Chuck D "Jay Z And Kanye West's Bases Are "Corrupt To Rap"

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  • SneakDZA
    SneakDZA Members Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So this thread has successfully been converted to a discussion about WTT instead of the knowledge Chuck D dropped about the music industry, poverty and society.

    It's really looking like a lot of you guys don't have the capability to think or express yourselves beyond a very limited scope.
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL at this fool recording himself and putting up youtube videos. No one cares ? , why would your sensitive ass go make a video based on what someone said on the internet. Sensitive ass ? !
  • Garv*
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    Uncle Tom Tom needs to find his bearings, you can tell deep inside he is a lost white boy.
  • usmarin3
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    Shut the ? up you fake Jamaican, don't even know why you rep Marcus Garvey knowing damn well you're not from Jamaica. ? ass probably from Fresno!
  • H-Rap 180
    H-Rap 180 Members Posts: 15,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Garv* wrote: »
    Uncle Tom Tom needs to find his bearings, you can tell deep inside he is a lost white boy.

    Lakers Won!!!

    Yeah he's very sensitive when it comes to JayZ...a few posters photoshopped his head on Supermans body with a picture of JayZ on his chest....remember that?

    This ignorant fool is gonna tell us that Dub-step didnt originate in London because a Black man in Detroit invented Electronic music.....he will ignore my other points.

    That type of ? will tell you that Death Metal is "Black music" because a Black man invented Rock.

  • High Revolutionary
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    What is the name of the guy that invented electronic music?
  • usmarin3
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    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.
  • High Revolutionary
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.

    All the knowledge in the world is irrelevant if you don't have knowledge of self.
  • Disciplined InSight
    Disciplined InSight Members Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm gonna play devil's advocate with this..

    C'mon now fellas...let's look at this from a logical and analyzable standpoint.

    Jay always said his music was therapeutic...so in a sense he put us, Hip Hop fans in the role of psychiatrists and wanted us to listen in depths of how he felt..and we listened to his story that was more deeper than drug deals, smashing smuts that was in awe of money magnetism and jewels instead of himself, having regrets selling to his own people, dodging slugs from haters, throwing away bail money..to do the same ? all over again.

    Jay did, at one point, in his career gave the culture of Black struggle, HIS struggle in his own words, 16+ years through the eyes of a drug dealer in Brooklyn, New York realizing he had a gift to where he could clean himself from that negativity.... and everybody listened no matter what color or background you came from, you listened and through that it showed him that he was much better than a low-life drug dealer from Marcy Projects and took our admiration of his wordplay, flow and unique point of view to doing other things.

    Maybe he got tired of telling the same story to us Hip Hop fans aka psychiatrists and decided to go a different route.
  • usmarin3
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.

    All the knowledge in the world is irrelevant if you don't have knowledge of self.

    I have the strongest knowledge of self. My thoughts and how i look and approach the world isn't dictated by my race like some of these ? . My race doesn't define who i am!
  • H-Rap 180
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    edited March 2012
    uolag wrote: »
    mental note to myself

    don't f*ck with Usmarin3 ..... he super gully son

    no beef

    He might just be the gulliest but I think Jesse Lee Peterson, Clarence Thomas, and Herman Cain got him beat.

    ..Never trust a so-called Black man named after the armed forces with a white chick in his Sig...*WARNING SIGN*


    One of them Eurocentric Black males that tries so desperate to identify with JayZ but we all know this oreo spends his free-time E-chatting in the GnS about how his white girlfriend got gang-? by a group of "? " and he sat there and watched like a lil ol' ? and then jumped on the Illcommunity for some advice on how he should have handled the situation.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgpVQvqD1vQ

    ^^^^That boy whole style is CHUMP..check him on video
  • Disciplined InSight
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    edited March 2012
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.

    I always thought Kraftwerk (German based group who's been sampled in Hip Hop numerous times) originated techno music...
  • usmarin3
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    HRAP?

