Playlist: Nominate 10 tracks for The Greatest Underground Hip Hop Tracks of All Time

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  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
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    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    If we do a JMT song it has to be Saviorself or Uncommon Valor. best JMT songs EVER

    Uncommon Valour!!! Has to be…

    Right, that's me for the day, The Essence Playlist of the Month is up :tu
  • renagade410.
    renagade410. Members Posts: 647 ✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
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    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    If we do a JMT song it has to be Saviorself or Uncommon Valor. best JMT songs EVER

    cant agree with that mainly because even tho its a jmt track the show was stolen by r.a

    the way im choosing these tracks is by first thinking of the 10 best underground cds and then the best song from that cd....uncommon valor is good but for me when i think jmt i think violent by design thats when vinny paz was at his best stoupe was in his prime and jus allah was jus allah

    dope track none the less but its moreso a r.a track than jmt
  • Lou Cypher
    Lou Cypher Members Posts: 52,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited August 2011
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    Yeah R.A. Did rip that track apart. Whats some good R.A. Songs? i dont know alot of solo songs that i love from R.A.
  • ninjasenses
    ninjasenses Members Posts: 157
    edited September 2011
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    deltron3030 - deltron3030
    slug - ? 's bathroom floor
    cage - agent orange
    aesoprock - boombox
    immortal technique - dance with the devil
    canibus - poet laureate II
  • stupot0607
    stupot0607 Members Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    RuffDraft wrote: »
    Haha at least he's on something… I can't say it rates that highly in my list, but he's definitely dope!! Saw him live as well and loved the show… he's gifted for sure. But I listened to The Master and When I be on the Mic was just a lot better than the other tracks, I did buy it a long time ago though and haven't played it in years…. what you think of it?

    I Thought it was a Below average but had a couple of gems. i very rarely play it aswell........

    Waiting on the world to end (one of the greatest hip hop songs ever, probably my favorite Ra song) >>>> When i be on the mic >>>>>>>>>> the whole album haha
    cant agree with that mainly because even tho its a jmt track the show was stolen by r.a

    the way im choosing these tracks is by first thinking of the 10 best underground cds and then the best song from that cd....uncommon valor is good but for me when i think jmt i think violent by design thats when vinny paz was at his best stoupe was in his prime and jus allah was jus allah

    dope track none the less but its moreso a r.a track than jmt

    Co Signing this ^^^^^ Uncommon Valor was great because of R.A... Not Vinnie. when i listen to it im not listening for vinnie paz im just waiting for R.A everytime.

    & JMT Violent by design is a stone wall classic….. so many great songs and definitely JMT in their prime, ive got a couple of their albums which I never listen to really.
    deltron3030 - deltron3030
    slug - ? 's bathroom floor
    cage - agent orange
    aesoprock - boombox
    immortal technique - dance with the devil
    canibus - poet laureate II

    Great choice, that song is so deep. one of my most played songs on itunes.
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    cant agree with that mainly because even tho its a jmt track the show was stolen by r.a

    the way im choosing these tracks is by first thinking of the 10 best underground cds and then the best song from that cd....uncommon valor is good but for me when i think jmt i think violent by design thats when vinny paz was at his best stoupe was in his prime and jus allah was jus allah

    dope track none the less but its moreso a r.a track than jmt

    That's a good way of choosing the tracks, I might try it for when I do my selection this evening… Violent By Design, I don't know if you remember, but NagChampa had a classic Essence thread with Violent By Design being the greatest underground release of all time; I don't agree, but it's definitely a great album.

    Even so though, that track is one of the best songs on a JMT album :unno
    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    Yeah R.A. Did rip that track apart. Whats some good R.A. Songs? i dont know alot of solo songs that i love from R.A.

    There's already been a thread about RA, check it here: R A The Rugged Man.
    deltron3030 - deltron3030
    slug - ? 's bathroom floor
    cage - agent orange
    aesoprock - boombox
    immortal technique - dance with the devil
    canibus - poet laureate II

    I knew Del would top your list!!! Definitely one of the greatest ever…

    I like Boombox as well!! :tu
    stupot0607 wrote: »
    I Thought it was a Below average but had a couple of gems. i very rarely play it aswell........

