Can we agree that Janklow needs to have his guns taken away now?
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These people want infamy. I read up on the Columbine dudes. They were just nuts. They weren't even bullied. They did the bullying. They were planning on blowing up the school and their cars once rescue units arrived. They initially planned the attack on the anniversary of the Oklahoma bombing. No rhyme or reason to these psychos.. Similar to this case, it was their parents legally purchased weapons. Maybe people shouldn't be allowed to have guns in the home of known psychos. But, how would you know? There seems to be a common issue that these psychos had a trail of episodes displaying their issues and abnormal behavior patterns illuminated severe mental problems before they committed mass murder.
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Considering I didn't say that they would, in fact I'm certain they won't. What I am saying is that these laws have to fit THIS timeframe and you can't rely on antiquated "constitutional" thinking to deal with current problems. You do an awesome job of cherry picking arguments I've noticed.I also haven't said what needs to be done about guns yet (but gun control including a ban should be on the table).There should also be little doubt that something needs to be done. Even "responsible" gun owners know that.Problem is that the gun manufacturers do all the talking when the NRA speaks, not the common member. Common members actually support many common sense regulations.A real debate involves the common responsible gun owner and everyone else.
if you're anti-gun, whatever, that's your position. but this continuing claim of we need to have a public debate is lame as hell. -
FuriousOne wrote: »Because church freaks don't commit heinous acts right? Interesting how this ? doesn't happen as often in less culturally christian countries. triple C's..They tried the serial numbers but criminals found away around it. So now its time to try something else.earth two superman wrote: »Gun Control does not mean ban all guns. It never has.earth two superman wrote: »It just a small, vocal minority that doesnt want background checks or doesnt think that theres anything wrong that any idiot with cash can go to a gun show and buy anything he wants.FuriousOne wrote: »Similar to this case, it was their parents legally purchased weapons.
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Joe Manchin, most conservative Dem in the Senate, lifetime "A" rating from NRA, just called for a AWB on Morning Joe.
*Flava Flav voice* Wowwwwwwwwww.
Obama's empathetic emotional side and Obama's cold-blooded Machiavellian side have clearly been at war with one another the past few days. Manchin's full-throated support for AWB will prolly convince Obama to hold his breath and take the plunge.
So there. Looks like your deadly folding stocks, pistol grips, bayonet mounts, and flash suppressors shall be contraband once again, Janklow. Oh I feel safer already. BTW that Bushmaster rifle was LEGAL under both the old AWB and CT's current AWB law. Yep. And I'm sure the Gun Industry won't like, completely neuter this law like they did the last one by making tiny cosmetic changes to ensure compliance. Yay.
Meanwhile, we'll probably continue to gut State & Federal Mental Health services, just like we have over the past few decades. And the three biggest inpatient psychiatric facilities in the country will continue to be LA County Jail, Cook County Jail, and RIKERS ? ISLAND. Yes, seriously. Here's a link if you don't believe me. Rikers. Island. -
Swiffness! wrote: »Obama's empathetic emotional side and Obama's cold-blooded Machiavellian side have clearly been at war with one another the past few days. Manchin's full-throated support for AWB will prolly convince Obama to hold his breath and take the plunge.Swiffness! wrote: »So there. Looks like your deadly folding stocks, pistol grips, bayonet mounts, and flash suppressors shall be contraband once again, Janklow. Oh I feel safer already. BTW that Bushmaster rifle was LEGAL under both the old AWB and CT's current AWB law. Yep. And I'm sure the Gun Industry won't like, completely neuter this law like they did the last one by making tiny cosmetic changes to ensure compliance. Yay.Swiffness! wrote: »Meanwhile, we'll probably continue to gut State & Federal Mental Health services, just like we have over the past few decades.
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Black market guns>
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proof that the original use for the AR-15 was for hunting:
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The irony is the areas with the strictest gun laws have the most gun related deaths and violence, we ban guns and kats will be figuring out ways to cause explosions, snipe with crossbows or gassing trapped people. A killer will find a way to ? regardless of the tools they use to ? ...