    Why you living in America then if you are so anti- military or anti white, why aren't you in Sudan clapping AK47 for the cause. Oh yeah, you're just another pretentious freedom fighter who enjoys the benefits of what the U.S. military and this white society provides you. You ain't real ? , you're thoughts don't materialize into action.


    You can say whatever you want to say clown, atleast i carry myself like a ? man. I'm not the one running to make Youtube videos because some white boy tried me showing off your 5 x 5 junky ass apartment. You will always be a underachiever your whole life because you carry yourself like a victim and is angry at the world. Man the ? up, get outside your ? ass projects, travel the world, and maybe you will see the world is bigger than some race ? .

    Race is only big to small minded people!
  • Garv*
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    I too would feel emasculated if i let my girlfriend get ? in front of my eyes, while doing nothing. I too would live my life through rappers if i was a failed lawyer turrnt US soldier, its sad sometimes when you see people who never amount to anything, and spend their time and the little money they have chasing flat ass white girls in a bid to get rich off her daddys riches.
  • H-Rap 180
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    @UncleTom

    Why aint you in Europe were you can shine shoes or Buckdance with the same awkwardness that got you teased out f school and caused you to hate yourself?

    You aint a man you are a gutless, spineless white-? who ran to the IC to ask Black posters what you should have done when them Burly Mandingo brothers ? your white girlfried right in front of your face.

    Yeah I posted some reading materials for my brothers, and Im sure you can post the sex tape of your white ? that got manhandled by tham Black folks you hate so much


    You will always be a white mans ni99er because you aint never been nowhere to experience culture outside of the white community that you are sheltered in....your little dorm room with the bunk and your white room mates? You their ? huh?


  • H-Rap 180
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.

    I always thought Kraftwerk (German based group who's been sampled in Hip Hop numerous times) originated techno music...

    Bruh dont get caught up in this House-? and his tricknology.

    We all know a Black man invented Rock music but how many Black folks listen to Death Metal??

    This silly ? -? hates Black folk because some BIG Mandingo Buck-? biych-slapped him and ran his ? and he sat their bug-eyed like a cartoon-? while they took turns tearing that white ? to shreds.

    ASK HIM....he cant lie about it because everybody in the GnS knows about it because he logged on crying about the ? asking what he should do.


    White-? with his Eurocentric white-washed brain and ? -like tendancies...alot of them Island negroes are like this awkward outcast because they identify more to whites than they do African Americans.
  • waterproof
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    HRAP?

    Why you living in America then if you are so anti- military or anti white, why aren't you in Sudan clapping AK47 for the cause. Oh yeah, you're just another pretentious freedom fighter who enjoys the benefits of what the U.S. military and this white society provides you. You ain't real ? , you're thoughts don't materialize into action.


    You can say whatever you want to say clown, atleast i carry myself like a ? man. I'm not the one running to make Youtube videos because some white boy tried me showing off your 5 x 5 junky ass apartment. You will always be a underachiever your whole life because you carry yourself like a victim and is angry at the world. Man the ? up, get outside your ? ass projects, travel the world, and maybe you will see the world is bigger than some race ? .

    Race is only big to small minded people!

    wow pressure bust pipes, when the heat is on the truth comes out, this white society provides for us.....WOW
  • Garv*
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    Whats the benefits of the Us Military uncle tom marine?
  • waterproof
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    @UncleTom

    Why aint you in Europe were you can shine shoes or Buckdance with the same awkwardness that got you teased out f school and caused you to hate yourself?

    You aint a man you are a gutless, spineless white-? who ran to the IC to ask Black posters what you should have done when them Burly Mandingo brothers ? your white girlfried right in front of your face.

    Yeah I posted some reading materials for my brothers, and Im sure you can post the sex tape of your white ? that got manhandled by tham Black folks you hate so much


    You will always be a white mans ni99er because you aint never been nowhere to experience culture outside of the white community that you are sheltered in....your little dorm room with the bunk and your white room mates? You their ? huh?


