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  • waterproof
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    Testosterone Injection

    A testosterone Injection is by far the most common type of injection for any anabolic steroid user. Further, for the individual who partakes in hormone replacement therapy who as part of his therapy is administered testosterone, although this administration can come in many forms by way of a testosterone injection is again the most common form of practice.

    Testosterone injections are the most important steroidal injections for most performance enhancing athletes, as this is the most common and most important steroid that will be used. Simple testosterone injections can rapidly and effectively transform a physique, enhance athletic performance and greatly improve your overall quality of life and thats not just for performance enhancers. Basic testosterone injections are also very common among Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) patients, as testosterone is commonly prescribed. In either case, for performance or HRT purposes testosterone injections are the same in-terms of the steroidal hormone used, where we inject it and how it performs within the body.

    Testosterone Injection Sites:

    •Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT): for the HRT patient a testosterone injection will normally be administered in the glutes or deltoid muscles.

    •Performance Enhancing: for the performance enhancer a testosterone injection can be administered in just about any muscle on the body, in-fact, for the heavy users many injections sites will be needed in order to avoid a buildup of scar tissue. The Following muscle are all suitable for a testosterone injection:


    1. Glutes
    2. Deltoids
    3. Biceps
    4. Triceps
    5. Lats
    6. Pectorals
    7. Quadriceps
    8. Traps
    9. Calves

    Testosterone Injection Protocol:

    1. Using a new/fresh needle and syringe draw air into the syringe identical to the amount of testosterone you plan to inject.

    2. Place the needle in the vile or amp and press the air you have drawn into the syringe into the vile or amp.

    3. Draw out the desired amount of testosterone a. If you are using a larger needle to draw the testosterone out as is common practice, remove the needle and replace with a smaller and fresh needle. If not proceed to step 4

    4. Cap the needle with its cover and do not allow the needle to come into contact with anything other than its protective cover.

    5. Choose a spot to administer your testosterone injection, clean the area thoroughly and then sanitize the area with alcohol.

    6. Remove the protective cap from the needle; again do not let the needle come into contact with anything other than the point of injection.

    7. Make sure there is no air or air bubbles in the syringe. Once you are clear proceed to step
    8 and prepare to inject.

    8. In a direct manner plunge the needle into the desired area. Do not stab yourself but make the movement swift and be certain you go in straight without any bend or angle.

    9. With a steady hand administer the testosterone injection at a steady pace. Do not force the testosterone in but let it flow smoothly and naturally.

    10. Remove the needle from the injected area and immediately apply pressure to the injected area with a fresh cotton ball.

    11. Once you are certain no blood or liquid is leaking out of the injected site massage the area thoroughly to disperse the testosterone.

    12. Throw the needle, syringe and cotton ball away and never use those particular items again. For your next testosterone injection you will always use new and fresh needles, syringes and cotton ? .

    The HRT Patient
    If youre in need of HRT, in most cases it will be for the treatment of low testosterone or Andropause; Andropause largely including a low testosterone condition. In either case, as natural testosterone levels are in decline testosterone injections make the most sense. Of course there are other options; there are testosterone gels and patches, subcutaneous implant pellets and even indirect therapy measures through SERMs and AIs but testosterone injections remain the most effective. Simple and easy to perform testosterone injections gives us the hormone we need in direct and instantaneous fashion; look at it like this, if youre dehydrated you need to drink water, you could eat a bunch of fruit and receive its water but drinking a glass from the tap or bottle is your best bet.

    The Performance Enhancer
    When we supplement with anabolic steroids our natural testosterone production is suppressed; regardless of our genetics or how superior we may be this is an inescapable effect. For this reason testosterone injections are advised when we supplement with anabolic steroids, as the hormone is essential to our overall and general state of health. Of course as testosterone is the most well-tolerated anabolic steroid of all and as one of the most effective it just makes sense to use it. If you are supplementing with several anabolic steroids testosterone should be in play but even if youre only going to choose one and this is not uncommon, testosterone injections are the way to go.

    Forms & Types
    Before you begin your therapy for whatever reason you will find there are several testosterones from which to choose. Each one is defined by the ester attached and sometimes a combination of esters and in one case the lack thereof. In any case, regardless of the form chosen the active testosterone hormone is the same, it does not hold special abilities in one form that are lacking in another. Common forms of testosterone injections include:

    •Testosterone-Cypionate (Large Ester)
    •Testosterone-Enanthate (Large Ester)
    •Testosterone-Propionate (Small Ester)
    •Testosterone-Suspension (No Ester)
    •Sustanon-250 (Large & Short Ester Mixture)
    •Omnadren (Large & Short Ester Mixture)

    While all are the same in-terms of the hormone provided each is defined by the ester; small ester results in faster initial activity and shorter active duration, while a large ester results in the opposite. In the case of no ester, activity is virtually instant and as there is no traditional half-life activity is very short lived.

    Whichever form you choose the procedure of the testosterone injections will be the same. You will need to time your injections based on the form used in-terms of frequency of the injections but beyond that there is no difference. In any case you will find testosterone injections to be best applied to the glutes or lateral deltoid heads (side of the shoulder or side delt.) Simply draw the solution into a syringe, plunge into the desired area, aspirate slightly to ensure no blood enters the syringe and then inject. If blood draws in simply take the needle out, move it to a new location and begin the process again. Youll find the process to be painless; yes, you are using a needle but its not a nail and the most pain you should feel will be no more than a slight ? or pinch
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    Testosterone Cycle

    For the performance enhancing athlete there is nothing more important than a simple testosterone cycle. The testosterone hormone is one of the absolute best anabolic steroids we can ever supplement with. Powerfully effective, a simple testosterone cycle can provide almost all the benefits any performance enhancer will ever be after but the good news doesnt stop there, not by a long shot.