    Waiting on the world to end (one of the greatest hip hop songs ever, probably my favorite Ra song) >>>> When i be on the mic >>>>>>>>>> the whole album haha

    Premier!!! Good track, I always preferred When I Be on the Mic though…
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited September 2011
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    Fashawn - When She Calls
    Joe Budden - All Of Me
    Blackstar - Brown Skinned Lady
    Glue - Early Morning Silence
    Skyzoo - Maintain
    Masta Ace - Revelations
    Masta Ace - Beautiful
    Kendrick Lamar - HiiPower
    J Dilla & Common - So Far To Go
    Cunninlynguists - Lynguistics

    I'm quite young so I don't really know much older underground hip hop beyond a few exceptions.
  • Lou Cypher
    Lou Cypher Members Posts: 52,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    thats a good list. one of my fave dilla songs on there! and Beautiful by masta ace is just... beautiful.
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    Fashawn - When She Calls
    Joe Budden - All Of Me
    Blackstar - Brown Skinned Lady
    Glue - Early Morning Silence
    Skyzoo - Maintain
    Masta Ace - Revelations
    Masta Ace - Beautiful
    Kendrick Lamar - HiiPower
    J Dilla & Common - So Far To Go
    Cunninlynguists - Lynguistics

    I'm quite young so I don't really know much older underground hip hop beyond a few exceptions.

    Nice list, Lynguistics is on The Essence Playlist of the Month as well as the one you contributed by Glue lol.

    Good to see the ALHS tracks as well as Dilla's… High Power is your favourite Lamar track?
    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    thats a good list. one of my fave dilla songs on there! and Beautiful by masta ace is just... beautiful.

    Great description Lou haha
  • ty the great
    ty the great Members Posts: 162
    edited September 2011
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    Jedi Mind Tricks - Uncommon Valor
    Zion I - Birds Eye View
    Atmosphere - Yesterday
    Brother Ali - Rain Water
    Little Brother - The Listening
    CunninLynguists - Enemies With Benefits
    DJ Shadow - Building Steam With a Grain of Salt
    Masta Ace - Beautiful
    Edo G - Wishing
    Sage Francis - The Best of Times
  • Lou Cypher
    Lou Cypher Members Posts: 52,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    Brother Ali - UNCLE SAM ? DAMN
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
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    Jedi Mind Tricks - Uncommon Valor
    Zion I - Birds Eye View
    Atmosphere - Yesterday
    Brother Ali - Rain Water

    Little Brother - The Listening
    CunninLynguists - Enemies With Benefits
    DJ Shadow - Building Steam With a Grain of Salt
    Masta Ace - Beautiful
    Edo G - Wishing

    Sage Francis - The Best of Times

    I've got a feeling Uncommon Valor may top this list as the greatest Independent Hip Hop track of all time... be a strange one if it is being that RA doesn't really have any other songs that would qualify in this category...

    Enemies with Benefits is your favourite CunninLynguists track?! It wouldn't make my top 10, but it's definitely one of the best from Oneirology!

    Great list though, the bolded ones would all be potentials for mine... but I'm probably going to take at least another week contemplating mine lol.
  • waterproof
    waterproof Members Posts: 9,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    Come on yall, yall know what it is......... yall gots to include Souls of Mischief 93'til
    ............................
  • Lou Cypher
    Lou Cypher Members Posts: 52,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    ^ of course! i was also thinking Corner Story by Del. one of my Fave del solo's

    Mastermind by Deltron.
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    waterproof wrote: »
    Come on yall, yall know what it is......... yall gots to include Souls of Mischief 93'til
    ............................

    Haha great record. Do we class Jive Records as independent though given that they were a major player where commercial hip hop was concerned?! I personally feel as though Jive records was a Major label.
  • bankrupt baller
    bankrupt baller Members Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    RuffDraft wrote: »
    Daylight, epic choice!! :tu Props on your choices.



    Props, stay on topic though… if you want to just discuss one Budden song make a thread in The Reason, he's signed to a Major.

    lol.....not as a solo artist and not when he made the song i posted.....joe budden>>>>>>>>
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    lol.....not as a solo artist and not when he made the song i posted.....joe budden>>>>>>>>

    Fair comment on his label situation at the time...

    But you overlooked the thread premise. There isn't a good place to 'drop a song', if it goes against what the thread is about. You could have dropped it in the What You Bumpin' Right Now thread though :tu

    This thread is for a list of 10 songs, not an I want to scream to the high heavens about how Joey is the greatest (even if he was).