    DAMN i even cringe when i read that ? , it burns slow my friend it burns slow...ETHER. H Rap i have a nice size library to PM a list of some books so i can go down the checklist to see if i am missing anything
  • H-Rap 180
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    edited March 2012
    is this what Chuck wanted?

    Chuck wanted somebody to ? on a ? and I got a whole roll of toilet tissue.

    How the hell this ? acting like he actually been somewhere when he got 25,000 posts on a Hiphop forum and he dont even make a living off HipHop music?? #Weredeydodatat

    Sounds like a lonely little punk ? thats mad at all Black folks over what happened to him and his ? .


    Did this Uncle Ruckus just say he carries himself like a man with his white-porno-Hoe Sigs, JayZ worship, and gossiping in the GnS like a lil ol' batch??


    HOUSE-? PLEASE

    jay-z-lyor-cohen.jpg
  • Disciplined InSight
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    LOL at you fake ass Afrocentric ? , ya'll ain't about that cause. If you were you wouldn't be on you're Euro computers, using Euro cameras to make videos, reading books probably published by Euro publishers, while ya'll drinking Euro drinks from a Euro store. Ya'll ain't about that life of practicing what you preach, you just another pseudo black righteous fool who like to hear yourself talk.

    You ? are limited as hell mentally and in your experiences. I can tell most of you fools have never been outside your hoods, traveled anywhere, or been in a diverse higher education setting.

    PS techno/electronic music originated in Detroit, all the other forms of electronic music (Dubstep,Drum and Bass, Trip Hop,etc) derived from techno music. Any idiot who follow music should know this, smh at this fool trying to kick knowledge to me.

    I always thought Kraftwerk (German based group who's been sampled in Hip Hop numerous times) originated techno music...

    Bruh dont get caught up in this House-? and his tricknology.

    We all know a Black man invented Rock music but how many Black folks listen to Death Metal??

    This silly ? -? hates Black folk because some BIG Mandingo Buck-? biych-slapped him and ran his ? and he sat their bug-eyed like a cartoon-? while they took turns tearing that white ? to shreds.

    ASK HIM....he cant lie about it because everybody in the GnS knows about it because he logged on crying about the ? asking what he should do.


    White-? with his Eurocentric white-washed brain and ? -like tendancies...alot of them Island negroes are like this awkward outcast because they identify more to whites than they do African Americans.

    Nah..I wasn't caught up..I was just letting him know techno music didn't start in Detroit, even though it came to prominence in the 80's the influence started with Kraftwerk in the 70's..
  • usmarin3
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    @UncleTom

    Why aint you in Europe were you can shine shoes or Buckdance with the same awkwardness that got you teased out f school and caused you to hate yourself?

    You aint a man you are a gutless, spineless white-? who ran to the IC to ask Black posters what you should have done when them Burly Mandingo brothers ? your white girlfried right in front of your face.

    Yeah I posted some reading materials for my brothers, and Im sure you can post the sex tape of your white ? that got manhandled by tham Black folks you hate so much


    You will always be a white mans ni99er because you aint never been nowhere to experience culture outside of the white community that you are sheltered in....your little dorm room with the bunk and your white room mates? You their ? huh?


    I'm not the one mad at the world, you are! You're the one on some back to Africa nonsense, i'm perfectly cool with living in America and not blaming anyone for my status in society.

    LOL at teased in school, where do you come up with these fantasy stories from? Stop your pseudo psychoanalytical nonsense clown, smh at you thinking you can analyze people because you read some books. I went to Ely High School in Pompano Beach, FL, that's school is over 90 percent black. Try again!

    Since you want to talk, you want to know what color my girl was if we are being honest, she was black. You want to know the color of the attacker (notice i said attacker), black! Stop living and creating fantasies in your dense ass brain about white ? , weird ass mf. Who seriously think of ? like that.

    LOL i've never been anywhere. I'm from Jamaica which is more spiritually connected to Africa than you're privileged American ass. I've been to numerous Caribbean countries and all over Asian.

