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lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »
^^^^.... Really???
An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.
You defined alcohol and gasoline......
However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category.... -
the wisdom of the drunken fist
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lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »
^^^^.... Really???
An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.
You defined alcohol and gasoline......
However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category....
Furthermore explain that cannabis is an intoxicant to the cannabinoid receptors throughout your body...
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lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »
^^^^.... Really???
An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.
You defined alcohol and gasoline......
However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category....
Furthermore explain that cannabis is an intoxicant to the cannabinoid receptors throughout your body...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpV6licCOMw
i am dr (man is ? so its his birth right to create ) however most strands are hybrid and in a unnatural state , can you determine whether or not what your smoking is organic? has it been sprayed ect , if so it is makrooh -
if your getting stoned to be azawajal (everything is allah including plants even jinn ) it is halal if your smoking to go do haram it is despised and allah knows your heart insha this helps
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I AM NOT AGAINST PLANT WORSHIP OR JINN
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EVEN QURAN SAYS THERE ARE MUSLIM JINN;S
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Nice diversion^^^^^
However, the debate is about the incorrect classification of cannabis as Khamr... -
yes we do not Zazen. to be closer to allaah we Zazen. to become allaah insha this helps
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Nice diversion^^^^^
However, the debate is about the incorrect classification of cannabis as Khamr...
show me ahad (one) hadith or verse from quraan that exalts your premise -
^^^ Thanks for defining Khimaar...
However....
Khamr (Arab., ‘fermented drink, wine’). Intoxicants forbidden (haram) in Islam. In Qurʾān 5. 90–1/93–4, wine is linked with gambling and divination with arrows as an abominable creation of Satan. Khamr was extended by Muḥammad to include every intoxicant (not just wine), and trading in khamr is forbidden, as is its exchange as a gift. If it was proved that tobacco is always harmful, it would be prohibited; and many Muslims already regard it as in that category. In contrast, 47. 15/16 states that in the Garden are ‘rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink’. But in the Garden, those who are safe are beyond being diverted from their adoration of ? . See also ALCOHOL; OMAR KHAYYAM.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O101-Khamr.html
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^^^ Thanks for defining Khimaar...
However....
Khamr (Arab., ‘fermented drink, wine’). Intoxicants forbidden (haram) in Islam. In Qurʾān 5. 90–1/93–4, wine is linked with gambling and divination with arrows as an abominable creation of Satan. Khamr was extended by Muḥammad to include every intoxicant (not just wine), and trading in khamr is forbidden, as is its exchange as a gift. If it was proved that tobacco is always harmful, it would be prohibited; and many Muslims already regard it as in that category. In contrast, 47. 15/16 states that in the Garden are ‘rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink’. But in the Garden, those who are safe are beyond being diverted from their adoration of ? . See also ALCOHOL; OMAR KHAYYAM.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O101-Khamr.html
the deen of islam is la ilaha il allah muhammadan rasulalaah
you know more of quraan than rasul allah ? la samah allah !!! -
rasul alaah says khamr is all intoxicant but you should know that that is not the quran of muhammad its quran of uthman the sahaba
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Look ..... I asked a question and you made preposterous accusations regarding cannabis.....
1. Prove that cannabis is an intoxicant
2. Prove that cannabis is classified as Khamr
You can do neither sir..... do not waste your time!!! -
Look ..... I asked a question and you made preposterous accusations regarding cannabis.....
1. Prove that cannabis is an intoxicant
2. Prove that cannabis is classified as Khamr
You can do neither sir..... do not waste your time!!!
it is intoxicant according to quran and sunnah
however habib anee (i) do not follow that quran nor the sunnah of wahabi and persians -
^^^^ Again, an intoxicant is a substance that is poisonous when ingested.
So anyone making this claim is either misinformed or bearing false witness...... -
subhana wa ta'ala knows your heartLook ..... I asked a question and you made preposterous accusations regarding cannabis.....
1. Prove that cannabis is an intoxicant
2. Prove that cannabis is classified as Khamr
You can do neither sir..... do not waste your time!!! -
^^^^ Again, an intoxicant is a substance that is poisonous when ingested.
So anyone making this claim is either misinformed or bearing false witness......
YOUR SMOKING IT !! DO YOU THINK SMOKING IS HEALTHY???? it is polluting your body !! its makrooh !!! it may benefit when not being smoked ! or perhaps vaporized -
lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »^^^^ Again, an intoxicant is a substance that is poisonous when ingested.
So anyone making this claim is either misinformed or bearing false witness......
