As of now, Big Boi >>> Andre 3000 (Titangraph: warning, feelings may be caught)

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  • DRO
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    edited July 2010
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    ....................big boi killed it on these tracks

    ... Ru serious?... Hahaha you picked every song that dre killed big on.... Come on man!
  • Treize117
    Treize117 Members Posts: 1,112
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    ....................big boi killed it on these tracks

    And u think these are examples of Big Boi bein better than Andre?...

    smh...
  • DRO
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    treize117 wrote: »
    and u think these are examples of big boi bein better than andre?...

    Smh...
    hahah exactly what i said!
  • Bwoahmizzee
    Bwoahmizzee Members Posts: 6,962 ✭✭✭
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    thread fail

    no feelings caught
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andre 3k really is the male Lauryn Hill, both are kind of overrated and haven't shown they can make a classic solo rap album. I also agree that overall Big Boi is the better overall artist (same thing for Wyclef), i feel as if Big Boi is the one who kept Outkast centered and ''normal". I respect Dre alot, dude is dope as ? but to be quite honest he doesn't have the solo work to justify the hype, we've seen Big Boi hold down solo rap albums for the most part.
  • DRO
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    usmarin3 wrote: »
    andre 3k really is the male lauryn hill, both are kind of overrated and haven't shown they can make a classic solo rap album. I also agree that overall big boi is the better overall artist (same thing for wyclef), i feel as if big boi is the one who kept outkast centered and ''normal". I respect dre alot, dude is dope as ? but to be quite honest he doesn't have the solo work to justify the hype, we've seen big boi hold down solo rap albums for the most part.
    ..

    And thats the thing... Lauryn and 3000 are bigger than just rap... Lh sold like 7 - 9 mill on her own and u tellin me her album isnt a classic?
  • I'm THAT guy...
    I'm THAT guy... Members Posts: 2,544
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    Why does Big Boi's album have more feature's than the iPhone 4? Does he even have a solo song?
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    not to turn this into an Andre 3000 thread, but...



    it's not a solo album per se, but it ain't like dude don't have no skills or anything...:unno. and that's just one album...


    Holding down a album by yourself is totally different dude, it's easy to bounce ideas off Big Boi. When youre a solo artist you have to spit 2 16 bars, create the hooks, chorus, pick beats,etc on your own. That's why i cannot put Andre on the level of establish dudes level, who the ? did Nas,Jay,Face,Pac,etc have to bounce ideas off of. They didn't have a Big Boi coming up with killer choruses and balance them out.
  • usmarin3
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    ..

    And thats the thing... Lauryn and 3000 are bigger than just rap... Lh sold like 7 - 9 mill on her own and u tellin me her album isnt a classic?



    Classic r and b album, that ? aint rap. The songs that blew her up were all r and b songs (that thing, everything is everything, ex factor).
  • goat334
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    Ya'll trippin about some features...............
  • goat334
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    as Dro already said in here...The Love Below is the album that made Speakerboxxx/The Love Below go diamond...I'm not sayin it was a hip hop album, but dude knows production, has the lyrical ability, and has already hit it out the park once before...

    and as I already said, he's in plenty of people's Top 5s and Top 10s. how many people do YOU know that hold Big Boi in that same regard??

    no diss to Big Boi

    I dont' do that top 10 or 5......cause Kast is my favorite group, I think they are the best so if I had a top 10 or 5.....Big would be #1 or 2......
  • usmarin3
    usmarin3 Members Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    as Dro already said in here...The Love Below is the album that made Speakerboxxx/The Love Below go diamond...I'm not sayin it was a hip hop album, but dude knows production, has the lyrical ability, and has already hit it out the park once before...

    and as I already said, he's in plenty of people's Top 5s and Top 10s. how many people do YOU know that hold Big Boi in that same regard??

    no diss to Big Boi



    Well maybe one day when he applies all this knowledge to a HIPHOP album i will respect it, but until then he will be overrated to me. I think alot of people are giving him the benefit of the doubt based on his potential to make a great rap album but potential doesn't mean ? . See Bun B!
  • Mumo X
    Mumo X Banned Users Posts: 4,521 ✭✭
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    gman82 wrote: »
    Dre>Big Boi. Close thread

    Cosign. Plus i've never heard a wack verse from Andre 3k while the same cant be said for Big Boi. Clearly Andre 3K wuz rippin every track in the 90s & most importantly had the better verses in Aquemini,Atliens & Southplayalistic and every other Outkast record.Jus cuz Big Boi dropped a dope record dont mean that he's a better Emcee than 3K. To me Big Boi is jus like Raekwon.an emcee who has been able to hold his own in a dope group but not as talented as other emcees in the respective group. Dre>>>>Big Boi by a country mile.
  • hnic1978
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    I'm gonna guess nobody is goin to question big boi's skills and ablilties on here. No doubt Big Boi is a beast on the mic and it wouldn't be disputed if he's in some cats top 10. He doesn't do one thing great, he does a lot of things good.....damn good. But in 3 stack's case how many times have you heard a way out 3k song or when you heard his name say WTF and later like that track. I don't know about u but since the ? been out i have been constantly doing that. 3 stacks is one of the best ARTISTS out there in addition to being a dope ass rapper. To all these cats thats talkin about overrated answer me this how can you overrate quality. The reason we rate 3stacks so high is because we have NEVER heard him come weak. I agree with the Speakerboxx/Love Below convo that with Big Boi makes it platinum, but 3 stacks makes it Diamond. I tell you what if 3 stack EVER comes out with a strictly rap solo album he will ? the game.
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    "jamacia" just don't like dre

    I like Dre he is just overrated "meatwad"
    ohhh thattttss what it is..... I knew he was a hater..

