Lets be real Ross making it hard for Jeezy or Tip to eat right now!!!
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H-Rap 180 wrote:How is waiting til December a good idea to drop meek millz album? He has a nice buzz going he should drop an album now.
Don't be impatient, "House Party" is still buzzing heavy and he's touring right now but his buzz will be even hotter after SelfMade 2 and Dreamchasers 2 and you already know he's going to have hot verses on French's debut and GFID along with some other collabs.
I dont like the idea of Meek dropping right now without a strong single. When Wale dropped "Ambition" he had "That Way" all over the radio and a crazy movement on Twitter and he rode that momentum into "Lotus Flower Bomb" and now on to "Sabotage"...but the twist is that Meek ain't got that R&B crossover element so with a street artist in this day&age you gotta have a hot single or an "I Do" like Jeezy if you want some record sales that don't look like Yo Gotti's
If you count on the streets to buy your albums and don't get the Sistas on deck or a crossover track you gonna flop 9 times outta 10.
I understand what they're trying to do. They want to make sure millz buzz is big before dropping an album. I mean look at j cole last year. none of his singles were really as big around the time of his album release. yet he still went gold. this waiting game could hurt him
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If you would've said this ? last summer then nobody could've argued it but that ? ross buzz is fadin fast
an jeezy just went gold and ain't never gonna stop tip that ? put in too much work -
Miles HIGH wrote: »
Nobody in the streets bumping no ? Alley Boy. All the people I know atleast. If you talking about in the so-called hood or projects. Who the ? really cares about that ? . Broke ? use the hoods and projects to come up. Then they gone. It is more stand up for a ? like T.I. who does not have to keep screaming Bankhead to do it than some petty broke ? to talk tough and about how hood he is until he gets where he wants to go. If you ask some random person going throughout there day about Alley Boy that person is going to look at you like who? Everyone on this site claims to be whatever they need to be to get some wack point across. So, you dipped to Decatur one day and it told you all you need to know. LMAO.
One day?...I basically spent half my life there, cuh...I'm talmbout livin there for 3 years total plus spendin every summer there since 1996...I was just there for 3 days last weekend, chillin wit my cousins boyfriend off Candler...My face is on the wall in American Deli on Wesley Chapel, don't try me like that, lol...You actin hurt when I'm sayin I'm a fan of T.I. myself...Moreso than I am of Ross...But to say his current music is more popular than Ross's current music is absurd...And to say nobody bumps Alley Boy is absurd as well...Good day.
Naw, you sounding mighty stupid and fake. Talking about someone trying you like you really gonna do something over the internet. Like I say and many have said in this thread when you say making it hard for someone to eat that is going beyond music. Both of those dudes get caked stash from how long they been on vs Ross that is my point. Your points are ignorant ? about you claiming to know what is going on in the streets. It has nothing to do with who you a fan of by the way. That's like a person on here saying I'm black but Eminem is the best you could have kept that ? to yourself. -
t/s lets be real jeezy making def jam realize ross will flop and not want to invest anymore money in to gfid . jeezy stay selling 500k easy and performing all over late night tv and doing concerts. how is ross slowing up his money?
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H-Rap 180 wrote:How is waiting til December a good idea to drop meek millz album? He has a nice buzz going he should drop an album now.
Don't be impatient, "House Party" is still buzzing heavy and he's touring right now but his buzz will be even hotter after SelfMade 2 and Dreamchasers 2 and you already know he's going to have hot verses on French's debut and GFID along with some other collabs.
I dont like the idea of Meek dropping right now without a strong single. When Wale dropped "Ambition" he had "That Way" all over the radio and a crazy movement on Twitter and he rode that momentum into "Lotus Flower Bomb" and now on to "Sabotage"...but the twist is that Meek ain't got that R&B crossover element so with a street artist in this day&age you gotta have a hot single or an "I Do" like Jeezy if you want some record sales that don't look like Yo Gotti's
If you count on the streets to buy your albums and don't get the Sistas on deck or a crossover track you gonna flop 9 times outta 10.
I understand what they're trying to do. They want to make sure millz buzz is big before dropping an album. I mean look at j cole last year. none of his singles were really as big around the time of his album release. yet he still went gold. this waiting game could hurt him
That's a good point.
I think J.Cole benifitted a lot by being JayZ's "chosen one" and he was heavy on the college campuses and had critically acclaimed mixtapes so once "Work Out" caught fire on urban radio he toured his ass of and eventually got a Gold single and Gold album.
I'm looking at Tyga doing 60K with "Rack City" getting play every 6 seconds for the last month and I'm like damn that's not too good with a Young Money co-sign and a buzzing single.
It's always a gamble...Saigon was too late with his and Roscoe Dash was too soon and both flopped.
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This thread might be true in the case of Jeezy, but Ross and T.I. are pretty much in the same position right now. Ross has a lil' leverage over T.I. being that he easily had the better mixtape (T.I.'s mixtape got some heat on it though) and "You The Boss" was more successful than "I'm Flexin". That being said, both currently have no release date and have had a single that flopped.
