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the unrest in syria was started by CIA backed terrorists, its not a revolution or people power, its just the system trying to cause trouble to a goverment that a threat to israeli imperialism in the region, syria backs the hezbollah movement in lebanon and hamas in palestine
its funny how the western mainstream media ain't talking about the war crimes and atrocity's thats happening in bahrain and yemen
from www.infowars.com but the original article is from rt news a mainstream independent satelite news channel
CIA, MI6 and Mossad: Together against Syria
RT
November 21, 2011
The West is doing its best to destabilize the situation in Syria, author and journalist Webster Tarpley told RT. According to him, civilians have to deal with death squads and blind terrorism, which is typical of the CIA.
*“What average Syrians of all ethnic groups say about this is that they are being shot at by snipers. People complained that there are terrorist snipers who are shooting at civilians, blind terrorism simply for the purpose of destabilizing the country. I would not call this civil war – it is a very misleading term. What you are dealing with here are death squads, you are dealing with terror commandos; this is a typical CIA method. In this case it’s a joint production of CIA, MI6, Mossad, it’s got money coming from Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates and Qatar,” he explained.
He added that Syrian society is the most tolerant society in the Middle East, the one place where all kinds of people live together in remarkable harmony, Muslims and Christians of all kinds.
“This is a model of a peaceful coexistence of various ethnic groups. The US policy right now is to smash the Middle East according to ethnic lines,” he added.
Assad’s rule is increasingly being called illegitimate. But the US and Europe do not seem concerned that getting rid of the Syrian president could cause even more violence, as was seen in Egypt, believes Tarpley.
“After Libya becoming a bloodbath with 150.000 dead and now with Egypt showing what it was all along – there was no revolution there, it was a complete failure and now people are beginning to understand that. Still, Mrs Clinton and Ms Rice (sic) continue to push this bankrupt model of the colour revolution, backed up by terrorist troops – people from Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a growing movement inside the Islamic community, which says ‘We want reconciliation, we want law and order, and we want legality’,” he said.
its funny how the western mainstream media ain't talking about the war crimes and atrocity's thats happening in bahrain and yemen
from www.infowars.com but the original article is from rt news a mainstream independent satelite news channel
CIA, MI6 and Mossad: Together against Syria
RT
November 21, 2011
The West is doing its best to destabilize the situation in Syria, author and journalist Webster Tarpley told RT. According to him, civilians have to deal with death squads and blind terrorism, which is typical of the CIA.
*“What average Syrians of all ethnic groups say about this is that they are being shot at by snipers. People complained that there are terrorist snipers who are shooting at civilians, blind terrorism simply for the purpose of destabilizing the country. I would not call this civil war – it is a very misleading term. What you are dealing with here are death squads, you are dealing with terror commandos; this is a typical CIA method. In this case it’s a joint production of CIA, MI6, Mossad, it’s got money coming from Saudi Arabia, The United Arab Emirates and Qatar,” he explained.
He added that Syrian society is the most tolerant society in the Middle East, the one place where all kinds of people live together in remarkable harmony, Muslims and Christians of all kinds.
“This is a model of a peaceful coexistence of various ethnic groups. The US policy right now is to smash the Middle East according to ethnic lines,” he added.
Assad’s rule is increasingly being called illegitimate. But the US and Europe do not seem concerned that getting rid of the Syrian president could cause even more violence, as was seen in Egypt, believes Tarpley.
“After Libya becoming a bloodbath with 150.000 dead and now with Egypt showing what it was all along – there was no revolution there, it was a complete failure and now people are beginning to understand that. Still, Mrs Clinton and Ms Rice (sic) continue to push this bankrupt model of the colour revolution, backed up by terrorist troops – people from Al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a growing movement inside the Islamic community, which says ‘We want reconciliation, we want law and order, and we want legality’,” he said.
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Russia today is a joke, it's propoganda.
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hefty-vulturestatus wrote: »Russia today is a joke, it's propoganda.
rt is an independent news organization that tells it from the man on the streets point of view, i suppose cnn, bbc, sky news and fox are proper news organization, that don't have any western goverment bias or any of there agenda's in any of there stories
you won't see this on cnn or bbc & sky news over here over these sides of things neither
click on the link to see the pictures because i don't know how to copy and paste the pictures from articles from http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=27926
Millions Gather in Syria's Squares to Express Condemnation of Arab League Decisions and Reject Foreign Interference
Photographic Evidence: People against US-NATO R2P
Global Research, November 29, 2011
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Millions Gather in Syria's Squares to Express Condemnation of Arab League Decisions and Reject Foreign Interference
Nov 28, 2011
Provinces (SANA) – Millions of Syrians flooded the squares of Syrian cities and towns on Monday, gathering in Damascus, Aleppo, Hasaka, Deri Ezzor, Raqqa, Sweida and Tartous to proclaim their rejection of the Arab League's conspiring decisions against Syria, pledging to protect Syria at any cost.