    No hate here
  • lamontbdc
    lamontbdc Members Posts: 18,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this new big boi album is nice i haven't really heard 3 stacks go in in a long time but i liked big boi better when they 1st dropped but after elevators it was 3 stacks
  • rip.dilla
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    "But until they close the curtain...it's him & I Aquemini..."
  • TrueGodHS
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    Andre 3000 is the greatest MC of all time to me, but.... he needs to do something.... ? is mad lazy, but then again, let me go Diamond and get some money and I'd be like ? rap too... hell that's what im striving now ? lol

    I havent heard the Big Boi album yet though and I will always prefer Dre, but I love Big Boi
  • DB Cooper
    DB Cooper Members Posts: 746
    edited July 2010
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    i been saying big boi is better since love below/speakerboxxx
  • BobOblah
    BobOblah Members Posts: 9,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nah. Dre 3000 is better to me. But the fact that Big Boi has now dropped an incredible solo album does move him up in the ranks. If Dre doesn't continue to make music, and Big Boi does then there may be more of a case for saying Big Boi is better. but as of now I still think Dre is better.

    Don't get me wrong though I don't underestimate Big Boi. I've had Big Boi's album on repeat for days and I did a thread called "name another rapper that could do a 100 tracks keeping up with Andre 3000" to show that hardly anyone is ? with Big Boi
  • Old Fart
    Old Fart Members Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭
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    When everybody talks about great southern rappers, 3 Stacks is always on the list. He is respected by rappers and peers alike. I have also seen him in many people's Top 10 (even Top 5). But yet nobody gives as much respect to his partner, Big Boi.

    Yes, people will say 3 Stacks is the better rapper, and has been the better group member. And while I can agree with that, let's not act like he's light years better than Big Boi. IMO it's closer than most people think. As a group, I give it 55%-45% in favor of 3 Stacks. In the 90's, 3 Stacks >>> Big Boi.

    But from 2000 - present, you can make a case for Big Boi being better than Andre. In fact, Stankonia was a tie for me. And everything after that, Big Boi >>>>. He has stayed consistently great, while 3 Stacks has really fluctuate. He has been a hit or miss. Also, Big Boi has put in alot more work than Andre has. With Speakerboxxxx/Love Below, Big Boi finished his side really quickly, while Andre took forever to finish his part. 3 Stacks work ethic has beenvery ? compared to that of Big Boi. Still, you could have said that 3 Stacks had the slight advantage...

    Until now. Big Boi's new debut solo album has been leaked, and it's a great ? album. I've been playing it non-stop and I will be coppin it when it drops on Tuesday. And this is what gives Big Boi the advantage. Yes Andre has been slightly better as a member of Outkast (and Big Boi is actually right behind him), Big Boi has dropped a very dope album and has proven himself as a solo artist. Andre hasn't released a solo album. He hasn't proven that he can drop a dope album without the help of his partner. Big Boi has. And yes it is a big deal. If a rapper can't prove himself as a credible solo artist, then I have a hard time placing him above somebody that has. It's like in wrestling: if 2 wrestlers are a great tag team, but the inferior member of the team turns out to be a great solo wrestler, he should be placed above a wrestler who is a tag team specialist but hasn't proven himself as a solo wrestler.

    I'm not putting down 3 Stacks, he is a great rapper and the better member of Outkast (marginally). But until he drops a very dope solo album, Big Boi >>>
    i agree BB and Dre are closer than people say. But i say 60-40 in favor of Dre. it's closer than Treach and Vinnie in N by N (i got Treach 85-15 in that one). But as far as the solo album thing, Speakerboxx/Love below was 2 solo albums just packaged together. so i disagree with your claim of Dre never doing a solo album with his own vibe. Ironically though, I thought SpeakerBoxx was better than Love Below...even though i think Dre is the better rapper in the group. Problem is, Love Below wasn't a rap album. Save for a couple of songs I wasn't feeling that singing ? from OutKast when I was hoping for another Southernplayalistic classic...which it wasn't to me
  • FyHunnit
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    B-I-G BOI - top 5 DOA .


    I'm glad this thread was made ...
  • HipHopFiend91
    HipHopFiend91 Members Posts: 2,394
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    dre on southerplaylistic and atliens>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the dre that got brainwashed by badu

    big boi word play be going over peoples heads.

    big boi is my top 25 so is andre.
  • c.b.b.
    c.b.b. Members Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2011
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    what r u confused about?..
    Yes, stankonia was the only album that big outdid dre on..
    If it wasnt for dre, they wouldnt have a diamond album
    the way u move, reset, and ghettomusic...and ill give u a freebee, were the only good songs on speakerbox

    "Tick Tick Boom" "Tomb Of The Boom" "Last Call" "Flip Flop Rock" & "Unhappy" were all dope to me
  • L.P. Royal Flush
    L.P. Royal Flush Members Posts: 770
    edited June 2011
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    lol, Big Boi will NEVER be lyrically better than 3000, no matter what album, Big Boi has never outshined 3000