? BIRTH OF JESUS THE CHRIST DEBUNKED

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lostsamuraisotaku
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  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    find out why luke the 3rd chapter is not and cannot be mary the mother of jesus's genealogy ^^
  • waterproof
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    man just stop it, stop causing confusion with this Heli and Jacob madness and the curse of jeconiah, i am to tired to deal with this ? today and stop it with this pagan birth thing.

    SMH, you act like you is a rabbi and ? instead of teaching and breaking down the science you go to you tube with all this confusion.

    you snake you can't hide your wickedness
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    @r&r and @waterproof :) (lol)

    essentially there were 2 different jeconiahs the cursed and , the not so cursed (lol)

    1 chronicles 3:15

    And the sons of Josiah were, the firstborn Johanan, the second Jehoiakim, the third Zedekiah, the fourth Shallum.


    jesus the christ (yissiyah , yeshua yahawashi yahushua ) ect or w.e you call him as we know geneology is listed in ze book of Mathew (mittenyahu)

    the christian apologists state that the jeconiah in the book of mathew is the cursed jeconiah thus the need for the ? birth (because no one from the cursed jeconiah can sit on ze throne ) buttttt , there's a hole in this theory
    mathew chapter 1:11 says
    11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon:


    YOU SEE THE CURSED JECONIAH WAS THE SON OF JEHOIAKIM THE SECOND SON OF KING JOSIAH ..

    BUT THE BOOK OF MATHEW 1:11 LISTS JECONIAH AFTER JOSIAH BUT DOESENT LIST JEHOIAKIM (JECONIAHS FATHER ) WHY IS THIS?? THE APOLOGISTS ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN THIS BUT THEY FAIL TO MENTION THAT MATHEW CH 1:11 SAYS And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren THE CURSED JECONIAH HAD ONLY ONE BROTHER NOT BRETHREN !!

    WOW !!

    SO THIS CANNOT BE TALKING ABOUT HIM SO WHO IS IT SPEAKING OF YOU ASK?? (SINCE KING JOSIAH DID NOT HAVE A SON NAMED JECONIAH WHO IS IT ???

    MATHEW 1 CH : 11 SAYS And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon



    REMEMBER WHEN JUDAH WENT INTO BABYLON ALL THEIR NAMES WERE CHANGED NO DIFFERENT FOR THE SONS OF JOSIAH

    (THIS IS EXPLAINED IN DETAIL ON THE VIDEO )

    IE Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego Shadrach, meaning under the command of Aku; Meshach, meaning Who is like Aku?; and Abednego, servant of Nebo.

    THERE NAMES WERE REALLY Hanaiah, which means the Lord shows grace; Mishael, which means Who is like ? ?, and Azariah, which means the Lord helps



    REMEMBER IF JECONIAH IS CURSED THAT MEANS SO WAS ZERRUBBABEL



  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    THE JECONIAH THAT YISSIYAH (JESUS ) DECSENDS FROM IS NOT JECONIAH THE SON OF JEHOIAKIM BUT JECONIAH THE FIRST SON OF JOSIAH CALLED JOHANAN


    1 chronicles 3:15

    And the sons of Josiah were, the firstborn Johanan, the second Jehoiakim, the third Zedekiah, the fourth Shallum.
    INSHA THIS HELPS
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    LOL EVEN THE SCHOLARS LIST ZERRUBBABEL AS THE SON OF JEHOIAKIM (THE CURSED PROGENY ) WHEN THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT ZERRUBBABELS ; , ZERRUBBABEL THE GOVERNOR WAS JOHANNAN''S SON (NOT CURSED )

    THEY TRIED TO HIDE THIS ^ LOL
  • waterproof
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    Like I said u wicked snake, im to tired to deal with your wickedness, I know all about this stuff and the science behind it
  • whar
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    Wouldn't a Biology text book be all that is required to debunked a ? birth amongst humans?
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    @whar you cant wake some one who is pretending to be sleep- Navajo Proverb

    well as a dr i will say ? birth is possible its called "parthenogenesis"

    insha this helps
  • whar
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    As a doctor you will say parthenogenesis is possible in humans?!?! Parthenogenesis is why I added 'amongst humans' to my statement since primitive animals can undergo parthenogenesis. Humans however do not. In fact all mammals don't. The only incidents of mammalian parthenogenesis have occurred in labs.

    And of course there is the small problem of Jesus' ? . Having a Y chromosome makes parthenogenesis impossible.
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    remember hebrews trace their line thru ze father so listing marys genealogy would be insignificant hebraicly
    when you read ze book of eusebius he explains that luke the 3rd chapter is josephs father heli according to the law of due 25: 5 ze uterine brother of his biological father jacob of mathew 1st chapter this was corrupted by the church fathers to perpetuate ze ? birth !

  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    mixed hebrews are called mamzers or israelitish
    in ze torah (hebrew mother , non hebrew father ) and were always distinguished from the children of israel
    lev 24:10

  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    would not ha shem be breaking his own law by impregnating a women that was already betrothed to a husband ? lol

  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    the new agers attempt to repackage this and say that mary and joseph were essenes (an ancient egyptian order)
    that was passed down from the 18th dynasty of egypt thru ankhanatens cult of aten ra and used a technique that was taught in atlantis by the naaqals and that they mated interdimensionaly ..

  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    while this technique is a real one ^ the book of mathew's relies on isaiah the 7th chapter particularly the 14th verse
    isaiah 7:14
    Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a ? shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

    mathew quotes this verse and attempts to apply this to christ which is a farce

    the word for ? there הָעַלְמָ֗ה halama means a young women not a literal ?