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Why do people still apply buzz to established artists? Jeezy's last album should've put to rest that an artist needs some type of buzz to do numbers. Only new artists need buzz.
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Ross ain't do ? to dem nikkaz dem nikkaz doin the ? to deyselves
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Lol how is Jeezy not eating when he just went gold? One rapper buzz might be more than the other but it's not affecting how none of them are eating. Most Ross fans are also Jeezy fans.. Most Jeezy fans are also Ross fans. They all eating.
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georgia boi wrote: »This thread might be true in the case of Jeezy, but Ross and T.I. are pretty much in the same position right now. Ross has a lil' leverage over T.I. being that he easily had the better mixtape (T.I.'s mixtape got some heat on it though) and "You The Boss" was more successful than "I'm Flexin". That being said, both currently have no release date and have had a single that flopped. [/quot
Nah homie this ain't just about radio play. TI is just meh right now
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Im sorry but Tip ain't putting out that kinda quality. I've listen to TI last mixtape about 3 times and the only thing worth keeping (imo of course) was that Mannie Fresh track and mayyyyyyyyyybe that joint with Trey Songs. TI dun fell off.....its understandable though as he lost so much time to prison. Plus Tip ain't worried about music, dude just trying to expand his brand as far as he can. TIP gone go where the money is......and right now thats reality TV for him. -
StillDreaming wrote: »georgia boi wrote: »This thread might be true in the case of Jeezy, but Ross and T.I. are pretty much in the same position right now. Ross has a lil' leverage over T.I. being that he easily had the better mixtape (T.I.'s mixtape got some heat on it though) and "You The Boss" was more successful than "I'm Flexin". That being said, both currently have no release date and have had a single that flopped. [/quot
Nah homie this ain't just about radio play. TI is just meh right now
High Definition
MMG Untouchable
Rich Forever
Triple Beam Dreams
Keys ti the Crib
Im sorry but Tip ain't putting out that kinda quality. I've listen to TI last mixtape about 3 times and the only thing worth keeping (imo of course) was that Mannie Fresh track and mayyyyyyyyyybe that joint with Trey Songs. TI dun fell off.....its understandable though as he lost so much time to prison. Plus Tip ain't worried about music, dude just trying to expand his brand as far as he can. TIP gone go where the money is......and right now thats reality TV for him.
Man how y'all edit ur post this new format is killing me -
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Instead of calling me a ? can u assist me with using the forum. u r a mod right? -
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StillDreaming wrote: »georgia boi wrote: »This thread might be true in the case of Jeezy, but Ross and T.I. are pretty much in the same position right now. Ross has a lil' leverage over T.I. being that he easily had the better mixtape (T.I.'s mixtape got some heat on it though) and "You The Boss" was more successful than "I'm Flexin". That being said, both currently have no release date and have had a single that flopped. [/quot
Nah homie this ain't just about radio play. TI is just meh right now
High Definition
MMG Untouchable
Rich Forever
Triple Beam Dreams
Keys ti the Crib
Im sorry but Tip ain't putting out that kinda quality. I've listen to TI last mixtape about 3 times and the only thing worth keeping (imo of course) was that Mannie Fresh track and mayyyyyyyyyybe that joint with Trey Songs. TI dun fell off.....its understandable though as he lost so much time to prison. Plus Tip ain't worried about music, dude just trying to expand his brand as far as he can. TIP gone go where the money is......and right now thats reality TV for him.
As stated before, Ross's mixtape is easily better than T.I.'s. T.I. had several dope songs on his mixtape ("On Purpose", "Stuntin' Like A Fool", "Popped Off", "This Time of Night" and a couple of others), but the threadstarter isn't talking about the quality of music. Both T.I. and Ross are currently pretty much in the same position. Neither of them have a release date and no singles. They only have mixtapes. Whether or not T.I. fell off is whole other thread. -
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Thank u kind sirhttp://youtu.be/58RBXwwICjE
Ain't nothing on 103 or TIs tape ? with that -
Lol how is Jeezy not eating when he just went gold? One rapper buzz might be more than the other but it's not affecting how none of them are eating. Most Ross fans are also Jeezy fans.. Most Jeezy fans are also Ross fans. They all eating.
Everybody is at their table eating their food but the portions on the plate and the quality of the food is not the same.
Jeezy's previous album (Recession) sold 260,000 first week and his 2011 album (TM103) sold 233,000 first week; he has a strong and loyal fan base who support his projects release like they are an event.
T.I. previous album (Paper Trail) sold 568,000 first week and his last album in 2010 (No Mercy) sold 159,000 first week
Ricky Rozay last album (Deeper than Rap) sold 158,000 copies first week and his last album (Teflon Don) in 2010 sold 176,000 first week.
So if first-week sales are an indication of interest and buzz would it be safe to say that T.I. has taken a dip in popularity while Jeezy and Rozay have maintained their core fan base?