    Beyond effective a basic testosterone cycle is further one of the safest anabolic steroids we can use as it is a very well-tolerated hormone. Of course we would be remised if we didnt state we are speaking of responsible use and we are speaking of responsible use in healthy adult men. Adolescents should not supplement with testosterone or any anabolic steroid as it can have disastrous effects on their growth and development. As for females, they can supplement with testosterone in low doses where needed, in-fact, therapeutic use is not as uncommon as you might think but for performance there are other steroids that will far better serve a females needs.

    Very effective, well-tolerated and generally safe for healthy adult men, this is the trifecta regarding anabolic steroid use making a simple testosterone cycle the best cycle for any performance enhancer. No, it is not the most powerfully effective anabolic steroid that title belongs to Trenbolone but due to the other factors, when all factors are considered testosterone simply comes out on top. Of course the obvious question is how we run a testosterone cycle and the good news is its not as difficult as you might think; in-fact, if you have the ability to breathe and possess half a brain you can pull off such a cycle successfully.

    Forms:
    When you plan your testosterone cycle you will find you have many testosterone forms from which to choose from. Each form contains the same identical testosterone hormone, it will be the ester attached to the hormone that creates any difference. However, regardless of the form the hormone will perform in the same direct fashion once in the body but due to ester timing revolving around initial activity and total active duration administration frequency will vary. Common forms from which you may choose include:

    •Testosterone-Cypionate (Large Ester)
    •Testosterone-Enanthate (Large Ester)
    •Testosterone-Propionate (Small Ester)
    •Testosterone-Suspension (Ester Free)
    •Sustanon-250 (Testosterone Mixture)
    •Omnadren (Testosterone Mixture)

    Cycle Length & Dose:

    Once you choose your form you will plan out total testosterone cycle length and generally speaking 8 weeks will be our minimal time of use if we are to truly reap any solid reward. While 8 weeks can provide benefits 12-16 weeks will be far more efficient. For a first testosterone cycle you may want to keep the total time at 10-12 weeks in order to keep things simple and ensure you have a positive experience. Further, for a first testosterone cycle there is no need to get crazy with the dose; keep the dose moderate and see how you respond but rest assured even with a moderate dose you will reap a serious reward. Generally speaking a dosing of 400mg-500mg per week is a fine place to start; in-fact, while a great starting point for a first testosterone cycle this dosing will be all many men ever need for each and every cycle. To achieve this in the simplest way possible we recommend sticking with Testosterone-Cypionate, commonly dosed at 200mg/ml or Testosterone-Enanthate, commonly dosed at 250mg/ml. Both will get the job done and both forms are virtually identical in every way.

    Of course these time frames and total doses are by no means set in stone; both can be extended and increased. There is nothing magical about 16 weeks or 500mgs and as you progress you may find you want to increase both ends. If you do this you need to be aware of the truth; more testosterone for a longer period of time can mean more gains but it also increases your risk of adverse side-effects and that is exactly what well go into next.

    Adverse Side-Effects:
    As you run your testosterone cycle you are going to want to protect against adverse side-effects; after all, if youre falling prey to numerous side-effects the benefits start to become meaningless. It is important to note not everyone will respond to the hormone in an identical manner; some will be sensitive to side-effects while others will not even at a massive dose and of course we have the majority who fall somewhere in-between. As the majority of the side-effects are brought on by a buildup in estrogen that will occur the best tool we have at our disposal is supplemental use of Aromatase Inhibitors (AIs) such as Arimidex and Letrozole. These AIs will inhibit the estrogen conversion and even reduce the amount of estrogen in the body thereby protecting from many of the adverse effects.

    Further, it is very important you live a healthy lifestyle when running a testosterone cycle. A lifestyle that is both cholesterol and blood pressure friendly will do more for you than perhaps anything else in this regard. Those who gorge, eat like pigs and drink like fish will normally be the first ones who find they have a problem and as behavior like that is detrimental to your health and physique in the first place hopefully you wont have too hard of a time abstaining from unhealthy behavior on a regular basis. No one is saying you cant eat some tasty food or have a drink now and then, were simply saying you need to try to live a generally healthy lifestyle.

    The End Game:
    In the end however you plan your testosterone cycle, assuming you supplement in a responsible manner, protect yourself against side-effects and live a healthy lifestyle to boot you should in most all cases enjoy a positive experience. Of course you need to be forewarned and this is not something we say to be cute. Once you run your first testosterone cycle and begin down the path of anabolic steroid use it will be very hard to turn back. Anabolic steroids are not addictive in a physical sense; there are no physical withdraw symptoms once use is discontinued. However, due to their effectiveness and due to the fact that gains of this nature cannot be made without their assistance, once you supplement youre going to be hooked. If this scares you or you foresee it as a problem turn away now. If not, hang on, because your life is about to change in ways you never could have imagined.





  • waterproof
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    WEEK 3

    Acne is in check, due to oxy pads and shower cream, blood pressure in check.....i am adding lean muscle gain and getting cuts around the chest plate area, arms is growing a nice size, feeling real good, slow but steady strength gains......

    OH YEAH Test do make you run faster, now i am a solid size dude, and i used to be a runner when i got down to 212 and was running 6 miles a day.

    well lets say i am nowhere near that, so i went to the lake to get my cardio and run game up to help with this weight lost, now i go with the feel of my body, so i started of with a slight jog, went a quater of a mile, wind in check, now i havent run in a long time, so i felt like sprinting and i took off, ran fast for my size alleast 50 yards, slowed down walk, wasnt winded, i was like yep it's the steroids and laughed.

    and i did that again a few times....

    well the other day i raced my daughter and beat her lol, few weeks ago we was running long distance and she was whopping my ass.....

    the muscles are harder also, the agression is there also, i get ? off when i drive by bad drivers.......

    Grape seed ectract and hawthorn berry is getting my blood pressure in check
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    Testosterone for Women

    Testosterone for women reading those words might cause you to do a double take, after all, testosterone is the primary male sex hormone but make no mistake, testosterone for women is of a high and vital importance. Without the hormones presence women would not exist in their proper state, their immune system would falter, their mood would falter, their libido would crash and their physique would suffer in numerous ways. However, as testosterone for women is very important too much can be nothing short of disastrous; it is one of those things in life that must be met perfectly, as too much or too little is no good at all.

    Several things can negatively affect a womans testosterone levels and most commonly when were speaking of testosterone for women were speaking of low levels, as things such as birth control and menopause can greatly reduce natural production. However, there is one other group that often gets ignored and they need to be recognized; we are speaking of performance enhancing athletes and in this case we are referring to testosterone for women in the highest sense.

    It is of a very common belief that women should not supplement with testosterone for the purpose of performance enhancement and as most all anabolic steroids are derived from or owe their allegiance to testosterone none of them should be touched by the female class. It is true; testosterone for women in a performance enhancing sense can have horrific effects, most notably increasing masculine characteristics. However, this does not mean testosterone for women cannot be used efficiently in the performance enhancing sense but they will necessarily need to be far more cautious and often opt for other steroidal hormones that do not belong to this powerful androgen class.

    Testosterone for women must be taken in very low doses if supplemented with at all and even then it may cause many unwelcomed changes that do not present an even trade to the gain in performance. Most women who are looking for a bump are better served sticking with Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) derivatives of a milder nature; Anavar is often a favorite to serve this purpose as it is very side-effect friendly. However, for the woman who wants more she must understand she is greatly increasing her risks but in the end that will prove to be up to her. Performance enhancing testosterone for women can have fast negative effects but if they begin to occur and a woman discontinues use immediately in many cases she can reverse such problems. Any supplementation of testosterone for women should be discontinued if the vocal chords begin to deepen, body-hair growth begins to manifest or the ? begins to swell.

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    Testosterone Levels

    Have you noticed in recent years you have a lack of energy, not as much pep in your step as you once did? Has your sex drive diminished, have you noticed your physique has declined even if you implore proper diet and exercise; have you noticed a lacking in desire for diet and exercise? How about stress, are you generally stressed do you have any symptoms or feelings of depression? If you display any of these symptoms or a combination of a few the odds are your testosterone levels are low and with improper testosterone levels its only going to get worse. While there are other instances and conditions that can cause the same effects, when were speaking of adult men nine times out of ten were speaking of a condition known as low testosterone and it is a condition that will affect nearly every man at some point in his life. While this may sound bleak do not let your heart be troubled for we can increase our testosterone levels through therapy and the process is painless and one of the easiest things youll ever do. Unfortunately no, there is nothing you can do to reverse low testosterone in-terms of bringing back normal production, in many ways its simply part of life but you do not necessarily need to let it beat you down.

    Determining Low Testosterone Levels
    If you display any of the symptoms discussed above there is a good chance you suffer from low testosterone, however, displaying symptoms is not enough; in medical practice in order to receive a needed testosterone prescription an actual number is needed. Herein lies a great problem; natural testosterone levels can vary greatly from one individual to the next; in the United States a general rule of thumb is that an individual will need to display a total testosterone reading of 300 ng/dL or lower to qualify for therapy but what if your previous natural state is much higher? Natural testosterone levels can range anywhere from as high as 850 ng/dL so as you can easily see for some men the 300 ng/dL may not be an accurate point of reference yet it remains so. For this reason it is imperative you are honest with your doctor if testosterone treatment is something you are after; many men are embarrassed when talking about such a condition, especially when we enter the realm of sexually related; dont be, youre only hurting yourself and depriving yourself of proper testosterone levels.

    The Common Lie
    There is only one true way to increase testosterone levels and that is through the use of anabolic steroid therapy and generally the primary anabolic steroid in the form of synthetic testosterone. However, because anabolic steroids carry with them such a strong negative connotation in popular culture many are petrified of use and this stretches far and wide into the medical field as well. For this reason many will search out alternative methods such as natural testosterone boosters, as well as implementing more exercise into their routine and eating foods that have been shown to increase testosterone levels. It is true, weight training has been shown to have a positive effect on testosterone and certain foods and natural supplements can increase testosterone levels to a degree but even with all of these things implored we are talking about miniscule amounts; for the man who suffers from low testosterone he would be as well served performing a ritualistic rain dance in hopes of increasing his levels.

    Eliminating Concern
    As anabolic steroid use is the only way to readily increase testosterone levels one does not need to be afraid. When we are speaking of anabolic steroids we are not speaking of medications or drugs in the common sense largely associated with them; we are speaking of hormones in-which the term Drug may actually be very inappropriate. Further, we are speaking of hormones our body is very familiar with, hormones we have been producing since the day we were born; we are now simply producing them in smaller amounts and that is the problem. Most all men who supplement with exogenous testosterone find it to be very well-tolerated and generally side-effect free when responsible use is implored and in many cases even when supraphysiological doses are taken; however, to increase testosterone levels for therapeutic purposes a supraphysiological dose is not something you will need. Yes, there are possible side-effects that may occur but most all are completely avoidable if precaution is taken. For this reason it is important you do your homework, research testosterone and anabolic steroids in general and you will largely see only positive results; keep in mind, as it is often understated, possible side-effects simply mean possible; it does not mean guaranteed.

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    Testosterone in Women

    Testosterone is largely known as the dominant male hormone however, as the dominant female hormone estrogen is also found in males testosterone in women is also a reality. Both sexes need testosterone, both sexes naturally produce the hormone, however, the production of testosterone in women is to a far lesser degree than in men. The majority of women only produce approximately one tenth of the amount produced by men and for this reason a common myth and misunderstanding is that women do not need the hormone; nothing could be further from the truth. While it is true, its imperative nature is far from the degree it resides men but it still has an important role to play for both sexes and it is testosterone in women and its effects we want to discuss today.


    Testosterone in Women Positive Effects:
    While testosterone in women can share some of the same positive effects it provides in men the larger and more important ones revolving around the female sex do not revolve around muscle performance to the same degree due to increased levels leading to many problems (we will discuss as we go along.) One of the primary roles testosterone in women plays is however one of its primary roles it plays in men and it revolves around libido. Women with insufficient testosterone production will find their libidos greatly decreased and in many cases a desire for sexual activity an idea from the past. Women who suffer from decreased libido issues are highly advised to seek out testosterone replacement therapy options in order to improve this aspect of their lives.


    As greatly an effect testosterone can have on sexual desire the role of testosterone in women has two important factors that must not be ignored. Women who suffer from low or inadequate levels open themselves up to osteoporosis and depression to a far greater degree than women who have adequate levels. Testosterone when produced in proper amounts will greatly strengthen a womans bone structure and as women are far more prone to osteoporosis than men this is an invaluable trait. As it is imperative to bone health it is equally imperative to mental health as well. Adequate levels of testosterone in women will largely be responsible for their general well-being in-terms of their overall state of mind; therefore, women who suffer from low levels will greatly see their quality of life improved once therapy is implemented.


    Increased Testosterone in Women:
    While this hormone is important, when testosterone in women reaches excess levels a host of problems can be found and if you are a women you will find the most prominent ones to be nothing short of horrible. Excess levels of testosterone in women can greatly cause a host of masculine effects and largely take away from femininity. For those who have high levels common effects may include:

    •Deepening of the Vocal Chords
    •? Hair Growth
    •Body Hair Growth
    •Hair Loss (Baldness)
    •Acne
    •Clitoral Enlargement

    These possible effects brought on by increased levels of the hormone are effects most no woman would ever desire. While very few women will reach levels of a nature that can cause these symptoms naturally, the most common method is due to synthetic administration of testosterone (anabolic steroids.)

    Granted, as these problems can be far from desirable, testosterone in women can be increased beyond normal levels in-order to provide a means to reach a certain end and done so effectively and safely. As testosterone will promote muscle growth and preservation of existing tissue in men it will do the same in women. The difference here is the possible negative effects of such amounts; men do not have to worry about feminine effects if they take too much of the hormone. However if a woman desires to dramatically increase muscle mass, if they use very low doses of the hormone for far shorter durations than men, many times they can avoid these side-effects; however, just as many times they cannot. It is truly a role of the dice and impossible to predict. Most women who are looking for a solid performance enhancing boost are advised to stick to other anabolic steroids other than testosterone; most women will find steroids such as Anavar to be far safer and very effective.
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    Steroid Law - Prison Time

    common concern for anyone who supplements with anabolic steroids is the legality of the matter, as prison time can be an unfortunate reality due to the Steroid Control Act of 1990 and the reinforcement of the original act with the Steroid Control Act of 2004. Unfortunately predicting how much prison time will occur if an individual is charged with a violation is impossible to predict as several factors come into play regarding both state and federal laws. Make no mistake; the mere possession of anabolic androgenic steroids is a felony offense under federal law with the extent of the offense carrying far reaching consequences depending on the nature of the said offense.

    Under federal law anabolic androgenic steroids are classified as Schedule III Narcotics with simple possession being punishable by up to one year in prison for a first time offense; however, most states have added anabolic steroids to their control substance list which can increase the penalty to a greater degree, in some cases quite extensively. As should come as no surprise the advent of selling and or manufacturing anabolic steroids will carry a much stiffer penalty; however, it is important to note, simple personal possession can very easily turn into “Intent to Sell” making a personal users a dealer almost overnight. Each state will carry its own sentencing regulations regarding steroid offenses of any nature but several factors will come into play that determine if any jail time is seen including but not limited to the individuals prior criminal record, the role the individual played in the case, the strength of the case and of great importance the strength of the individuals defense council. While the majority of first time offenders of a simple possession nature will see no jail time if the label of possession with the intent to distribute is attached the individuals legal council will ultimately be their saving grace with the lack of solid council resulting in a horrific end. Even so, in some cases some state courts will choose to make an example out of a personal user; while it is unlikely it does still occur and jail time can become a reality.

    The total brunt of the penalty will also largely be affected by which court it is tried in; state or federal. In rare circumstances the individual can be tried in both courts but if this occurs there are normally other factors at play other than possession or simple distribution. In the majority of cases even if the case was brought under federal law enforcement the case will be brought to the individuals state court in the end; however, this is not advantageous, as state courts can and will often bring down a much harsher penalty. To give understanding in the state of New York an individual charged with distribution or the intent to distribute can be sentenced to up to ten years in prison for a first time offense; while this is the maximum time and most will not see the maximum sentence it should give you a good idea of the severity. The amounts of steroids in the individuals possession can also play a vital role as large amounts can be deemed “intent to distribute” even if no true intention exists. Under federal law the total amount of steroids in possession of the individual is of crucial importance and as anabolic steroids are generally measured in weight by the courts this proves very disadvantageous for the accused.

    While many first time offenders will get off the hook regarding jail time, even those of an intent to distribute nature; even if they do not in most cases for a first time offense only a portion of the sentence given will be served but not all are so lucky as was the with the notorious case of Donnie Keith Wall. Wall is the poster child for severe anabolic steroid consequences being sentenced to 35 years in prison by a Texas court. Wall was pulled over by police where he lied about his name and eventually provided an expired driver’s license under his real name; officers noted drug paraphernalia in his car but Wall denied search; in the end he was held in place until a search warrant could be obtained where by-which both oral and injectable anabolic steroids were found in his possession.

    Under Texas state law controlled substance penalties are based on the total weight of the substance at hand with the possession of 200 to 400 grams of anabolic steroids with the intent to sell being a first degree felony punishable by 5 to 99 years in prison. It is important to note when regarding anabolic steroids the total weight and mass is not a pure indicator of the amount of active hormone at hand as anabolic steroids are measured in milligrams based on the dosing of the hormone, not the weight of the compound. Wall’s attorneys argued the oil and water as well as binders that hold the tablets together were merely carrying agents and could not be included in the total weight of the compound however, the state disagreed, saying the agents were added to increase bulk. As you can see this makes very little sense, anabolic steroids must possess these carrying agents in order for them to exist but this common sense was ignored and this should give understanding of how severe such a case can be; when common sense is thrown out the window often an individual stands no chance at all.

    In the end jail time will always be determined by prior criminal record and the strength of your defense council. However, it cannot be stressed enough, personal possession can very easily be deemed intent to distribute based on the amounts in your possession and simple things such as giving your training partner a bottle of testosterone. Many find themselves in far worse trouble when they sell a bottle of anabolic steroids to a friend; while they may be simply doing a friend a favor that one bottle turns them into a dealer in the eyes of the court no differently than it does the actual dealer you bought the original bottle from. Increasingly over the years many individuals have seen jail time due to this sort of scenario and law enforcement has begun going after all the small fish, the users in order to pry information out regarding their big fish suppliers. The question remains, as it is the only one most are concerned with; will you see jail time if caught with your own personal supply? The answer remains the same, it is impossible to say with certainty but the above gives you an idea of how severe the consequences can be and contrary to popular belief a harsh end is not uncommon.

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    Sustanon and term is the best...gonna use a-bombs for then first time next fall...gonna b amazing...
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    bigstevie wrote: »
    Sustanon and term is the best...gonna use a-bombs for then first time next fall...gonna b amazing...

    @bigstevie why you think Sustanon is the best test based steroids out there.....

    And on my next cycle i am going to run D-bol, test-e and tren, i was thinking about a-bombs also i might replace the d-bol for it

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    Keep the
    waterproof wrote: »
    bigstevie wrote: »
    Sustanon and term is the best...gonna use a-bombs for then first time next fall...gonna b amazing...

    @bigstevie why you think Sustanon is the best test based steroids out there.....

    And i on my next cycle i am going to run D-bol, test-e and tren, i was thinking about a-bombs also i might replace the d-bol for it

    Keep the dbol...abombs n tren is asking for your nips to lactate...sust has fast and slow acting tests in it. So it should kick jn within a few days like propinate but stay in youre system longer like enanthate/cyp.
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    Dorian Yates Talks Steroids - 2013
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65K20aUMd5Q

    THE GREAT DORIAN YATES 6x MR. OLYMPIA

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    ok i believe i covered all i can on Testosterone time to move on to other anabolics......

    Steroids Documentary - Steroids In The UK (Documentary)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6L9SjCNwtY
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    ALRIGHT STRATING MONDAY I AM UPPING THE DOSAGE FOR TEST PROP, I'M GOING UP TO 500 MG a week from 400mg.

    this ? about to be fun.

    MONDAY 200 MG of test prop, WED 100 MG of test prop, FRI 100 MG, SUN 100 MG of test PROP.....

    THINK BIG, GROW BIG
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  • LUClEN
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    Can't wait to run some test e
    your progress is making me anxious as a mother ?
  • waterproof
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    RodrigueZz wrote: »
    Can't wait to run some test e
    your progress is making me anxious as a mother ?

    @RodrigueZz it's bout to be 4 weeks in and i'm already put on some noticeable muscle around the chest, arms, shoulders and quads. I am getting double looks at the gym because when I came in 5-6 months ago I was out of ? shape...

    the strength gains is steady coming in, and I am going hard and heavy in the gym, I have so much energy and aggression that I don't get tired and cardio is easy as ?

    all of this only taking a low dosage, 400mg for my size is not much, this 500mg is going to tell the story.....

    I was at my daughters cousin party and the looks I got was priceless, they was like damn you got big and I am on a cutting cycle.

    Again it's all about the diet and training because with out it, these steroids wont do jack ? .....

    and when you do it, go ? to the wall in the gym get your money worth and eat, sleep and rest.....

    TEST-E is the best way to go when starting, in matter of fact I am going to post YOU a starting cycle of test-e right now, print it out and keep it...
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    Word lemme see what you got planned for me lol. I've been suggested to take dbols 4 weeks into a 10 week test e cycle at 40mg a day. You think that would be overdoing it for a first time?

    Also are you running Arimidex? I was told it's better than clomid during cycle.
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    @RodrigueZz don't even mess with the D-bol, start with test-e solo, this is your first run you got to see how the test-e effects your body so you know how you feel, what it does, what sides you get if any and getting your body used to the steroid..

    Here's the FIRST TIMER CYCLE AND PCT (read, read, read, read and read again) I got this from a site that's real good with information and help.

    PART 1......

    Almost weekly someone posts on the Chemical Enhancement forum asking about first cycle advice. The most common questions are; “what steroid should I take?” “How long should I take it?” and “What will the effects be?” There are literally dozens of steroids available and that makes it difficult for a first time user to choose. The following information will attempt to provide enough information for a first time user to make an educated decision about anabolic androgenic steroid use.

    Testosterone is one of the most effective, safe and available steroids today, therefore I believe Testosterone is the best first cycle choice. The following text outlines the benefits and risks of Testosterone administration based on a clinical human trial of 61 healthy men in 2001. The purpose of the trial was to determine the dose dependency of testosterone’s effects on fat-free mass and muscle performance. In this trial 61 men, 18-35years old were randomized into 5 groups receiving weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, 600 mg of Testosterone Enanthate for 20 weeks. They had previous weight-lifting experience and normal T levels. Their nutritional intake was standardized and they did not undertake any strength training during the trial. The only two groups that reported significant muscle building benefits were the 300 and 600 mg groups so any dose lower than 300mg will not be considered in this essay. 12 men participated in the 300 mg group and 13 men in the 600 mg group.
    600mg of Testosterone a week for 20 weeks resulted in the following benefits. Increased fat free mass, muscle strength, muscle power, muscle volume, hemoglobin and IGF-1.

    The same 600 mg administration resulted in 2 side effects. HDL cholesterol was negatively correlated and 2 men developed acne.

    The normal range for total T in men is 241-827 ng/dl according to Labcorp and 260-1000 ng/dl according to Quest Laboratories. The normal range for IGF-1 is 81-225 according to Labcorp. Total T and IGF-1 levels were taken after 16 weeks and resulted in the following;

    Total Testosterone
    300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
    600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline
    IGF-1
    300 mg group-388 ng/dl a 74 ng increase from baseline
    600 mg group-304 ng/dl a 77 ng increase from baseline

    Body composition was measured after 20 weeks.

    Fat Free Mass by underwater weighing
    300 mg group-5.2kg (11.4lbs) increase
    600 mg group-7.9kg (17.38lbs) increase

    Fat Mass by underwater weighing
    300 mg group-.5kg (1.1lbs) decrease
    600 mg group-1.1kg (2.42lbs) decrease

    Thigh Muscle Volume
    300 mg group-84 cubic centimeter increase
    600 mg group-126 cubic centimeter increase

    Quadriceps Muscle Volume
    300 mg group-43 cubic centimeter increase
    600 mg group-68 cubic centimeter increase

    Leg Press Strength
    300 mg group-72.2kg (158.8lbs) increase
    600 mg group-76.5kg (168.3lbs) increase

    Leg Power
    300 mg group-38.6 watt increase
    600 mg group-48.1 watt increase

    Hemoglobin
    300 mg group-6.1 gram per liter increase
    600 mg group-14.2 gram per liter increase

    Plasma HDL Cholesterol
    300 mg group-5.7 mg/dl decrease
    600 mg group-8.4 mg/dl decrease

    Acne
    300 mg group-7 of the 12 men developed acne
    600 mg group-2 of the 13 men developed acne

    There were no significant changes in PSA or liver enzymes at any dose up to 600mg. However, long-term effects of androgen administration on the prostate, cardiovascular risk, and behavior are unknown. The study demonstrated that there is a dose dependant relationship with testosterone administration. In other words the more testosterone administered the greater the muscle building effects and potential for side effects.

    Given the results of the study and based on years of personal experience I believe the first time user can safely use between 300-600 mg of testosterone enanthate or cypionate per week for 8-12 weeks. Because it is desirable to have even blood androgen levels I advise at least 2 equal injections per week. The following graph demonstrates that testosterone cypionate peaks within 1-2 days after injection and falls off to almost baseline by day 10. Therefore waiting 7 days between injections of cypionate would cause wide fluctuations in blood androgen levels.
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    FIRST TIMER CYCLE AND PCT, PART 2

    If a first time user wanted to use 600 mg of cypionate or enanthate per week he would inject 300 mg on Tuesday and another 300 mg on Saturday each week for 10 weeks. When injecting long heavy esters like cypionate with this frequency I tend to have less acne then 1 injection per week.

    There are a number of esters which provide varying release times. Acetate or propionate esters extend the release time of testosterone a couple of days. In contrast, a deconate ester prolongs the release of testosterone about 3 weeks. Testosterone enanthate and cypionate are almost identical esters. The use of an ester allows for a less frequent injection schedule than using a water based testosterone like suspension which has no ester at all and is rapidly in and out of your system after injection. The published release times are not exact and are many times based on a single injection not many multiple injections which can delay the release of the hormone. Other factors affect release times of esters such as scar tissue and the muscle group injected. Only a blood test can confirm when the active hormone has cleared your system.

    Esters not only effect release times but also the potency of the Testosterone as esters make up part of the steroid weight. This must be taken into account when calculating dosages. The longer the release time the less free hormone. For example propionate is about 15% more potent mg. for mg. then enanthate so 500mg of propionate would equal about 575 mg. of enanthate. The following chart illustrates the free base equivalents for several compounds.

    Although it was not indicated in the trial, during or after the steroid cycle some men are prone to gynecomastia which is the formation of female like breast tissue. This is due to excessive estrogen as the body tries to balance out the sex hormones. A selective estrogen receptor modulator or S.E.R.M. such as Tamoxifen can be used effectively to combat gynecamastia in an emergency as it competes for the estrogen receptor which in turn inhibits estrogens effects. It is highly recommended that a S.E.R.M. be available during treatment of Testosterone. 10-40mg daily is an effective dose however dosage is dependant on how much testosterone is administered as well as the individual himself.

    The decision to use steroids should not be taken lightly and should be the last consideration after implementing a solid nutritional, training and recovery plan. It is advised to get blood work when using these medications.



    Ancillaries during the cycle




    Aromatase Inhibitor


    I briefly wrote about using Tamoxifen above for emergency gynecomastia treatment however I am convinced that there is a better strategy for controlling estrogen during a steroid cycle. Rather than waiting for the side effects of estrogen to present an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex or Aromasin should be used on cycle to control Estrogen and keep free testosterone levels high. 0.5mg-1mg Arimidex daily OR 10-25mg Aromasin daily. Start with the lower dose and then see how that controls water retention, blood pressure and libido and make adjustments as needed. A blood test would be the most ideal way to determine the dosage of the AI. Free T needs to be in the high range and estradiol between 10-25 pg/ml.



    Human Chorionic Gonadotropin


    Testosterone-Induced gonadotropin suppression tends to cause atrophy of the ? and decreases intratesticular testosterone. In other words, when a male administers testosterone his ? shrink because they are suppressed. A simple way to restore ITT levels and maintain the mass of the ? is to administer HCG during testosterone treatment. During a study it was determined that HCG is dose dependant and that approximately 300iu HCG taken every other day restored ITT levels. This is 1,050iu HCG weekly. I recommend 500iu twice weekly while on testosterone treatment. On a very heavy cycle a third dose of 500iu could be added but that is typically not needed. HCG will not only keep ITT levels and the mass of the ? normal but will also aid in keeping the male fertile.



    Sample cycle with ancillaries



    Sunday 10mg Aromasin
    Monday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
    Tuesday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate
    Wednesday 10mg Aromasin
    Thursday 10mg Aromasin
    Friday 10mg Aromasin/500iu HCG
    Saturday 10mg Aromasin/300mg Enanthate



    For all you guys who want to add multiple compounds to your first course I advise against it because if you have side effects then you will not know which compound is causing the sides. I have gotton a ton of PM's over the years and there is always some reason that I am given for using multiple compounds on the first run but there really is no need. However my cycle sample above may not be for everyone so I am offering an alternative to the flat cycle design. If you want to run a first cycle with a little more horespower than you may want to consider a modified pyramiding cycle. I have done over 20 pyramid courses and must say they are my favorite way to run aas. The human body is always fighting for homeostasis so the concept is to increase dose before gains plateau. Based on the 2009 myostatin study we can design a cycle that is effective for 10 weeks using this strategy. The following first cycle is for men that want a little more performance with added risk while only using Testosterone. The first 5 weeks a standard dose is administered to evaluate how your body responds and to determine if sides are manageable. If sides are manageable then increase the dose.


    Sample first course #2


    Week 1-5 600mg Testosterone weekly
    Week 6-8 800mg Testosterone weekly
    Week 9-10 1 gram Testosterone weekly


    10 mg Aromasin daily with the goal of keeping Estradiol between 10pg/ml-25pg/ml. Only blood work can confirm if you are in this range.


    500iu HCG twice weekly.
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    FIRST TIMER CYCLE AND PCT PART 3


    Post Cycle therapy


    I strongly believe that an AI should be used as long as there is an aromatizing compound being administered. In this case Testosterone and HCG aromatize therefore using an AI until these meds clear and a few weeks longer is what I am recommending. There is some evidence that adding Nolva to an AI does not increase the effectiveness of estro control therefore Nolva has no real advantage alongside an AI unless one is experiencing gyno. Additionally Nolva has been shown to reduce IGF-1 and GH levels when used alone. This is not a big deal on cycle as testosterone increases IGF-1 in a dose dependant relationship. However off cycle this is a problem. PCT is a fragile time and lower IGF-1 and GH levels is not desirable. I am recommending an AI that is specific to men that can be used on cycle and during PCT. It is my conclusion that Aromasin is the obvious choice.

    I recommend the following PCT protocol for esters like Cypionate and Enanthate;

    Day 1-16 : 2500iu HCG every other day. (You may use less HCG if your ? are normal in size AND you have been using HCG on cycle, i.e. 1,000iu HCG etd.)

    100/100/100/50 Clomid (50mg taken twice per day weeks 1-3 after aas ester clears)

    20mg/20mg/20mg/10mg Aromasin (20mg daily for 3 weeks, 10mg daily in week 4)

    3g Vit C every day split in 3 doses

    10g creatine daily

    The HCG is administered BEFORE the ester clears to increase the mass of the ? and bring back ITT levels. This will allow the ? to sustain output of testosterone sooner.

    Clomid is universally accepted as THE testosterone recovery tool. It blocks estrogen from the HPTA and stimulates the production of GNRH then initiates the production of LH, which in turn signals the ? (if not atrophied) to produce testosterone.

    Aromasin or a similar aromatase inhibitor is for testosterone recovery and it is used to keep the testosterone/estrogen balance in favor of testosterone. It is also helps to keep any additionally occurring estrogen from HCG low to none.

    Cortisol is catabolic. It is the enemy of all anabolism and must be kept in check. While it is blocked when under the influence of AAS, it is free to attach to the Anabolic Receptors (AR) once the steroids leave. Due to this blockage Cortisol tends to accumulate and increase when on. A low level is desirable however since it is important for other vital functions such as control of inflammation. Balance is the key. Vitimin C keeps the exercise induced rise of Cortisol in check.

    The use of Creatine has shown to increase ATP metabolism and cellular water storage among many other things. This is beneficial because it provides for heightened nutrient storage and a slight increase in anabolism as well as workout stamina.


  • scarfacetf
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    Feels good going back to MMA... Sore as hell, though. This coming friday boxing and jiu jitsu back to back!!!!! Is that safe?

    Hell Yeah It IS. Where Do You Train If You Don't Mind Me Asking. I'm A Jiu Jitsu Player Myself

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    Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)

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    Deca Durabolin ("Deca") is actually the brand name for Organons version of the compound Nandrolone Decanoate. Deca Durabolin is a 19-Nor compound (some would say that it is the 19-nor compound), and as such, it shares basically the same characteristics with all of them. One thing unique to Deca, above nearly all steroids, is the mystique it has had for the last quarter of a century. On a personal level, Ive included Deca in cycles at doses ranging from 100mgs/week to 2,000mgs per week. Suffice to say, I have my fair share of experience with Deca Durabolin. This drug was regarded very highly by Dan Duchaine in his Underground Steroid Handbooks as well as many of his later writings. For many, this was and is the final word on Deca. Lets delve into some of the reasons that Decas mystique may be well deserved.

    First of all, Deca Durabolin (and Nandrolone in general) doesnt produce many estrogenic or androgenic side effects. This is because Deca Durabolin has a very low rate of aromatization (conversion to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme), roughly equal to 20% the rate of Testosterone.

    Also, Ive read many places that Deca Durabolin stores water in connective tissue, thus alleviating joint pain. I have no idea what "storing water in the joints" means. I have no idea how to really quantify that statement, or where it started. However, in one study of postmenapusal women, Deca impoved collagen synthesis (1), and in another study Deca Durabolin increased bone mineral content. (2)Both of these studies used VERY low doses, which were far too low to promote muscle growth. In my estimation, based on these 2 studies, an athlete attempting to use Deca only for these two effects (increasing bone mineral content and collagen synthesis) should be using 100mgs of Deca Durabolin every week. Thats actually a higher dose than those two studies used successfully. Even at of this dose, in ? + patients who have experienced significant wasting, a 100mg/E2W (every 2 weeks) injection of Deca resulted in a "significant increase in weight" (5). Id never recommend that low of a dose for an athlete, but its evidence of Decas strong anabolic properties.

    Deca is a very nice anabolic, causing nice (albeit slow) gains in quality muscle. This could be due to its moderately strong binding to the Androgen Receptor, or its many positive non-Androgen-Receptor mediated effects. One such effect is nitrogen retention, which is a major factor in muscle growth and lean mass gains; in one study, with low-doses (65 mg/week) and high-doses of Deca (200 mg/week), both low-doses and high-doses resulted in significant nitrogen retention (33-52 g nitrogen/14 days, representing gains of 0.5 to 0.9 kg lean tissue/week), and body weight increased by 4.9 +/- 1.2 kg, including 3.1 +/- 0.5 kg lean body mass, and treadmill exercise performance (cardiovascular fitness) also improved (7). Need I say that the higher doses in this study produced more gains? Steroid.com members who have posted their results with Deca Durabolin confirm this in many posts and threads, with their average reccomendation being to take 400-600mgs/week for muscle gain. I have to agree.

    Deca Durabolin also has a very long active life. We can see from the chart below that a 100mg shot Deca (represented by the circles) produced relatively active and stable plasma nandrolone levels until day almost 10, hence once a week shots are all thats necessary for stable levels of nandrolond Deca Durabolinnoate (as a side note, the nandrolone phenylpropionate used in this study was active, and only experienced a severe drop off around day 5, shooting NPP every 4th day is the way to go). Youll also note that higher blood plasma levels of Nandrolone are found with Gluteal injections as opposed to Deltoid injections (this is true for all oil-based steroids, I suspect).



    In another study of ? + men (6) we can see that Deca Durabolin ( 200mgs on week 1, 400 on week 2 and 600mgs for weeks 3-12) caused NO negative side effects in total or LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, or insulin sensitivity and there was a reduction of HDL cholesterol(8-10 points) in both groups. Also, in most studies with ? + subjects, Deca Durabolin also improved immune function.
    So what do we know so far about this compound? So far, we know thatDeca Durabolin is a very safe drug for long term use, will help with joint problems, could improve immune function, and is highly (!) anabolic, and not very androgenic.

    Thats the good news (and theres a lot of it), now for the bad news:

    Deca Durabolin is known for producing quality weight gains, but it has to be used for 12 weeks at a minimum, judging from Steroid.com members feedback, as well as my own personal experience. This shouldnt cause any problems, since it is a very mild drug in terms of side-effects.

    Deca Durabolin Side Effects
    Many members of Steroid.com also complain of water-retention with this drug, and again, Im inclined to agree. Letrozole seems to be a preferred choice to combat this, and its my favorite for this use. This water retention would seem to make Deca Durabolin more suitable for bulking rather than cutting, although it can be successfully used for either.

    Now for the worst news: Deca Durabolin is a progestin (as are all nandrolones), unfortunately; it happens to stimulate the progesterone receptor 20% as well as progesterone itself (3), and this opens the door for many possible unwanted side effects (water retention, acne, etc...). It must be noted that most of those are rare, though. This also may be the major reason that Deca is such a suppressive drug when it comes to your natural testosterone levels. We can see from the chart below that a simgle measly 100mg injection of Deca Durabolin caused a total (100%) reduction of natural testosterone levels, and it took roughly a month to return those testosterone levels to baseline! All from 100mgs of Deca!


    The moral of this story? Always use Testosterone with your Deca Durabolin! I suggest 200mgs, minimum, to avoid impotence and sexual dysfunction. For an anabolic effect from that Testosterone, I recommend at least double that, with an equal amount of Deca Durabolin (minimum). Id also recommend taking an anti-progesteronic drug with Deca Durabolin (or at least having it on hand): Cabergoline and Bromocriptine are both good choices.

    Deca Durabolin Cycle
    So where are we? Well, Id be comfortable recommending Deca Durabolin for use in a bulking cycle at up to 600mgs/week for an extended duration (12-16 weeks), or up to 400mgs/week in a cutting cycle (again, for 12-16 weeks), as long as something to combat water retention is present. Whichever purpose you decide to use Deca for, you still need to include Testosterone in your cycle and have some anti-progesteronic drugs on hand (see paragraph above), just in case.

    Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), though beyond the scope of this profile, needs to be commented on. Due to the highly suppressive nature of Deca Durabolin, I will speculate that testosterone in a Deca Durabolin-inclusive cycle needs to be run for at least 2 additional weeks upon cessation of Deca. We remember from the chart above that baseline testosterone levels took roughly a month to return. Hence, a nice long estered testosterone should be run about 2 weeks longer than Deca Durabolin, to prevent having a lag in time when the Deca Durabolin is not producing an anabolic effect, yet is still suppressing your natural testosterone levels. Id also suggest that a particularly aggressive PCT be run after your cycle; nolvadex, HCG, and perhaps clomid should all be utilized in an effort to restore your natural hormone levels as quickly and efficiently as possible.


  • waterproof
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    WEEK 4

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    THAT'S WHAT I'M ? FEELING RIGHT NOW!!! THIS ? IS HITTING ON ALL FOUR CYLINDERS.....

    I UP MY DOSAGE THIS WEEK TO 500MG i am going to run it for 2 weeks then from week 7-12 it will be 600mg

    upping my masteron this week to 450...