Shaq calls kobe "the greatest laker of alltime"
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Kareem was 32 when he went to the lakers and was 41 when he retired he was on the downside.Magic led the 80's lakers
Pau Gasol career numbers 19 ppg 9.1 rebs 3.2 apg 1.7 blocks
Gasol playoff numbers 18 ppg 10 rebs 3.3 apg 1.9 blocks
James worthy career numbers 17.6 ppg 5 rebs 3.0 apg
James worthy playoff numbers 21 ppg 5 rebs 3 apg
Stop big uppin players you never watched play Gasol is just as good if not better than worthy
Lakers have won 77% of their games and went to 3 finals since the day they acquired gasol
And the nba has the most watered down hall of fame ever gasol will be a hall of famer
the irony of u being in here feeding magic gatorade like u actually had a sense of basketball back in 92 when he played ..... -
I think Kobe was acting like spoiled brat in the 04 Finals.....to me it seemed like he wanted it to be either he was the reason the Lakers won or they lost just as long as Shaq wasn't getting too much credit as he had always been getting prior to that series....I think he played in such a manner to spite Shaq in a way cause to this day I still feel that Lakers team was better than that 04 Pistons team..but many would prolly disagree cause the series was so one sided......with that said, Shaq wasn't winning 3 rings without Kobe regardless......I'm still stickin with Magic as the greatest Laker slightly edging Kobe....Kobe obviously had more skill overall compared to Magic but Magic could do more cause he was a 6'9 PG...? was almost unfair
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Look at this post...smh... full of female tendancies... His fans act bitchmade just like Kobe...
*I have no serious rebuttal post *
until you can do that take your jr high ? somewhere else and shut the ? up that lil ? rebutal might fly on your street corner lil ? but you not taking W's with that ? ass post -
playmaker88 wrote: »*I have no serious rebuttal post *
untill you can do that take your jr high ? some where else and shut the ? up
lol u the one who brought the jr high ? into the thread hurt over a post... -
Kareem was 1st team all nba and all defense in 80....he led that 80 Lakers squad....magic was neither
And let's not act like magic didn't choke away the 84 finals.....people were calling him "tragic magic" and "tragic johnson"
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Kareem was 1st team all nba and all defense in 80....he led that 80 Lakers squad....magic was neither
And let's not act like magic didn't choke away the 84 finals.....people were calling him "tragic magic" and "tragic johnson"
Every great player has had ? ups on a big stage, in every sport
right...
in the end everybody in here whether or not they hate kobe gotta admit he right up there among the elitist of the elite -
playmaker88 wrote: »*I have no serious rebuttal post *
until you can do that take your jr high ? somewhere else and shut the ? up that lil ? rebutal might fly on your street corner lil ? but you not taking W's with that ? ass postGood thing your opinion really doesnt matter in the scheme of tihngs.. i guess you dont know about Magics Notorious fuckups as well as MJ inability to lead his teams to great success before pippen. Will you hold this same level of critique to your contemporaries as well as teh predecessors seriously doubt it ..
Look at these two post...all angry and hurt acting like a little kid mad cause I made a critique of your favorite player now who truly acting like little ass kid coming with JR High ? ..
Now if you want to make a rebuttal... Jordan never lost in the NBA Finals... Kobe Lost Twice.... Magic Lost to Larry's Celtics and to Jordan both teams better than teams Kobe Lost to in the Finals... Now u want talk about Pippen...WHat did Kobe Did his first couple seasons as the lead guy... Bounced from the Playoffs first round to Steve Nash and didnt make the playoffs...
Jordan was losing to some of the greatest teams in NBA history to Larry Celtics and then Bad Boy Pistions (twice in the ECF).. Again no comparison... -
You are trying really hard fam. when you try hard you die hard in a room full of ppl again im sure this type of ? would cause ? to take out the pom poms and oooh and ahh but what have you really said.. aint no one mad or upset. ? your cliche ?
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Naw Shaq wrong on this one
Magic>>Kobe -
Tommy bilfiger wrote: »Could u name a rookie in nba history who was 1st team all nba and defense?
Magic the only rookie in history to win finals mvp thats the most important award
Winning the title and being the best player on your team while doing it
Lakers won game 6 and the championship and kareem didnt play
Thats leading your team not frivolous 1st teams awards
Yeah because that 1 game threw the 82 game season and previous rounds of playoff games out the window
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »He always emotional over kobe
I remember I made that kobe roast thread that groupie was the ONLY ? catchin feelings
Other kobe fans was tellin duke to calm down it was jokes
Cosign da bolded
I know... kinda sad really.. -
YoungGoldie wrote: »KOBE>>>>>>>>MAGIC
Dont believe me ? Ask Magic..........
This + ....Kobe is a better:
Shooter
Scorer
Defender
Clutch shooter
This + .....
Kobe Bryant vs. Magic Johnson
? Johnson:
5× NBA Champion (1980, 1982, 1985, 1987–1988) equal
3× NBA Most Valuable Player (1987, 1989–1990) + 2
12× NBA All-Star (1980, 1982–1992) -1
3× NBA Finals MVP (1980, 1982, 1987) +1
9× All-NBA First Team (1983–1991) equal
All-NBA Second Team (1982) -1
2× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1990, 1992) -2
NBA 3rd teams -2
NBA first defensive teams -9
NBA second defensive teams -2
scoring titles-2
Career points: 17,707 -10,161
Career assists: 10,141 +4,987
Career steals: 1,724 +71
Career rebound: 6,559 +730
Kobe Bryant:
5× NBA Champion (2000–2002, 2009–2010) equal
2× NBA Finals MVP (2009–2010) -1
NBA Most Valuable Player (2008) -2
13× NBA All-Star (1998, 2000–2011)+1
2× NBA scoring champion (2006–2007) +2
9× All-NBA First Team (2002–2004, 2006–2011) equal
2× All-NBA Second Team (2000–2001) +1
2× All-NBA Third Team (1999, 2005) +2
9× All-Defensive First Team (2000, 2003–2004, 2006–2011)+9
2× All-Defensive Second Team (2001–2002) +2
4× NBA All-Star Game MVP (2002, 2007, 2009, 2011)+2
Career points: 27,868 +10,161
Career assist: 5,154 -4987
Career steals: 1,653 -71
Career rebound: 5,829 -730
... and Kobe is still active.
= Kobe is a better laker.
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U want to Compare Magic was Finals MVP and a NBA All Star Player....Leading his teams to Chip... Kobe as a rookie was shooting 3 Point Airballs hurting the team against the Jazz.
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KOBE first ballot top ten player of all time but he had his fare share of ? ups.... His fans like to dismiss his performance against the Pistons he nearly single handledly shot the Lakers out the finals forcing bad shots (missing them mostly) and getting shut down by Prince... never mind that he ignored Shaq who was beasting Ben Wallace that whole series... That Finals Performance alone negates any comparsion to Jordan or Magic imo..
As far as the Lakers go its hard to put over Magic or Kareem and Shaq..
I watched ere sec of dat series. Its funny how mfs say Shaq carried da Lakers,but if u look at dat series ull see Kobe was being doubled n tripled team eretime he crossed da halfcourt line,with and without da ball. LOL @ u sayin shut down by Prince,smh @ dat ? . Payton n Malone were invisible out there. -
Obviously you simpletons are infuriated doggy.. ? stay tellin aesop fables.
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Magic retired cause the ? ? not cause his skills fell off...if they knew then what we know now about ? Magic could have played at least 5 or 6 more seasons barring injury at a High Level... People forget dude came back in 1996 Fat and out of shape still balling off the bench
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YoungGoldie wrote: »I watched ere sec of dat series. Its funny how mfs say Shaq carried da Lakers,but if u look at dat series ull see Kobe was being doubled n tripled team eretime he crossed da halfcourt line,with and without da ball. LOL @ u sayin shut down by Prince,smh @ dat ? . Payton n Malone were invisible out there.
Malone was hurt... Kobe forced shots and missed even when double and triple team ignoring A dominating Shaq... He was terrible that series and took bad shots and yes Prince held him in check even when matched up 1 on 1. Kobe played badly that Finals. Shaq didnt... -
this is a debate best discussed by die hard laker fans who been around long enough to see all the GOAT laker candidates play. no kobe hating bias, huge fan of all 4 players...
so i asked my pops.
1 magic
2 kareem
3 kobe
4 shaq
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and pops would get on here and out kobe stan all of us when it comes to current players
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »/thread
Magic will rep the lakers for generations he's the greatest laker of all time
man...that ish should be common knowledge. Feel bad for katz who never seen dude play, the nig made it cool for 6'5" and up guards to play the point. -
just asked my grandmother, her favorite laker of all time is nick van exel
anyway told her to rank the lakers she got
1 magic
2 kobe
3 kareem
4 wilt
my own moms got
1 kobe
2 magic
3 everybody else but shaq. she hate shaq
my supervisor got (old white guy obvious by #2 on his list)
1 magic
2 west
3 kareem
4 kobe
5 baylor
i caught the tail end of magic career, grew up with kobe. never actually seen cap play live, so...
my own list
1a/1b kobe magic
3 shaq
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Tommy bilfiger wrote: »/thread
Magic will rep the lakers for generations he's the greatest laker of all time
? love magics ? in here so no matter what kobe does he will never be better than magic pure BS when magic himself said kobe was better ? never wanna respond to that -
it would be nice if you posted the minute mark when he says it so i don't have to watch the whole damn video !!!!!!!!
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it would be nice if you posted the minute mark when he says it so i don't have to watch the whole damn video !!!!!!!!
My bad bruh lol
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