Would it be also safer to say that Rozay is the only one out of the three that has increased his music fan base in the last 3 years that they have all dropped albums?
T.I. has his reality show on VH1 which in my opinion puts him ahead of Ross & Jeezy in terms of popularity and visibility but music industry wise Rozay is making bigger moves than both T.I. & Jeezy. As far as the music quality you already know who got it.
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StillDreaming wrote: »
word, ross need to put this & last breathe on that gfid, -
Lol @ ? mad because The Real Is Back now
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Naw, you sounding mighty stupid and fake. Talking about someone trying you like you really gonna do something over the internet. Like I say and many have said in this thread when you say making it hard for someone to eat that is going beyond music. Both of those dudes get caked stash from how long they been on vs Ross that is my point. Your points are ignorant ? about you claiming to know what is going on in the streets. It has nothing to do with who you a fan of by the way. That's like a person on here saying I'm black but Eminem is the best you could have kept that ? to yourself.
Bruh...Yo points are irrelevant...All I'm talmbout is who's music is hotter in the region right na...It's clearly Ross...I also said that when it comes to potential sales, popularity, and money, T.I.P. is still elite, and ain't nobody stoppin that...The first post I made in this thread I co-signed and no-signed the t/s...Again, you just soundin hurt by the truth...But you win...Go ride round Atlanta and take a poll of how many ? is playin "Harry Potter" on 285...Lol. -
T. Sanford wrote: »Lol @ ? mad because The Real Is Back now
Big Meech "THE REAL IS HERE TO STAY, WHEN U HERE TO STAY U AIN'T GOTTA COME BACK"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfkTh_5iIZc
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ThaCerealKilla wrote: »T. Sanford wrote: »Lol @ ? mad because The Real Is Back now
Big Meech "THE REAL IS HERE TO STAY, WHEN U HERE TO STAY U AIN'T GOTTA COME BACK"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfkTh_5iIZc
gotdamn
So Big Meech suppose to be dissing Jeezy? -
H-Rap 180 wrote:Lol how is Jeezy not eating when he just went gold? One rapper buzz might be more than the other but it's not affecting how none of them are eating. Most Ross fans are also Jeezy fans.. Most Jeezy fans are also Ross fans. They all eating.
Everybody is at their table eating their food but the portions on the plate and the quality of the food is not the same.
Jeezy's previous album (Recession) sold 260,000 first week and his 2011 album (TM103) sold 233,000 first week; he has a strong and loyal fan base who support his projects release like they are an event.
T.I. previous album (Paper Trail) sold 568,000 first week and his last album in 2010 (No Mercy) sold 159,000 first week
Ricky Rozay last album (Deeper than Rap) sold 158,000 copies first week and his last album (Teflon Don) in 2010 sold 176,000 first week.
So if first-week sales are an indication of interest and buzz would it be safe to say that T.I. has taken a dip in popularity while Jeezy and Rozay have maintained their core fan base?
Would it be also safer to say that Rozay is the only one out of the three that has increased his music fan base in the last 3 years that they have all dropped albums?
T.I. has his reality show on VH1 which in my opinion puts him ahead of Ross & Jeezy in terms of popularity and visibility but music industry wise Rozay is making bigger moves than both T.I. & Jeezy. As far as the music quality you already know who got it.
T.I. was in jail when that weedplate dropped. Paper Trails had like 4 top 10 singles.. I don't expect him to repeat that success but his next joint could do 300-400k first week and go platinum eventually.
Comparing The Recession sales to TM 103 doesn't make sense because the last joint dropped 4 years ago in a different climate. Jeezy did really good for the type of rapper he is, especially after everyone had counted him out.
Yes, Rozay obviously has risen.. T.I. and Jeezy have been established for a while now. Yes, Ross' music has been better than anything Jeezy or Tip put out recently.. and I definitely applaud what he's doing with Maybach Music.. Wale's sales were great (I've been a fan of him since 07 so I watched his last flop), Meek has one of the biggest buzzes in the game, and Stalley is dropping that thought provoking realness over dope beats. You can't undermine Ross at all. He's accomplishing a lot right now.
With that said, that's not taking anything away from Jeezy and Tip. Tip is always gonna appeal to the mainstream before Ross. Jeezy gon keep his fan base like you said.. and keep dropping dope music. So how is Ross making it hard for anyone to eat? I like them and all and I think they all can coexist without preventing one another from eating. -
lol @ ross runnin ? why ya'll hype this dude up for he aint no factor like that but ? it let's play this
first off ross got 3 gold albums jeezy put out 3 platinum albums
ross had probley his biggest year in 2010 with 3 big singles,def jam all on his ? and still went gold..jeezy put out an album and despite numerous delays,people writing him off, no real huge single or promotion and still went gold..
lol @ ross makin it hard for ? ..they try to hype him up like he big time but forever a 2nd string ass ? who's can only go gold is he IC's tim tebow or jeremy lynn now?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwGfSgqgqRA
