So if Kevin Love's team had Dirk Nowitski's current team's record...
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He still wouldnt be a top 7 guy in the league ...
KD
Lebron
Kobe
Rose
Wade
Howard...
cuz he's white, right?
(Racists, ? , ? & haters alike please hit the Wack, No-Sign, and Feelings like I expect you to)
The rest discuss...
KD
Lebron
Kobe
Rose
Wade
Howard...
cuz he's white, right?
(Racists, ? , ? & haters alike please hit the Wack, No-Sign, and Feelings like I expect you to)
The rest discuss...
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Make this thread again when the T-Wolves make a serious run
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Doesnt the thread title imply his actual team record is ? ?Craig Robinson wrote: »Make this thread again when the T-Wolves make a serious run
but the facts are his stats...
Edit: I had to give you the co-sign tho. That will win in any argument vs Kevin Love. -
Patience, Dirk got no props early on either
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Unless that's your point
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Craig Robinson wrote: »Patience, Dirk got no props early on either
but ever since his early days he's been on 50 and 60 game winning teams every season it seems.. Dirk only got ? for not showing up in the playoffs til last year.
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What exactly are you saying here? Leave records out of it. Dont list any one else's name. Just plainly say what it is you are insinuating
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What exactly are you saying here? Leave records out of it. Dont list any one else's name. Just plainly say what it is you are insinuating
is he a top 7 individual player in the league period?
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Top 7 is a strange number, but I'd say for this season he's easily one of the best players
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I wouldnt put Love above any of those guys if he led the wolves to a 29-22 record, only way he should be mentioned as top 7 is if his team makes the playoffs and he puts up the numbers hes putting up now but wins at least a couple series while doing it
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Why does he have to win anything ? Because you are on a winning team does not make you a better player than anyone. That's not the tiebreaker I'm figuring out who is a better player.
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Because those 7 players consistently have there teams contending, while Love hasnt even made the playoffs yet, you cant say hes top 7 "yet", you cant even say hes better than Dirk, you remember the things being said about Dirk during the playoff run last year? I didnt agree with any of it, but I do believe you can say hes the best power forward in the league because of what he did in the playoffs, and hes come very close to having two rings, if anything he should be mentioned in the top 7.
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Ok. But if you use that argument to justify who gets ranked ahead of who, then it has to apply across the board. You can't just pick and choose which cases you want to apply it to. Is Rondo better than Rose or Deron or Paul simply because he has a ring? Pierce better than Durant? No. That's ridiculous to think that. So if if it isn't going to be applied to everyone then it shouldnt be applied at all.
An I think he was saying is he a top 7 player Right Now. Not last year or years past. But at this very moment. If you start bringing up historical ? , then you have to start including Duncan, Nash, Garnett guys like that in the conversation. Which we all know is stupid -
lol at me checking the standings yesterday and they only 11th
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Love is hands down the best PF in the league.
But, ? record (which isn't that bad...they're only 2.5 games out of the 8 spot) or not, he's not bettert than any of those guys you mentioned....Durant maybe, but that's as far as I'm getting. -
ya'lll acting like his team is Stacked and that they're still Losing
Their 2nd Best player is ? Ridnour or Pekovic ...that team stinks i dont care what nobody says he dont have much to work with
the talent is there but the players with it are a bunch of incomplete players "Just with talent" , go down that entire list of players on the Wolves roster and tell me who's a real threat besides Kevin Love?
i could understand if they were still losing if they had Thunder or Heat type talent , but that roster is filled with average at best players -
dont really care how their losing or the reason for it....point is they're losing
If you take Love off the team, they're not a playoff team....leave him on and they're still not a playoff team.
Phoenix, Utah, Denver, Houston, and Memphis are in front of them in the standings and none of those teams have a Kevin Love
top 7 player at least got his team in there as the 8th seed -
Too many ? on the Wolves.
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lol. is that really how talent is evaluated? Danny Granger is better than Kevin Love? Lou Williams is better than Deron Williams
if you aint on a playoff team, then you aint better than anyone who is in the playoffs? -
ilol. is that really how talent is evaluated? Danny Granger is better than Kevin Love? Lou Williams is better than Deron Williams
if you aint on a playoff team, then you aint better than anyone who is in the playoffs?
show proof of anybody saying that -
You ranked players and the criteria you used was how good their teams are
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Love IMO plays for suck ass team but still the best PF in the league he playing better than any PF in the League right now this season @ this very moment. I cant put Dirk ahead of him @ this moment its not who winning championships in the past its who playing the best basketball right now. I seen Love hit GW shots come thru in the clutch but with Rubio out theres only so much Love can do. He ? out every night
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His skill level is simply not up to par. Mid-range? Average. Post-game? Wack. Man-to-man defense? Wack. Help defense? Wack. Ability to get to the hole? Wack. Passing? Wack. Basically, he sucks or he's average at everything PFs need besides rebounds. He should develop his lateral quickness(for defense reasons) and become one of those spot-up forwards like Peja was back in the day. That's the only he chance he has of ever winning. Becoming the 3rd or 4th option on a contender.
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The best PF is Dirk until further notice. He (with the addition of Terry) beat a more talented team in the Miami Heat comfortably in the finals and his offensive game is complete. Love does nothing better than Dirk except play the rebound formula. -
Love is currently doing more with less talent around him.
That's all he has going for him, because the T'Wolves aren't gonna be anywhere near the playoffs at the end of the year. -
NothingButTheTruth wrote: »His skill level is simply not up to par. Mid-range? Average. Post-game? Wack. Man-to-man defense? Wack. Help defense? Wack. Ability to get to the hole? Wack. Passing? Wack. Basically, he sucks or he's average at everything PFs need besides rebounds. He should develop his lateral quickness(for defense reasons) and become one of those spot-up forwards like Peja was back in the day. That's the only he chance he has of ever winning. Becoming the 3rd or 4th option on a contender.
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The best PF is Dirk until further notice. He (with the addition of Terry) beat a more talented team in the Miami Heat comfortably in the finals and his offensive game is complete. Love does nothing better than Dirk except play the rebound formula.
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Ok. But if you use that argument to justify who gets ranked ahead of who, then it has to apply across the board. You can't just pick and choose which cases you want to apply it to. Is Rondo better than Rose or Deron or Paul simply because he has a ring? Pierce better than Durant? No. That's ridiculous to think that. So if if it isn't going to be applied to everyone then it shouldnt be applied at all.
An I think he was saying is he a top 7 player Right Now. Not last year or years past. But at this very moment. If you start bringing up historical ? , then you have to start including Duncan, Nash, Garnett guys like that in the conversation. Which we all know is stupid
Good point, I guess what im trying to say is the 8 players mentioned (im including Dirk) I think have a better chance at leading a team to a ship than Kevin Love has no matter how great his regular season numbers are, he deserves to be in the argument but until he proves it to me on the biggest stage i'm not going to put him above any of those guys