    Please stay on topic if you contribute in the future.
  • justforkicks
    justforkicks Members Posts: 23
    edited September 2011
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    These have always been favorites of mine.

    The Grouch - Your not the one
    Zion I ft. The Grouch - Silly Puddy
    Eligh - Chronic
    Aesop Rock (Living Legends) - Devils knockin at my door
    Binary Star Ft. J.U.I.C.E, Senim Silla, Texture, Elzhi, O-Type, Lacks - The KGB
    Souls of Mischeif - 93 til infiity
    The Cuf - F*** this Job
    Arsonist - Lunchroom Takeout
    Masta Ace - The I.N.C. Ride
    Pharcyde - Passin' Me By
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    These have always been favorites of mine.

    The Grouch - Your not the one
    Zion I ft. The Grouch - Silly Puddy
    Eligh - Chronic
    Aesop Rock (Living Legends) - Devils knockin at my door
    Binary Star Ft. J.U.I.C.E, Senim Silla, Texture, Elzhi, O-Type, Lacks - The KGB
    Souls of Mischeif - 93 til infiity
    The Cuf - F*** this Job
    Arsonist - Lunchroom Takeout
    Masta Ace - The I.N.C. Ride
    Pharcyde - Passin' Me By

    @ bolded, Great track; definitely worthy of the list!!! Good to see you posting as I'm assuming with your sign up date that you're an 'I.C. vet'.
  • stupot0607
    stupot0607 Members Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    Lou Cypher wrote: »
    Brother Ali - UNCLE SAM ? DAMN

    Yes!!! Great song!! How could i forget this Gem??
  • stevenjx712
    stevenjx712 Members Posts: 37
    edited September 2011
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    Jedi Mind Tricks – Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story
    Army of The Pharoahs - Seven
    Murs - The Pain
    Cunninlynguists - The Gates
    Brother Ali - Picket Fence
    Atmosphere - ? You Lucy
    Snowgoons feat. Viro The Virus - Starlight
    Fashawn - Why
    Immortal Technique - You Never Know
    Masta Ace - Acknowledge
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
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    Jedi Mind Tricks – Uncommon Valor: A Vietnam Story
    Army of The Pharoahs - Seven
    Murs - The Pain
    Cunninlynguists - The Gates
    Brother Ali - Picket Fence
    Atmosphere - ? You Lucy
    Snowgoons feat. Viro The Virus - Starlight
    Fashawn - Why
    Immortal Technique - You Never Know
    Masta Ace - Acknowledge

    Nice list, really nice list; good to see Fashawn making the cut!!!
  • MastaAceTheGOAT
    MastaAceTheGOAT Members Posts: 724
    edited September 2011
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    RuffDraft wrote: »
    Nice list, Lynguistics is on The Essence Playlist of the Month as well as the one you contributed by Glue lol.

    Good to see the ALHS tracks as well as Dilla's… High Power is your favourite Lamar track?



    Great description Lou haha


    Yeah it is, it's just perfect from his change in flow, the beat and the concepts. Although, I will say I haven't heard enough of his material beyond Section.80 to make a legitimate judgement. What's yours?
  • RuffDraft
    RuffDraft Members, Writer Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭✭
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    Yeah it is, it's just perfect from his change in flow, the beat and the concepts. Although, I will say I haven't heard enough of his material beyond Section.80 to make a legitimate judgement. What's yours?

    It's a nice track definitely. I do love it but I think Keisha's song and others are better from Section 80. Even Tammy's song... But every song could be a favourite from Section 80, amazing release.

    I'd probably have to go with Let Me Be Me... From his self titled EP. It was the song that made me love Kendrick Lamar.. And start my own promotion movement for him lol. Great artist though... He deserves all the props he's getting and you should go back and check his catalog or check out the stickied artist of the month!!
  • Lincoln
    Lincoln Members Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 2011
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    MF DOOM - Doomsday
    Ryu - I Did it to Myself
    Nujabes/Shing02 - Luv Sic Pt. 3
    Celph Titled - Primo's Four Course Meal
    Blue Scholars - Sagaba
    Handsome Boy Modeling School ft. Encore - Waterworld
    Bronze Nazareth - Bronzeman
    Five Deez - Decapitated Orgasms
    Moongod Allah - Fifty Days of Sword Practice
    Common Market - Escaping Arkham