Huge masses flocked to Saba Bahrat Square in Damascus and Saadallah al-Jabri Square in Aleppo in condemnation of the Arab League decisions and in rejection of the foreign interference.
The participants in the rallies stressed adherence to the national unity and independent national decision-making.
Similar rallies took place in Saadallah al-Jaberi square in Aleppo city, al-Barid Square in Tartous city, al-Qutayfeh in Damascus Countryside, Shahba in Sweida, the President Square in Raqqa, and al-Mesherfeh town in Homs countryside, with the participants voicing their condemnation of the Arab League decisions against the Syrian people and their rejection of the foreign interference.
The participants pointed out that Syrians became aware of the conspiracy since its beginning, realizing that this conspiracy targeted the entire Arab nation as well as Syria and was disguised as calls for reform and democracy, prompting Syrians to wonder how can those who claim to advocate democracy in Syria make such claims while they themselves subverted human rights to benefit themselves and keep their people out of the scene, all while the Syrian people are deciding their fate in plain view of the whole world.
The participants said that everyone must chose Syria today since it is currently facing the most violent conspiracy in its history, a conspiracy involving Arab and international sides, affirming that Syrians are prepared to wage this battle and emerge victorious.
They also noted that the Syrians' rallying around their leadership and their creativity in finding solutions and launching national initiatives protected Syria's independent decision-making and confused the conspirators.
In Damascus city, Saba Bahrat Square was packed with crowds who chanted national slogans, calling for national unity and stressing their rejection of the Arab League decisions and foreign interference in the internal affairs of Syria.
Participants in the march vowed loyalty to the homeland and promised to continue their struggle and step forward to protect Syria, appreciating the sacrifices of the Syrian Arab Army.
In Aleppo city, huge crowds of people flocked to Saad Allah al-Jaberi Square to say that Syria will remain strong, waving the Syrian flag in an expression of loyalty to the homeland.
Participants in the march denounced the Arab League decisions against Syria, stressing that Syria will remain immune to imperialist countries and Zionism which have been endeavoring for several years to destroy the resistance of Syria.
In Tartous city, crowds flocked to the Square of Tartous Municipality to express their condemnation of the Arab League decisions against Syria and their resolve to defend their country and the nationalist role of Syria.
Participants affirmed that the Syrian people can overcome the conspiracy, by virtue of the people's awareness and rallying around the Syrian leadership and commitment to the national unity, calling on all Syrian people to work hand in hand to protect Syria and preserve its sovereignty.
In Der Ezzor city, a mass rally was held at the Saba Bahrat Square to express commitment to destroy all conspiracies hatched against Syria.
Participants in the rally said the Arab League decisions address the Syrian citizens directly because the Syrian people defend the Syrian stances which support resistance and reject foreign dictations.
In al-Hasaka city, huge crowds flocked to the President Square to reject foreign interference in Syria's internal affairs and the Arab League decisions against Syria.
Participants said that the history of the Arab world is nowadays chronicling the bravest epic of struggle between the countries which support the Arab rights and resistance with Syria on top, and the blood traders and neo-colonialists who claim to be Arabs.
In Homs city, thousands of people flocked to the main square of al-Mishrfeh town to convey a message to the world expressing the unity of the Syrian people adding that no one can make them bow to foreign dictations or abandon the national and patriotic stances.
Participants condemned the Arab League decisions against Syria, pointing out that the Syrian people stand by the Syrian leadership and that "Syria will remain the homeland of steadfastness at whose borders all conspiracies are destroyed".
In the city of al-Shahbaa in Sweida province, grandchildren of Sultan Basha al-Atrash waved the Syrian flag and photos of President Bashar al-Assad stressing that the "homeland whose sons are willing to sacrifice their lives to protect its sovereignty will remain immune to all conspiracies".
Al-Shahbaa people stressed their rejection of the economic sanctions imposed recently by the Arab League on Syria considering them as "void by all standards".