  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    ^^ ISAIAH 7:14 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS THE CHRIST THIS IS ANOTHER FALSE PROPHECY WHICH LENDS CREDENCE TO THE FACT THAT THIS YASHUA ( JESUS) GUY IS MADE UP
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    THE REAL JESUS WAS JUSTUS (THE MASONIC JESUS ) WHO WAS THE SON OF CLEOPATRA AND MARK ANTONY

    THE NEW AGERS ALSO SPEAK OF JESUS (YASHUA ) BEN HUR
    THERE IS ALSO JESUS BEN PANDERA SON OF THE ROMAN MERCERNARY JOSEPH BEN PANTERA WHO LEARNED THE MAGIC OF THE EGYPTIANS AND DECEIVED MANY

    then theres the reputed "Yeishu ha-Notzri" (see similarity of jesus of nazareth ) JEWISH SCHOLARS POSTULATE THAT CHRISTIANITY WAS A CONTINUANCE OF A RELIGION THAT WAS ALREADY 100-150 YRS OLD BY THE SAID TIME OF CHRIST (NAZARENE S) AND THAT THIS GUY WAS AN ANTI CHRIST

    BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY REMEMBER JESUS (YEISHU , YASHUA ECT ) WAS A COMMON NAME EVEN JOSHUA THE SUCCESSOR OF MOSES OF THE TORAH IS CALLED JESUS IN THE NT
    INSHA THIS HELPS
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    ^^ this can be found in ze Tosefta, Baraita ect
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    feel free to ask questions chaps xd
  • waterproof
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    LOL i'M about to debunk this fake ass Muslim who's a rabbi that practice Nile Valley Spirituality and is apart of a wired ass cult sect.

    Ol false ass wanNA be prophet you do not know hebrew and YAHUSHUA have many meanings that's why the name appeared a few times in the tanach to certain people who named was changed to YAHUSHUA.

    to understand why the name YAHUSHUA was given you got to know the different meanings of the name HOW IT WAS PRONOUNCE and read the context of the story when the name was given.

    Joshua was called Yahushua because Joshua was crying and whining to the most high and he was called Yahushua because of how he was acting and what he was doing YAHUSHUA also means YAH WHO HEARS SUPPLICATION or CRY'S in that sense YAHUSHUA is a passive name.

    meaning it's not YAH-WHO-SHO-WAH = MEANING YAH WHO SAVES/YAH WHO'S DELIVER

    It means YAH -WHO-SHOOO-WAH = MEANING YAH WHO HEARS CRY'S.

    So that's why YAH and Moses called Joshua Yahushua in that part of the scripture.. and in Judges 2 verse 7 the NAME Yahushua was used again becaused Joshua just died and people was crying ala YAH WHO HEARS SUPPLICATION/CRIES.

    joshua was not the only one who had the same name as the Messiyah so did two other Joshua's in the scriptures.



    because according to scripture there was only one Joshua who wear bear the name of the Messiyah.

    i let you go figure it out since you know so much.

    SO YOU IS WACK, YOUR TEACHER IS WACK and YOU STILL DONT KNOW ? , THERE YOU GO FOLKS.........

    IM done with this fool
  • alissowack
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    Maybe it is just me, but I believe there is more to the "? birth" thing than genealogy. Maybe it has more to do with how man wants to earn or take credit for our own salvation. The ? birth could be in some way saying that mankind can't take credit for the birth of the savior. If so, then who needs ? ?
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    @alissowack

    my friend lol the bible was written by hebrews for hebrews to hebrews you must understand the torah to under stand jesus the messiah has to come from the root of jesse thru the tribe of judah a physical tribe not a belief system jesus himself speaks of this althrough out the new testament rev 22:16 , hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Judah romans 1:3 ect
    @alissowack

    the ? birth agenda is apart of the "anti race deception" its to get you to think race is not important biblicaly that every one is equal ( lol ) this is un biblical , The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal - Aristotle
    Deuteronomy 7:6
    For you are a holy people unto the LORD your ? : the LORD your ? has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth

    insha this helps
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    @alissowack, r&r

    jesus didnt come to save the world he came to save the children of israel who are now called african americans including bantus , igbos (amongst others ) but the bulk of the israelites are in west africa and the americas
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    jesus never existed (but i mean in the mythos ) (or if you believe he did ) (but the tribes of israel are a real chosen race ) insha this helps
  • lostsamuraisotaku
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    JOHN 17:9 JESUS HIMSELF SAID HE PRAYS NOT FOR THE WORLD , MAT 10:34 THAT HE DIDNT COME TO SEND PEACE BUT A SWORD

    THE ISRAELITES WHO WERE AND ARE TO THIS DAY QUOTE BLACK WERE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE JUST LIKE TODAY JERUSALEM WAS A PROVINCE OF ROME THE TEMPLE WAS DESTROYED AND ISRAEL WAS SCATTERED IN THE MYTHOS JESUS CAME TO BEGIN TO RESTORE ISRAEL AND BRING SOUND DOCTRINE

    BUT THIS OF COURSE IS A CUNNINGLY DEVISED FABLE ^ (THE JESUS CHRIST MYTH ) THE TANAKH SAYS THAT HA SHEM WOULD RAISE ONE UP FROM THE SEED OF JESSE DURING THE LAST DAYS NOT COME BACK 2000 YEARS LATER FROM SPIRIT WORLD

    REMEMBER TO MY HEBREW ACHYAM @waterproof ECT WHO BELIEVE IN CHRIST

    DUETERONOMY 28 SAYS YOUR KING SHALL GO INTO SLAVERY WITH YOU SO THE LINE OF THE KINGS (DAVIDS LINE IS IN SLAVERY WITH THE REST OF THE NATION THIS CANT BE TALKING ABOUT JESUS )
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