YOUR SMOKING IT !! DO YOU THINK SMOKING IS HEALTHY???? it is polluting your body !! its makrooh !!! it may benefit when not being smoked ! or perhaps vaporized
Or ingested.....
Thank you for the clarity brother....
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lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »^^^^ Again, an intoxicant is a substance that is poisonous when ingested.
So anyone making this claim is either misinformed or bearing false witness......
YOUR SMOKING IT !! DO YOU THINK SMOKING IS HEALTHY???? it is polluting your body !! its makrooh !!! it may benefit when not being smoked ! or perhaps vaporized
Or ingested.....
Thank you for the clarity brother....
ya habib ! salam u alykum allahu hafiz -
wa khaliqona wa raziqona wa huwa ala kuli shain qadeer
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lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »salam u alykum wa ramatulahi wa barakatuhu
the short answer ( iwill answer this a second time later) is that the quran of the prophet ( s.a.w ) is not the quran you read today the ayatollah's still have the hidden quran hidden amongst the wise men the quran you see today was written by the companion uthman by in which the other companions by in large rejected (for a number of reasons)
those are blatant lies. Usman (r.a.) didnt write the Quran he only arranged the verses (that were already in existence) in the order they are in the Quran. In short, he gave "structure" to the Quran. -
Jaded Righteousness wrote: »Why do Muslims claim that Muhammad couldn't write or read (insinuating that for this reason, Allah could be the only author responsible) when everyone understands that the Quran was passed down ? from Muhammad and was not written down until after his death by followers who remembered the lessons?
That is absolutely false. The Quran WAS being written down as it was being revealed to the Prophet (saw). The Prophet (saw) had two scribes (I can post their names if u want more info) who were with him at all times who wrote down the verses as they were being revealed to the Prophet (saw). The oral tradition of the Quran is true yet it is just another way to solidify the accuracy of it.
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I got 2 questions. And by no means is this an attack of any kind. Just questions.
1. If Muhammad was truly a man ? , then why was he married to a child ( Aisha) when she 6 years old and consummated the marriage when she was 9?
2. Why is slavery and sex slavery allowed?
There are some other questions I have, but these were the first off the top of my head
Peace
1) that is taken from a hadith (that some consider weak). other hadiths put the age of Aisha (r.a.) around 19/20 at the time of marriage/consummation. Hadiths that were on matters of faith tended to be scrutinized more thoroughly while hadith on other issues were not (however were still included amongst the hadiths if there was some reliable chain of narrators).
2) slavery is NOT allowed (there are numerous Quranic and Prophetic injunctions that call for freeing of slaves). however, slavery was a prevalent practice in the world at the time. in order to remove it one has to look at it from the perspective of ? 's wisdom. The best way to get rid of an action is to work to remove that ideology from the hearts of its believers. In essence the Quran called for the freeing of slaves but to implement this ideology it started by granting unheard of rights to slaves. For example, if one had a slave the slave was to be treated as an equal (given the same food as its "owner," provided with the same level of clothing, etc). Basically in order to get rid of slavery the Quran (through ? 's wisdom) sought to humanize the slaves. If you were taught to love your fellow man as an equal how could you envision enslaving them? -
lostsamuraisotaku wrote: »Welcome back from your incarceration brother.....
Any mention of cannabis in the Qur'an?
salam u alykum wa ramatulahi wa barakatuhu
smoking and devouring strong drink is makrooh according to the sunnah
"Khamr" is what befogs the mind
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Every intoxicant is prohibited.” Sahih al-Bukhari, no. 4088)
And he (Allah bless him & give him peace) also said:
“That which intoxicates in large quantities is prohibited in small quantities.” (Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ibn Majah, and others, with a sound chain of narrators)
insha this helps
Indeed.....
However, the word used in the Koran itself is khamr - which means "fermented grape" - and this classification doesn't cover the use of cannabis....
Islam has generally condemned the use of marijuana; the religion regards the use of any intoxicants as haraam. Sufism (the mystical offshoot of Islam) takes a somewhat different view. This religion believes in knowing ? through ecstatic states of mind, and widespread history of marijuana use has been recorded in Sufi culture over the centuries. Indeed, in one Persian folk tale, the founder of Sufism, a monk called Haydar, was the first Persian to discover marijuana. Out walking in the midst of a depressed mood, he came across the marijuana plant and ate several of its leaves. Finding his mood immediately and dramatically improved, he returned to the monastery and recommended that his brother monks should try it too!
helal ottur, gunah yoktur
this is categorically untrue. true sufism follows the sunnah and therefore would absolutely prohibit any use of intoxicants. the first sufi was not a monk called haydar. Sufism's roots go back to the time of the Prophet (saw).
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