Tyrant, Mephisto, Shuma, SB Prime, Dormammu,Modru, Annihilus + Wave team up and head to Marvel Earth
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Obviously Avengers, X-men, Eternals, etc.. can get help along with others you might think of. No infinity gems, no UN available.
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Isn't Shuma technically unbeatable, the only thing you can do is send him back to his dimension.
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Theres nothing they can do. But theres also no way some of those names would work together
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Shuma by himself does this, as can Tyrant, Dormammu, and possibly SB Prime, together with no PIS or plot protection, they wipe them out in less than 3 seconds.
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oh we gon act like Reed Richards, wont unlock his son's mental blocks, if ? hit the fan THAT bad.......
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oh we gon act like Reed Richards, wont unlock his son's mental blocks, if ? hit the fan THAT bad.......
Franklin cant ? with some of those names
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I HATE...HATE the idea of superboy prime...a ? concept to have someone stronger than supes...well villain wise...its a lame concept.
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Shuma Solo's Marvel Universe 616 Not Just Earth
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SB Prime Gets Sonned By Silver Surfer...Dude Is Overrated By DC Fanboys
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bcotton2000@yahoo.co wrote: »
bruh............
Franklin Richards has been stated to be an Omega Level Mutant.Franklin Richards is a mutant with vast psionic powers. When Franklin achieves the conscious use of his full powers, he will have telepathic powers, tremendous telekinetic powers, the ability to fire enormously powerful energy blasts, and the ability to rearrange the molecular structure of matter and energy, even up to a cosmic scale. His powers are so great that he has been compared to the Celestials, although it is said to be even greater than them, rather than other mutants. This accusation is made by Doctor Doom. He has enough power to even scare Galactus.
In terms of unrealized potential and young age, Franklin Richards is considered to be the most powerful Earth-bound character in the Marvel Universe.
Reality Manipulation (latent): Ability to manipulate reality in cosmic level and vast reality warping powers on a potentially infinite level. His abilities are so great that even at such a young age he can create “pocket” universes in alternate realities (A pocket universe is a cosmos that does not equal our own in size.). After regaining his powers from a temporary loss, the first thing Franklin did with his nigh unlimited powers was to create a Universe, easily.
Molecular Manipulation: Ability to re-arrange molecules up to a cosmic scale.
Telepathy (latent): One of the most powerful telepaths, he can read minds and project his own thoughts into the minds of others within an unlimited radius. His notable abilities include:
Telepathic Illusion: Ability to create realistic telepathic illusions and cause people to experience events which are not actually occurring.
Telepathic Cloak: Can mask his presence from being detected by others. He can extend these defenses to others around him as well.
Mind Link: Ability to develop a mental link with any person which remains as a connection to that individual.
Telepathic Camouflage: Ability to mask himself, and other peoples' presence from those around him. Can telepathically disguise himself, making his appearance to those around him quite different than what they actually are, for example, changing the appearance of clothing, as well as more detailed disguising.
Mind Control: Ability to control the minds of others.
Mind Possession: Ability to possess the mind of another and use that being's body as his own.
Mind Alteration: Ability to alter the minds of others by force of will.
Mental Amnesia: Ability to cause loss of particular memories and amnesia in another person or even in a group of people.
Psionic Shield: Ability to ? a psychic shield for protection of himself and of others' minds.
Psionic Blasts: Can project psionic force bolts which have no physical effects but which can affect a victim's mind so as to cause the victim pain or unconsciousness and can even ? an adversary.
Astral Projection: Ability to Astral Travel and communicate with others astrally through his own will, or through contact with the thoughts and memories of others. In the astral realm, he can use his powers to create "ectoplasmic" objects.
Mental Detection: Can sense the presence of other superhuman mutants within a small but as yet undefined radius of himself by perceiving the distinctive mental radiations emitted by such a being.
Mind Transferal: Able to transfer both his mind and powers into other host bodies should his own physical body be somehow killed.
Telekinesis (latent): Possesses telekinetic abilities enabling him to levitate and manipulate living beings, inanimate objects, and to some extent energy psionically. He can “lift” as much as 10 tons of weight at such an undeveloped age and potentially an unlimited amount of weight. This enables him to “fly” at great speed.
Bio-Blasts:Ability to fire enormously powerful energy blasts which he generates from his body's extrasensory potential.
Precognitive Dreams (latent): Precognitive abilities, which manifest themselves in his dreams, enabling him to envision possible future events. Although there are countless possible futures, Franklin foresees the most probable future path, and therefore his predictions usually come true. Franklin seemingly cannot foresee events more than roughly a few days in the future. Franklin's precognitive power developed to the point at which he could see images of future events when conscious.
Dream-Self Projection (latent): Ability to place himself in a trance-like state while remaining fully conscious. While he is in this trance, he can project an intangible, ghostlike image of himself to another location, through which he can see and hear what goes on at the location. What Franklin has called the “dreams” he has while in this state are not truly dreams, but his conscious awareness of the environment into which he has projected his “dream-self.”
