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  • Ier30
    Ier30 Members Posts: 311
    edited November 2011
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    I love Rose but his decision making aint where you should be for a MVP taking 3's and shooting % is bad

    But Rose is right behind him IMO

    CP3
    Westbrook
    Rose

    My top 3

    Im sorry bruh but westbrook aint better than rose and d will still better than westbrook too
  • ysl313
    ysl313 Members Posts: 9,866 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    no training camp or pre season might be rough on a lot of teams and rookies
    but at least the league is back
  • JusDre313
    JusDre313 Members Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So now that the lockout is done what should we expect, what players u think are going to impress ?, who takes the west?, who takes the east? who wins it all?

    yall think OKC can give dallas a run for there money? i dont see dallas repeating. but ? i didnt think they would do what they did last year
  • Breezy_Kilroy
    Breezy_Kilroy Members Posts: 10,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Ier30 wrote: »
    Im sorry bruh but westbrook aint better than rose and d will still better than westbrook too

    C/S
    D Will got lost in the shuffle bc he plays for the Nets. people mistake athleticism with being a godd but thats not to say westbrook isn't a great player. d will is just better, put him on OKC and their playoff run wouldve been a different story.
  • FlyFreeCt
    FlyFreeCt Members Posts: 4,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    Switch DWill and Rose....and John Wall ain't better than Tony Parker yet.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    Rose isn't THAT much better then Westbrook. He's better but not by the margin ? are making it seem
  • sTaY_TrUe
    sTaY_TrUe Members Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    like this list but I'd switch Rondo and Westbrook
  • t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088
    t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088 Members Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    Good list, d-will>d. rose, westbrook>rondo, parker>wall and rondo
  • Beta
    Beta Members Posts: 65,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    Man ? a list Deron and Chris Paul are 1a and 1b and Westbrook is not better than Rose.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    See the issue is a matter of performance... And Westbrooks poor decision making in the playoffs is being magnified. That's the knock on him. He is a PG. N a PG is the coach on the floor he didn't run the team properly. He made a lot of boneheaded plays. Relying on his athleticism to mask his shortcomings as a PG. Rose does the same but he looked better doing it. The man won MVP he deserves credit. But overall their skill sets are similar.

    I sort of agree with this, russy is getting by on 95% athelticism right now. Rose is a better leader but their games are very similar. Rose is a much more willing passer tho.
  • Mvpbrodie93
    Mvpbrodie93 Members Posts: 8,036 ✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    And Paul is the best PG in the game, at his best he might be the best of all time. He's THAT good
  • Ier30
    Ier30 Members Posts: 311
    edited November 2011
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    tony parker and curry over wall
  • one_manshow
    one_manshow Members Posts: 4,591 ✭✭✭✭
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    Westbrook>>>Rondo

    Also Tyreke Evans when healthy>>> Step Curry.

    If Evans can stay healthy this season will he average 24-6-6 and give the Kings a shot at a playoff push.

    Kings will be a sleeper team and will make noise in the West if they can stay healthy.
  • D.D.S.
    D.D.S. Members Posts: 7,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    EmM HoLLa. wrote: »
    If you talkin Point Guards...

    1. Chris Paul (Best Pure PG)
    2. Derek Rose
    3. Deron Williams
    4. Steve Nash
    5. Rajon Rondo
    6. Russell Westbrook
    7. John Wall
    8. Tony Parker
    9. Stephen Curry
    10. Tyreke Evans


    deron is 1 chris is 2 derrick is 3
  • D.D.S.
    D.D.S. Members Posts: 7,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    rose aint that much better than westbrook. only knock i got on him is his decision making. if he can improve that, he can be better than rose.
  • Ier30
    Ier30 Members Posts: 311
    edited November 2011
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    you could argue that andre miller and chauncey billups top 10 pg's too tyreke got potential but he's not a better player right now same for wall
  • king papichulo
    king papichulo Members Posts: 296
    edited November 2011
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    CP3 >>> D-Will >>> Rose
  • yroholla
    yroholla Members Posts: 2,494 ✭✭✭✭
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    CP3 >>> D-Will >>> Rose

    Im more like CP3 > D Will >> Rose
  • Ier30
    Ier30 Members Posts: 311
    edited November 2011
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    clippers trying to get dwight
  • IceBergTaylor
    IceBergTaylor Members Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    DWill >>>>>>>>.
  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    ROSE is NOT A TOP 5 PG !!!!
  • A.J. Trillzynski
    A.J. Trillzynski Members Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2011
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    like everything else in life, once something gets massive recognition it becomes trendy to hate. i guess the cool thing now is to hate on D.Rose. SMH @ these lames, stop trying to stand out by saying dumb ? .
  • goodlookinout
    goodlookinout Members Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    So with the amnesty thing the league got if this deal gets voted in means if a player gets cut they basically gotta go thru a waiver wire like the nfl. I think that's hella wack. So if I'm makin big $$$$$ on a sorry team but I'm still a all star caliber player I can get picked up by another sorry squad Juss cause they don't want the Heat or Lakers to sign me. Mad wack folk. Iss gone be mad ? tanking it to get released or traded Juss watch.
  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    reaperbong wrote: »
    like everything else in life, once something gets massive recognition it becomes trendy to hate. i guess the cool thing now is to hate on D.Rose. SMH @ these lames, stop trying to stand out by saying dumb ? .

    if thats directed at me, i stand by my statement
  • A.J. Trillzynski
    A.J. Trillzynski Members Posts: 2,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rap doctor wrote: »
    if thats directed at me, i stand by my statement

    so there's 5 better NBA Point Guards than D.Rose? SMH ok then.. you go and stand by that dumb ?