J. Rob Members Posts: 810 ✭✭✭
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    blackrain wrote: »
    nobody forced them ? to sign those terrible contracts...just like them ? had bad contracts Biggie managed to get a deal that actually made him and his family money...nobody told G. Dep's ? to sign a 6 album deal for $100,000...

    doesn't make it any less shady, but yeah.....

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  • fabionbackbitch
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    blackrain wrote: »
    nobody forced them ? to sign those terrible contracts...just like them ? had bad contracts Biggie managed to get a deal that actually made him and his family money...nobody told G. Dep's ? to sign a 6 album deal for $100,000...

    in the words of Jadakiss..."Puff is a paperwork gangsta"

    I don't understand these ? . NONE of them talk about Jimmy Iovine, or Lyor, or David Geffen. All these white people been juxin' ? for YEARS, no one says ? . A black man does it and it's a problem? ? outta here fam.
  • blackrain
    blackrain Members, Moderators Posts: 27,269 Regulator
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    J. Rob wrote: »
    doesn't make it any less shady, but yeah.....

    and let's be even more realistic..ain't like the artists complaining about the money were ever successful anyway...truth be told the only real successful acts on Bad Boy, Biggie, Mase, 112, have never complained about Puffy holding money away from them...it's only been the artists who flopped that say Puffy was robbing them...even after all the ? him and Mase went through you never once heard Mase say "puffy is holding out money from me"...hell he let the ? retire at the peak of his career which cost him even more money
  • Mr.AllenTemple
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    blackrain wrote: »
    nobody forced them ? to sign those terrible contracts...just like them ? had bad contracts Biggie managed to get a deal that actually made him and his family money...nobody told G. Dep's ? to sign a 6 album deal for $100,000...

    ? actin like Puffy held a gun to they head and made them sign on the dotted line like how Luchabrasi did the band leader in the Godfather.....
  • Maalik
    Maalik Members Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I respect the ? outta Diddy. Would I work for him??? Yes. Would I walk to Brooklyn to get his cheesecake? ? No. I would suck that ? dry (no ? ) for every piece of information that ? has on Business. Learn every ? thing I can from that grimey bastard, steal all the contacts & clients I can, gracefully & respectfully bow out, start my own ? & put that ? outta business or become a respected competitior. This is a dog eat dog business. I dont owe you ? . DIDDY DONT OWE YALL ? . The only way he could ? any of them ? careers up is if they let him. ? that ? ? up first. Either you a Wolf or you a Sheep. Diddy aint no less grimey than the other Fortune 500 CEOs, you think the CEO at Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs & Sidley Austin get down any differently???? LMAO @ yall ? .
  • mr.getwitcha
    mr.getwitcha Members Posts: 2,459 ✭✭
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    jamacia wrote: »
    Diddy's gangster is underrated too.

    Yeah, it really is. All jokes aside, i remember when the Lox was on the radio talking all that ? about throwing a fridge on puff or whatever, that ? Puffy said "Yall ? wouldnt bust a grape in a food fight" Staright ? on them ? and they didnt do ? . He even called them out about how since 50 said Puff own them, now all of a sudden they wanna get tough.



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  • fabionbackbitch
    fabionbackbitch Members Posts: 720
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    Yeah, it really is. All jokes aside, i remember when the Lox was on the radio talking all that ? about throwing a fridge on puff or whatever, that ? Puffy said "Yall ? wouldnt bust a grape in a food fight" Staright ? on them ? and they didnt do ? . He even called them out about how since 50 said Puff own them, now all of a sudden they wanna get tough.



    Getwitcha

    that ? 's a G!!!!

    "y'all know where my office at man."

    "? don't like ugly Puff."
  • blackrain
    blackrain Members, Moderators Posts: 27,269 Regulator
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    Yeah, it really is. All jokes aside, i remember when the Lox was on the radio talking all that ? about throwing a fridge on puff or whatever, that ? Puffy said "Yall ? wouldnt bust a grape in a food fight" Staright ? on them ? and they didnt do ? . He even called them out about how since 50 said Puff own them, now all of a sudden they wanna get tough.



    Getwitcha

    funniest ? about that interview was Puffy telling them "Ya'll talking all that gangsta ? and I'm tryna sit down work this out like business men. You know where my office is come down here and we can get everything worked out." Made the Lox look like fools making all those threats like Puffy was supposed to be scared into giving them what they want.
  • fabionbackbitch
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    blackrain wrote: »
    funniest ? about that interview was Puffy telling them "Ya'll talking all that gangsta ? and I'm tryna sit down work this out like business men. You know where my office is come down here and we can get everything worked out." Made the Lox look like fools making all those threats like Puffy was supposed to be scared into giving them what they want.

    "It's ten years later and you still got half our publishin'!"

    You ? ? , you signed the contract.
  • blackrain
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    "It's ten years later and you still got half our publishin'!"

    You ? ? , you signed the contract.

    if nothing else that interview just highlighted how little the LOX still knew about the business side of the music game...
  • tru_m.a.c
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    blackrain wrote: »
    funniest ? about that interview was Puffy telling them "Ya'll talking all that gangsta ? and I'm tryna sit down work this out like business men. You know where my office is come down here and we can get everything worked out." Made the Lox look like fools making all those threats like Puffy was supposed to be scared into giving them what they want.

    lmao yoooooo that interview was way too real. Real talk the G in puff really goes over ppl's head. Like they think just cause he dances a lot, has "corny" making the band shows and doesn't rap about killing ppl he can be taken lightly

    somebody up that lox pic with them pushing a fridge off the roof. The IC was wild for that one.
  • blackrain
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    lmao yoooooo that interview was way too real. Real talk the G in puff really goes over ppl's head. Like they think just cause he dances a lot, has "corny" making the band shows and doesn't rap about killing ppl he can be taken lightly

    somebody up that lox pic with them pushing a fridge off the roof. The IC was wild for that one.

    I remember the day that interview happened...? had so many jokes and pictures in The Reason...then when The Lox actually agreed to meet with Puffy it showed that at the end of it all, them ? knew it wasn't Puff's fault they were in the situation they were it...
  • fabionbackbitch
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    tru_m.a.c wrote: »
    lmao yoooooo that interview was way too real. Real talk the G in puff really goes over ppl's head. Like they think just cause he dances a lot, has "corny" making the band shows and doesn't rap about killing ppl he can be taken lightly

    somebody up that lox pic with them pushing a fridge off the roof. The IC was wild for that one.

    Puff the only ? that did it BY himself and still doin' it for the longest

    This ? started as an intern in 1991. Andre Harrell didn't even know what a ? ' intern was initially. These ? ain't even listenin' to themselves talk. Puff is a ? ' inspiration. that ? 's a hustla's hustla. You ever notice how they call puff and hov sheisty, but they the two most accomplished in the game. If you not a ? , you won't get ? by Puff. It's that simple. SMH at a 6 album 100K deal. You ? ' ? ?
  • J-GUTTA
    J-GUTTA Members Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    To BR and Fabion at then end of the day artist don't get what they deserve they get what the lawyer negotiated for.
  • redhandedbandit
    redhandedbandit Members Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭
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    puff tho more on the pop side i didnt really like his music you can't deny the mans work ethic
  • blackrain
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    J-GUTTA wrote: »
    To BR and Fabion at then end of the day artist don't get what they deserve they get what the lawyer negotiated for.

    like I said the only ? on Bad Boy that complained about money were the artists who never sold alot to begin with...aint like the LOX was selling millions...hell I think their first album only went gold...and wit the money being spent on artists during the mid 90's going gold wasnt enough to make millions
  • earth two superman
    earth two superman Members Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    the lox are idiots to begin with. i respect diddy.
  • redhandedbandit
    redhandedbandit Members Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭
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    puffs gangster> suge knights gangster
  • fabionbackbitch
    fabionbackbitch Members Posts: 720
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    puffs gangster> suge knights gangster

    puff the only ? to sign a group, release 'em but keep half they publishing, release them fully, then have them sign with him again.

    ? gotta be doing something right. Either that or The Lox just stupid.
  • earth two superman
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    puff the only ? to sign a group, release 'em but keep half they publishing, release them fully, then have them sign with him again.

    ? gotta be doing something right. Either that or The Lox just stupid.

    its both, but the lox are stupid as hell. jadakiss is honestly one of the dumbest ? in music. ? had the audacity to ask why the democratic party aint rallyin with him. ? LOOK AT YOU.
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    dude looks like he breathes stupid.
  • J-GUTTA
    J-GUTTA Members Posts: 9,107 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    puff the only ? to sign a group, release 'em but keep half they publishing, release them fully, then have them sign with him again.

    ? gotta be doing something right. Either that or The Lox just stupid.



    Ya but you know what and I'll defend this till the day I die Money Power Respect>>>We are the Streets. Wild out was a horrible 1st single. I personally can't wait for that new LOX to drop on Bad boy


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