Franklin Richards has imposed mental blocks within his own mind to prevent him from using most of his psionic potential while he is still such a young child. It is possible that the strength of these blocks has faded over time, or that they cannot prevent him from utilizing his full powers unconsciously, as he did in creating the alternate reality to which he dispatched his parents and others following their clash with Onslaught. The mental blocks also work only when Franklin is in his physical body; his astral form can apparently use all of his psionic potential if it has separated from his physical form.
The mental blocks did not restrict Franklin from using his precognitive abilities, which manifest themselves in his dreams, enabling him to envision possible future events.
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That Devil's Advocacy meeting dimension set up by Living Tribunal reminded me of that meeting of the Splinter Realms to deal with Archenemy and also the first time I've seen Mephisto and Dormmy team up with Magik (Amanda S. version). Cool to see Shuma, Chthon, Mephisto, Blackheart, Dormmy, Cyttorak, etc., appear in same comic.
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what book was this in?
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Hope summers also makes this intrestings
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Gonna add dr doom also his magic powers potential is otherworldly
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Shuma Dormammu and Cytorrak are above Celestial level^^^^^
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bcotton2000@yahoo.co wrote: »
bruh............
Franklin Richards has been stated to be an Omega Level Mutant.Franklin Richards is a mutant with vast psionic powers. When Franklin achieves the conscious use of his full powers, he will have telepathic powers, tremendous telekinetic powers, the ability to fire enormously powerful energy blasts, and the ability to rearrange the molecular structure of matter and energy, even up to a cosmic scale. His powers are so great that he has been compared to the Celestials, although it is said to be even greater than them, rather than other mutants. This accusation is made by Doctor Doom. He has enough power to even scare Galactus.
In terms of unrealized potential and young age, Franklin Richards is considered to be the most powerful Earth-bound character in the Marvel Universe.
Reality Manipulation (latent): Ability to manipulate reality in cosmic level and vast reality warping powers on a potentially infinite level. His abilities are so great that even at such a young age he can create “pocket” universes in alternate realities (A pocket universe is a cosmos that does not equal our own in size.). After regaining his powers from a temporary loss, the first thing Franklin did with his nigh unlimited powers was to create a Universe, easily.
Molecular Manipulation: Ability to re-arrange molecules up to a cosmic scale.
Telepathy (latent): One of the most powerful telepaths, he can read minds and project his own thoughts into the minds of others within an unlimited radius. His notable abilities include:
Telepathic Illusion: Ability to create realistic telepathic illusions and cause people to experience events which are not actually occurring.
Telepathic Cloak: Can mask his presence from being detected by others. He can extend these defenses to others around him as well.
Mind Link: Ability to develop a mental link with any person which remains as a connection to that individual.
Telepathic Camouflage: Ability to mask himself, and other peoples' presence from those around him. Can telepathically disguise himself, making his appearance to those around him quite different than what they actually are, for example, changing the appearance of clothing, as well as more detailed disguising.
Mind Control: Ability to control the minds of others.
Mind Possession: Ability to possess the mind of another and use that being's body as his own.
Mind Alteration: Ability to alter the minds of others by force of will.
Mental Amnesia: Ability to cause loss of particular memories and amnesia in another person or even in a group of people.
Psionic Shield: Ability to ? a psychic shield for protection of himself and of others' minds.
Psionic Blasts: Can project psionic force bolts which have no physical effects but which can affect a victim's mind so as to cause the victim pain or unconsciousness and can even ? an adversary.
Astral Projection: Ability to Astral Travel and communicate with others astrally through his own will, or through contact with the thoughts and memories of others. In the astral realm, he can use his powers to create "ectoplasmic" objects.
Mental Detection: Can sense the presence of other superhuman mutants within a small but as yet undefined radius of himself by perceiving the distinctive mental radiations emitted by such a being.
Mind Transferal: Able to transfer both his mind and powers into other host bodies should his own physical body be somehow killed.
Telekinesis (latent): Possesses telekinetic abilities enabling him to levitate and manipulate living beings, inanimate objects, and to some extent energy psionically. He can “lift” as much as 10 tons of weight at such an undeveloped age and potentially an unlimited amount of weight. This enables him to “fly” at great speed.
Bio-Blasts:Ability to fire enormously powerful energy blasts which he generates from his body's extrasensory potential.
Precognitive Dreams (latent): Precognitive abilities, which manifest themselves in his dreams, enabling him to envision possible future events. Although there are countless possible futures, Franklin foresees the most probable future path, and therefore his predictions usually come true. Franklin seemingly cannot foresee events more than roughly a few days in the future. Franklin's precognitive power developed to the point at which he could see images of future events when conscious.