In al-Quneitera city, thousands of people gathered at Khan Arnabeh Square to express their condemnation of the Arab League decisions and their rejection of foreign interference.
Al-Quneitera people held the Arab League responsible for each and every drop of blood spilled on the Syrian soil as a result of media misleading and foreign conspiracies.
They also stressed their rallying around the leadership of Syria and their support to the reform process commenced by President al-Assad.
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rt is an independent news organization that tells it from the man on the streets point of view, i suppose cnn, bbc, sky news and fox are proper news organization, that don't have any western goverment bias or any of there agenda's in any of there stories
so let me see if i understand your argument:
hefty-vulturestatus: "Russia Today = propaganda"
LONDON!: "it's not because CNN and FOX and the BBC are propaganda!"
so how exactly does any propaganda contained in the latter news organizations mean the former contains none? -
so let me see if i understand your argument:
hefty-vulturestatus: "Russia Today = propaganda"
LONDON!: "it's not because CNN and FOX and the BBC are propaganda!"
so how exactly does any propaganda contained in the latter news organizations mean the former contains none?
the bbc, sky news and cnn sing to the tune of the US and UK goverments hymn sheets and they don't stray from that, if the UK or the US goverment says pig can fly then they will report that, if Iran or Syria or Venezuela says that then they will investigate properly and do proper independent journalism and say those goverments are chatting ? , pure ? , you get what i'm saying, thats the diffrence, rt shows the other side of that and is independent of the russian goverment and won't do the system cheerleading the western mainstream media does, its as simple as that
the system has beef wit assad and the syrian goverment because assad and the syrian goverment don't dance to the american & goverment's and the rest of the system's tune, the system dosen't like that, like i said before, they don't like the fact syria backs hamas & hezbollah which is a threat to isreali imperialism in the region, the system dosen't like the fact they can't control the syrian goverment which is independent, if this was about the syrian goverment being a dictartorship, then why ain't the system and the mainstream western media getting there knickers in a twist about regimes and worser goverments like the saudi's and bahrain and yemeni and mubarak(the US goverment was giving and is still giving billions of free aid in the amount of billions of dollars in military aid annually to egypt every year) before he got run out of town by people power, you see what i'm saying, assad is actually loved and respected by the majority of syrians, working classes and the middle class, thats why the system is doing economic sanctions on syria now that will affect the syrian middle class like there doing in iran and gaza to get revenge against them for supporting there popular goverments which the system dosen't like, they don't give two ? about the minority's and the working class in there own country's, so how are they gonna give two ? about syrian civillians a billion miles away, it dosen't even make any sense, they think heads were born yesterday all sumthin i swear down, you get me. Assad shows love to all sections of society as being a allawite minority himself, he has kept sectarianism out of syria, the coup attempter's that are CIA backed and instigated along wit nato are terrorists just like the regime in libya(the ntc is infested wit al queda fruitcakes and CIA puppets)
the arab league is dominated by system puppet dictator regime goverments that sing to the tune of nato, there sanctions are bogus and comical at best and evil at worst, if this was an authentic reviolution wit no outside influence and genuine, then it wouldn't be a problem wit me
here's another artical from www.globalresearch.ca
SYRIA: The Orwellian "Responsibility to Protect" (R2P) used to Justify "Regime Change" and All Out War
by Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya
Global Research, November 30, 2011
Strategic Culture Foundation - 2011-11-29
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The Arab League coupled with a proxy group called the Syrian National Council (SNC) that is the creation of a tactical alliance between the Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, Washington, NATO, Israel, and the Persian Gulf’s petro-monarchs is being used within the framework of false pretences of humanitarianism for a plan to oust President Bashar Al-Assad from power and install a new client government in Damascus.
The Arab League: A Chamber of Treachery and Cowardice
The Arab League is a dysfunctional and largely ceremonial body of hyperbole that has been utterly stripped of any value it once had when it was originally founded in 1945. It has been hijacked and serves Washington and its NATO allies instead of any genuinely Arab interests. The League’s ultimatums against Syria are fully in tune with the regime change plans against Damascus.
Libya was suspended from the Arab League before NATO started its war. The League was used to give cover to the Pentagon and NATO for their war and regime change agenda against Qaddafi. It is Saudi Arabia and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) that have helped hijack the League. The GCC is comprised of the Persian Gulf petro-sheikhdoms of the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, and Saudi Arabia. None of these countries are model states, let alone democracies. Their foreign-installed leaders have betrayed the Palestinians, helped attack Iraq, support Israel against Lebanon, demolished Libya, and now they conspire against Syria and its regional allies.