    You want to know what i've found traveling, that's most people aren't as mentally dense as you or stuck on some race ? . Most people aren't social lepars like you either.
  • H-Rap 180
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    edited March 2012
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Garv* wrote: »
    I too would feel emasculated if i let my girlfriend get ? in front of my eyes, while doing nothing. I too would live my life through rappers if i was a failed lawyer turrnt US soldier, its sad sometimes when you see people who never amount to anything, and spend their time and the little money they have chasing flat ass white girls in a bid to get rich off her daddys riches.

    You should feel emasculated by not being able to get a girl much less speak about someone's girl. Not that any of the nonsense you just typed is true or actually happened. lol at failed lawyer turned soldier, i'm not even in the military idiot and even if did fail out of law school it would more than you're ass would ever achieve in your government cheese ass life. I don't need to chase money, my parent's are educated and well off, plus ambition is something that's stressed in my household not "playing the victim".

    HUSH HOE.

    You should feel emaculated for letting your ? get ? in front of your raggedy ass you sucka.

    You aint in the military but you a wannbee, you wish you could be a soldier so you could say "Yes Sir" every day like your parents taught your ? ass to do when in the presence of white folks that look down on you.


    Fake ass lawyer, you a paralegal butler for the D.A. an undercover white-? railroading innocent Black folks in exchange for a pat on your oreo head.


    Fake ass Eurocentric wannabee-white ? victim.....you a true VICTIM bruh....you and your ? got victimized


    jay-z-and-chris-martin.jpg

  • waterproof
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    Like a poster said in this thread earlier let me put in this term.

    If a brother who got his ? straight, got the finer things of life and shining, handling himself like a man, giving gems a young brother will see that and be like YO i want that, im going to work hard for that. JUST BECAUSE HE IS SHINING.

    that's a difference between shining and flossing, Jay-z floss on his fans. He telling them ? like YOU CAN'T FLOSS ON MY LEVEL, and Diamond rings on them ect.... just all types of fuckery to his fans. SMH
  • almighty breeze
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    H-Rap 180 wrote: »
    most of the negative watch the throne commentary is what happens when people (read:? ) take things only for the literal meaning. they come to the easiest and simplest conclusion without 2nd thought of any other possibilities

    to answer chucks claim- when has and why would the system change because ? are "angry" at it

    "when people (read:? )...."

    who are you Rush Limbaugh? Sean Hannity or Uncle Ruckus?

    Do you consider yourself a "? " or is that just a word you use on the Internet from behind pics of other men who you attempt to live vicariously through? When you say "? are angry at it" who are you referring to the ? in a Paris?

    it sounds like you're implying that im white and hiding behind internaet aliases to cover my bias. I understand that on the IC we see a lot of that nonsense but i barely put enough time in here or any forum/site to pretend im something im not. i shouldnt have to prove im black and i wont but i get the track record....i guess

    i say ? because casual fans and white fans dont pay attention to that or dwell on it. For various reasons-subliminal and literal. But a lot of backlash from black people is at the title (Watch the Throne) and the literal meaning of it. The arrogance, the bragging. That if u follow the hip hop crews its The Throne-MMG-YMCMB and this is Jay/Yes way of sayin "we on top, watch us" i get that. but its not limited to that. thats only one aspect
    Another negative aspect is the agenda behind saying they are ONLY praising european culture which i think is totally false. If anything i see merely a tip of the hat. an ackonowledgement. but most of the emphasis is on the moving up the ranks to BE recording in London, Paris and it be a big deal to be selling out shows, have European fashion and music culture clamoring for u. Because of how London, Paris etc are viewed. Not because that defines sucess. I agree with u. That ? aint superior at all. But u only focusing on that to lash out at is doing yourself a disservice and im not takin the bait. I know you know better. we've all seen your posts/threads. i know you think things through better than that.

    the "? are angry at it" is pointing out that no system has ever been changed or affected, Especially with black people just because we were angry with it. Its not until action is taken even if we dont see that ? all the way through. Even if its somewhat misguided but sheds light on the bigger picture that even the smallest changes are made.

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