Dream-Self Projection (latent): Ability to place himself in a trance-like state while remaining fully conscious. While he is in this trance, he can project an intangible, ghostlike image of himself to another location, through which he can see and hear what goes on at the location. What Franklin has called the “dreams” he has while in this state are not truly dreams, but his conscious awareness of the environment into which he has projected his “dream-self.”
Franklin Richards has imposed mental blocks within his own mind to prevent him from using most of his psionic potential while he is still such a young child. It is possible that the strength of these blocks has faded over time, or that they cannot prevent him from utilizing his full powers unconsciously, as he did in creating the alternate reality to which he dispatched his parents and others following their clash with Onslaught. The mental blocks also work only when Franklin is in his physical body; his astral form can apparently use all of his psionic potential if it has separated from his physical form.
The mental blocks did not restrict Franklin from using his precognitive abilities, which manifest themselves in his dreams, enabling him to envision possible future events.
http://marvel.wikia.com/Franklin_Richards_(Earth-616)
That's Cute An All But Franklin Aint Beating Half Those Names On Some One On One ? Let Alone All Of Them....Hes Lower Tier Celestial Level At Best.....Like Cotton Said...Shuma Cyttrorakk Dom And Im Gonna Throw In Mephisto Would Mop The Floor With Young Richards
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Shuma Eats Universes Like Snacks Breh....
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Hope summers with the pheonix, plus borrowing from franklin, logans healing plus any combo of powers she wants.....it aint pretty
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Hope summers with the pheonix, plus borrowing from franklin, logans healing plus any combo of powers she wants.....it aint pretty
Thats Like Shooting A Tank With A Pellet Gun.....I Dont Think Yall Understand How Beastly These Cats Are....Phoenix, X-Man, Franklin, ? -Cable All The Omega Level Mutants , The Asgardian Pantheon Is Fleas To These Dudes.....It Would Infinity, Oblivion, Living Tribunal Type ? To Bring Down This Squad
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Give Batman time to prepare and he trashes them all lol.
But seriously, if you wanna straight-up box Shuma.............you better hope your last name is "Morningstar", ? .
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Oblivion is ? beast though lol. They just revealed that the same Mikaboshi (Chaos King) who almost consumed the entire multiverse during the Chaos War was just an aspect of Oblivion!
More explanation
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Sorry, but this is a pretty ridiculous topic. There is nothing Marvel Earth could do against those odds. Even Franklin Richards wouldn't make a difference. He's done some amazing things, but he's never managed to use his powers against beings like these and turn them away.
Annhilus and his wave alone would be overkill. It took a solar system busting temper tantrum from Galactus to do enough damage to the Annihilation Wave for the heroes to triumph. -
Squirrel Girl pwns all up to TOAA. Ok let's not have her in this discussion lol. Damn these mofos are heavy hitters. Since we can't use the IG or UN, other artifacts are open play. I'd say surprise attack would solo Earth in a picosec. But if Earth inhabitants had time to play with, I would say the Earth heroes and villains would eventually have to team-up. I don't think Shuma (or most of these guys) can be destroyed, just bfr'd. To be fair, Shuma has been banished by Doctor Strange or Sise-Neg before. Doctor Strange damn near stalemated an IG-equipped Adam Warlock using his talismans and artifacts. He does wonderful solo vs but he's gotta deal with Mordru, Dormmy, Shuma, and Mephisto.
You gonna need a situation with a multiversal buster like CB with Sword of Might and Amulet of Right. But that's too obscure. I think Earth heroes like Reed will call for help from likely and unlike sources like Silver Surfer (+ Big G and other heralds), Nova Corps, Eternals, Thanos, etc...so in theory if we stretch, they could have a strong countervailing force if given some time, but is it enough?
Basically Mikaboshi, the Chaos King, was just a part of Oblivion all along. Even that part managed to make Death herself flee, pwns numerous Underword and overworld pantheons and consumed something like 98% of the entire multiverse but was still stopped by a nerdy Asian kid and a perrenially underachieving demigod. Who would you guys consider the weakest link out of that
group of villains. Let's say it's full-powered Tyrant; Superboy Prime from Countdown (the version that took on Monarch); classic Mordru.
But I agree that Franklin Richards himself would not be much of a factor.
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the only way Marvel Earth stands a chance is if Franklin is operating with no mental blocks. He's more powerful than any of those guys
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Annhilus and his wave alone would be overkill. It took a solar system busting temper tantrum from Galactus to do enough damage to the Annihilation Wave for the heroes to triumph.[/quote]The Lonious Monk wrote: »Sorry, but this is a pretty ridiculous topic. There is nothing Marvel Earth could do against those odds. Even Franklin Richards wouldn't make a difference. He's done some amazing things, but he's never managed to use his powers against beings like these and turn them away.
Franklin is more powerful than Galactus. Galactus will become his herald in the future