In a blatant act of hypocrisy, the unelected despots of these petro-sheikhdoms have announced that Qaddafi’s regime was “illegitimate” and now are making similar statements about Syria. This is while the Saudi and Bahraini regimes themselves ? and terrorize their own unarmed citizens who are protesting in the streets of Saudi Arabia and Bahrain for fair treatment, basic rights, equality, and freedom.
The GCC has forced the Arab League to support the de-legitimization of the Libyan government and the war against Libya in the form of sanctions and no-fly zones. Now it wants to impose political and economic sanctions on Syria and to cause the country to internally implode, while it tries to fashion an Arab League mandated no-fly zone as a counter-movie to the Chinese and Russian vetoes at the U.N. Security Council. The U.S., Britain, France, and Turkey are also preparing to help it in this regard.
The Syrian National Coordination Committee versus the Syrian National Council
The mainstream media, such as the BBC and Al Jazeera, in the NATO countries and Arab monarchies are willing to print, publish, or broadcast anything that will degrade Syria and support regime change through sectarian, unprofessional, false, and inflammatory reporting. They are not to be trusted in regards to the facts on the ground in Syria. The mainstream media in the NATO countries and the GCC continuously play with words, provide no verified reports, and cite recently created foreign-based groups as their sources. Amongst these group is the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which ironically endorses Saudi rulers while it claims to espouse democratic ideals. -
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Protests demanding reforms and democratization have taken place in Syria. Other protests against corruption and linked subsidy price changes also have taken place, but not on the scale and magnitude that NATO and the GCC portray. Initially there was a forceful crackdown that coincided with attacks by armed groups that had taken advantage of the protests. The problem was compounded by unidentified attackers who attacked both Syrian civilians and Syrian security forces that ignited instability. As tensions built, this all became further complicated by internal fighting amongst the elite families that form the oligarchies in Damascus. The Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood has also tried to capitalize and armed wings of it, with help from foreigners, have tried to stroke the flames of violence to topple Bashar Al-Assad.
The situation in Syria is complicated, because there are several competing trends of opposition. This includes the opposition forces in Syria, which range from government lackeys to individuals that genuinely want reform. Aside from the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, what most of the internal opposition has in common is that they are against violence, any form of foreign intervention, and want reform instead of regime change. It is this opposition that forms the Syrian National Coordination Committee (SNCC), which critics calls a regime appendage.
Members of this domestic opposition have been beaten and killed in Syria. This includes Mashaal Tammo, a Syrian Kurd opposition figure. Although there are over a dozen unrecognized Kurdish political parties in Syria, his murder according to Kurdish leaders was an act aimed at fomenting violence in the Kurdish areas of Syria. Several Kurdish leaders immediately denounced the murder as the work of those who want to frame the Syrian government and unleash chaos in Syria between Kurds and Arabs. Other internal victims include the cartoonist Ali Farzat who was kidnapped by unidentified gunmen and brutally beaten in late-August 2011. There is a chance that undisciplined members of the Syrian internal forces could have been behind the attack, but the attacks could have been designed to frame Damascus.
Outside of Syria, Washington and its allies have done everything to co-opt the SNCC or silence the voices of the SNCC and other internal opposition forces that are against foreign intervention and the use of violence. When a delegation of the SNCC arrived in Cairo to hold talks with the Arab League, it was immediately attacked and beaten by a mixed crowd of SNC supporters that were waiting for them. The Arab League too has opted to recognize the SNC, which is not popular internally in Syria.
In reality, the SNC is controlled by the Syrian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood and several Salafist groups. Some of the people listed as SNC members were also not consulted before they were added and play no real role in the organization. In this regard, the Muslim Brotherhood is being promoted as the alternative to Bashar Al-Assad by Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the GCC.
The SNC, which was formed in Istanbul a month after another Syrian transitional council was formed in Ankara, cannot be trusted. They have blatantly lied countless times about their internal support and events in Syria. Nor do they provide any form of a viable alternative to the Syrian regime. Their roster is filled with shady individuals with close ties to foreign governments and organizations that serve the interests of the United States and the European Union. According to Ayoob Kara, a Likud parliamentarian from the Israeli Knesset, the Syrian opposition was in contact with Tel Aviv to help oust the Syrian regime. Kara also made it clear in a speech to the Knesset that Israel must intervene in Syria as a means of fighting Iran and its allies.
Begging for Intervention: Parallels between the Transitional Councils in Libya and Syria
In Libya the Transitional Council was used to supplant the Jamahiriya in Tripoli. Now the SNC is being used is illicitly try to takeover Syria. The SNC will transform Syria into a docile client state divided and managed by Turkey, Israel, Jordan, and the Saudi-led GCC states on behalf of Washington. The recognition of the SNC by the Arab League and Turkey is part of this objective.
Before NATO’s war in North Africa, the Transitional Council in Libya was begging for military intervention by the U.S., Britain, France, and NATO. Likewise, the SNC and the individuals who form it have been begging for NATO military intervention against Syria. The SNC has even posted the coordinates of defensive infrastructure in Syria that they want bombed by the Pentagon and NATO. Members of this opposition have also posted maps of Syrian Air Force bases and Russian naval infrastructure to help NATO identify military targets. What is very telling about the orientation of the SNC is that these facilities have very little to do with internal politics or crowd control and a lot to do with Syrian national defence.
It is in this context that a failed attack by the so-called “Free Syrian Army” was launched on the intelligence wing of the Syrian Air Force in Damascus. This was not an act of protest, but a badly organized act of war that was intended to weaken Syria’s defensive aerial capabilities in case it was attacked. The Free Syrian Army in reality is a front organization that is controlled and manned by the GCC, Turkey, Jordan, and NATO with mercenaries and groups that can loosely be called “Al-Qaeda.” This should come as no surprise in an era when the U.S. Congressional Armed Services Committee has been told by Admiral McRaven that covert operations with U.S. Special Forces involvement are vital to the Pentagon’s modern wars.
The Orwellian Responsibility to Protect (R2P): A Tool of Trans-Atlantic Wars
The Syrian Arab Republic now faces the “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) as a threat. R2P was not used in Libya, but it was mentioned a lot. The frequent mentioning of the R2P was brinkmanship for future wars.
R2P is being prepped to be wielded as a weapon by Washington and NATO. It is a neo-imperialist device under the cover of sheep’s skin that appropriates the language of humanitarianism. Where is R2P against Israel in Palestine or when it attacked Lebanon in 2006? Where is R2P against the foreign-imposed dictators of Bahrain and Saudi Arabia? Where is R2P when it comes to the brutal Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara? Where is R2P in the Democratic Republic of Congo? These are all places where R2P will never even come to be mentioned, because it is against the interests of Washington and its allies.
It is a diplomatic concept constructed in Canada by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade (DFAIT) through the International Commission on Intervention and State Sovereignty (ICISS) in 2000. The concept essentially posits that a country’s independence is not a right and can be taken away by the international community when the need arises. The international community under the R2P paradigm has the responsibility to intervene in any independent country in order to protect that country’s citizens.
Who can decide when to use R2P? Also, what is this “international community” that gives it legitimacy and what countries form it? How and who defines the international community? The international community is much more than the NATO countries. Clearly, most the world was against the Anglo-American invasion of Iraq in 2003, but Washington and Britain claimed that the “international community” was with them. The term “international community” is actually a widely misrepresented concept and term. Washington continuously gets a series of small states that are virtual dependencies, satellites, and unrepresentative governments to add their names to all the lists it constantly produces for its military coalitions and initiatives and calls this the “international community.” These lists on the surface can sound impressive, but in reality they are hallow mirages meant to produce a deceiving appearance of international support and consensus. For example, Washington’s “Coalition of the Willing,” which was forged to invade Iraq in 2003, included Columbia, NATO-occupied Afghanistan’s Hamid Karzai, Georgia, El Salvador, and Iceland. If not U.S. satellites, the governments of these countries were either bribed or coerced into joining against the wishes of their populations.
