interesting read on harrison barnes...
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....and his underwhelming college career
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7737280/harrison-barnes-two-years-north-carolina-tar-heels#footnoteref1
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7737280/harrison-barnes-two-years-north-carolina-tar-heels#footnoteref1
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Poorly written article....
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to summarize, harrison barnes just aint that good
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i read it earlier...dude just not as good as people were making him out to be:
can't create his own shot off the dribble
plays with no urgency
not a great defender
stands on the parameter too much
with that said, he'll still be a lottery pick -
Didnt really get the point of his article besides pointing out how weak Harrison Barnes game is
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Barnes did what his coached wanted him to do.
He got game and yall who say he dont yall must have never played before -
Blame the "scouts" and the media. not Barnes. He never said he was the best recruit in a while. He never said he was a lottery pick. He came in and played his game. He has been a let down but that's not all his fault since he never placed those expectations on himself
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@matt, the same could be said about 90% of busts or "let-downs".
I can't think of a bust that publicly said "I'm coming in to ? ? up!"
On some ol Step Brothers type ish. -
What were ppl expecting though..it s college bball.. Seldom u see players at major schools put the team on their backs and ball out. But the improvement from the freshman to the sophomore is there. Ppl acting like his issues cannot be fixed. ? it only took D Rose a couple of seasons as a pro to find a jumper.
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greenwood1921 wrote: »@matt, the same could be said about 90% of busts or "let-downs".
I can't think of a bust that publicly said "I'm coming in to ? ? up!"
On some ol Step Brothers type ish.
lmao pretty much
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Again, I don't think any of this myopia is Harrison Barnes's fault. We live in a cannibalistic era where sports news exists only for its own sake, and therefore every bit of information about a 17-year-old phenom gets inflated and distorted. Harrison Barnes, at the age of 17, believed he was an NBA brand because everyone in the country already assumed he'd win the Naismith and go on to be the first pick in the draft. But all those interviews, all those press conferences, and all that hype had their effect.
I can see folks conveniently missed this part of the article -
Shizlansky87 wrote: »Barnes did what his coached wanted him to do.
He got game and yall who say he dont yall must have never played before
No he didn't and no he doesn't !
His bread and butter is supposed to be scoring cause he doesn't do much else and he's only average at it
He's slow, cant get to the rim and when he does, cant finish -
Thats true And 90% of the time people blame the players and continue to put their trust in "experts" who rank players.
It's similar to preseason college football polls. A team gets voted in the top 5 or top 10 then has an average season and people blame the team when they never should have had that "top 5" label put on them in the first place
And I don't think there is anyway to say that him doing interviews had an effect because that's 100% speculation. If you believe that the. You have to believe he would have been the player of the year had he not done those interviews and had the hype. It's silly to look at things that way and come to an absolute conclusion. That's lazy journalism and analysis -
agreed
the article was just him saying Barnes wasnt good and tying in other BS to make the article seem interesting -
So i guess we cant say that players are busts and that teams underachieve anymore because its the "media and fans fault" for expecting a certain level of performance out of them?
Yeah thats cool. -
^^^ThisDude offensive skill set is great
He has that Joe Johnson mind-set though
Has the talent but not aggressive enough
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And I'm no great fan of his but he did average 15 and 17 pts in his first 2 seasons. He isn't going to have many assists because that's not his job. They have the best passing of in the nation and he won't get many rebounds because he plays with Henson and zeller, but I think he got 4 or 5 a game. His problem is he can't dribble. He can create his own shots when he just has to do a step back or fadeaway or something with minimal dribbling. And he's way too inefficient as a shooter. The great thing is that can be corrected and I think he will correct it and once he does, he could prove worthy of being a top 5 pick.
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Giving someone that label implies you thought they were going to be a certain type of player. And if they don't turn into that player, doesn't it say more about your ability to evaluate talent? Not you personally, but the people that place labels on guys.Justin Sane wrote: »So i guess we cant say that players are busts and that teams underachieve anymore because its the "media and fans fault" for expecting a certain level of performance out of them?
Adam Morrison was a top 10 pick but damn near everyone knew he wouldn't be ? in the NBA, is he a bust simply because of where he was drafted? He was who we thought he was. What if he was the 50th pick? Should he still get that label? -
Barnes been overrated.
Don't need to read an article to know that. -
Scouting report:
Harrison Barnes, 6-6, 206, Ames, Iowa: Allow me to damn Barnes with faint praise. For someone who is widely recognized one of the top three players in his class, he's a little underwhelming. He's not a freak athlete by any measure, and he certainly does not strike me as a candidate to be one-done -
IMO he will be a better NBA player than he was in COllege.
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seems like he has joe johnson disease
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seems like he has joe johnson disease
he remind me of a less talented Rashad McCants except he bigger so i expected more from him -
Elzo69Reloaded wrote: »What were ppl expecting though..it s college bball.. Seldom u see players at major schools put the team on their backs and ball out. But the improvement from the freshman to the sophomore is there. Ppl acting like his issues cannot be fixed. ? it only took D Rose a couple of seasons as a pro to find a jumper.
LoL @ u comparing the issues Rose had with the issues Barnes has ....
I knew Rose was special when I saw the "highlights" of his first game at Memphis, I told myself "dude can't be ? wit" ....
this Barnes fella was used by the media and now he's being spit out like bad food ....
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Elzo69Reloaded wrote: »What were ppl expecting though..it s college bball.. Seldom u see players at major schools put the team on their backs and ball out. But the improvement from the freshman to the sophomore is there. Ppl acting like his issues cannot be fixed. ? it only took D Rose a couple of seasons as a pro to find a jumper.
LoL @ u comparing the issues Rose had with the issues Barnes has ....
I knew Rose was special when I saw the "highlights" of his first game at Memphis, I told myself "dude can't be ? wit" ....
this Barnes fella was used by the media and now he's being spit out like bad food ....
? i been knowing Drose since he was in 8th grade( when we all said he going to the league), he kicked our ass in bball when he was in 8th grade. 2 I was alluding to the fact that like Rose, Barnes issues can be fixed w some time in the gym. If Rose had not gotten that jumper. He d never been MVP and etc... -
Barnes has far more issues than Rose
His offensive game is limited to his step back jumper and he does nothing else
With high praise comes high expectations and he turned out to be less than underwhelming
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