Now, both the universities and civil society in the form of NGOs inside NATO countries have a big role to play in the dissemination of the R2P paradigm. They are pushing for its normalization in international relations and its use in Syria. Together with the recognition of the unrepresentative SNC and the mirage of Arab legitimacy provided by the undemocratic collection of GCC despots that have hijacked the Arab League, R2P will be utilized to create an international legal regime that will work to isolate, ? , and subjugate Damascus. -
no, i don't, because you've claimed that RT is NOT propaganda because these news organizations are. however, that is all completely IRRELEVANT to confirming or denying whether or not RT is propaganda.the bbc, sky news and cnn sing to the tune of the US and UK goverments hymn sheets and they don't stray from that, if the UK or the US goverment says pig can fly then they will report that, if Iran or Syria or Venezuela says that then they will investigate properly and do proper independent journalism and say those goverments are chatting ? , pure ? , you get what i'm saying--
in fact, the fact that you're militantly raging against them while praising RT suggests you would not actually recognize something you agree with as propaganda.
if it is that simple, then you could demonstrate this in some fashion, right? i will wait right here.rt shows the other side of that and is independent of the russian goverment and won't do the system cheerleading the western mainstream media does, its as simple as that -
but it's better than Stalin times, no?hefty-vulturestatus wrote: »Russia today is a joke, it's propoganda. -
rt is an independent news organization that tells it from the man on the streets point of view, i suppose cnn, bbc, sky news and fox are proper news organization, that don't have any western goverment bias or any of there agenda's in any of there stories
you won't see this on cnn or bbc & sky news over here over these sides of things neither
From wikipedia:
Criticisms of coverage of specific news incidents
During the 2008 South Ossetia War Russia Today correspondent William Dunbar resigned saying "the real news, the real facts of the matter, didn't conform to what they were trying to report, and therefore, they wouldn't let me report it."[33] Human Rights Watch said that the claim of 2000 South Ossetian casualties, announced by Russia Today,[34] was "exaggerated."[35] The Moscow correspondent for the Independent said that Russia Today's coverage of the war was "obscene", claiming that the channel was "extraordinarily biased" and had "instructed reporters not to report from Georgian villages within South Ossetia that had been ethnically cleansed."[36]
Wikipedia also says that RT is "run by the state-owned[1] state-run[2] RIA Novosti." The Russians are pro the Syrian regime, so it makes sense that RT would take the same position. Like janklow said, the other news companies you mentioned don't have anything to do with whether or not RT is propoganda. -
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from wikipedia fam?
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a good example was the protests against the recent election results in russia, rt were on it straight away, they showed what was happening and broke it down, from the get go, from day, you get what i'm saying, straight up and down, but the diffrence is, they also showed both sides of the coin, both sides of the picture(they showed that there was mass protests in support of putin's party aswell), unlike wit bbc, sky news or cnn who were showing images from riots from other country's and claiming it to be in russia and goin on like putin is hated in russia by the majority of the public or sumthin
it took almost a month for the bbc, cnn & sky to show the occupy wall street movement, you see what i'm saying, rt isn't russian goverment cheerleaders unlike the bbc, sky & cnn who take there viewpoint from western goverments foreign policy agenda, rt's is from the russian man on the street as opposed to the russian goverments political agenda, which is refreshing -
stop. you are missing the point.@janklow
a good example was the protests against the recent election results in russia, rt were on it straight away, they showed what was happening and broke it down, from the get go, from day, you get what i'm saying, straight up and down, but the diffrence is, they also showed both sides of the coin--
Russia Today is run by people who ASSUREDLY have their own positions. there is no media presented free of bias. so i guess i should quote this again:
"no, i don't, because you've claimed that RT is NOT propaganda because these news organizations are. however, that is all completely IRRELEVANT to confirming or denying whether or not RT is propaganda. in fact, the fact that you're militantly raging against them while praising RT suggests you would not actually recognize something you agree with as propaganda."
your argument that CNN/BBC/Sky is propaganda remains "because Russia Today disagrees with them." this is not a legitimate argument that those organizations present propaganda and RT doesn't. now, on to this:(they showed that there was mass protests in support of putin's party aswell), unlike wit bbc, sky news or cnn who were showing images from riots from other country's and claiming it to be in russia and goin on like putin is hated in russia by the majority of the public or sumthin
it took almost a month for the bbc, cnn & sky to show the occupy wall street movement, you see what i'm saying, rt isn't russian goverment cheerleaders unlike the bbc, sky & cnn who take there viewpoint from western goverments foreign policy agenda, rt's is from the russian man on the street as opposed to the russian goverments political agenda, which is refreshing
first off, it did not take "almost a month" for CNN to show the OWS Movement. i have no idea what that's based on. second, think about your argument here: Putin's position was that there was no funny business with the election; if RT reports this, it might even be true (doubtful), but it's certainly not something "opposed to the Russian government's political agenda." showing "mass protests in support of putin's party" would in fact BE the Russian government's agenda.
