Solid gold bars could be future currency in the event of economic collapse

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Young_Chitlin
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By DAMIEN GAYLE

With Christmas coming, sales of chocolate gold coins have no doubt soared as parents get ready to fill their little ones' stockings with edible treasure. But wealthy individuals worried about what the New Year could bring are instead stocking up on gold chocolate bars. Swiss refinery Valcambi has been selling its CombiBar to private investors in Switzerland, Austria and Germany who are worried about a return of Weimar Republic-style hyperinflation.

The size of a credit card, the 50g gold CombiBars are easily be broken into one gram pieces to be used as money in times of crisis. Now the company wants to bring them to market in the U.S. and build up sales in India - the world's largest consumer of gold, where it has long served as a parallel currency.

Investors worried that inflation and financial market turmoil will wipe out the value of their cash have poured money into gold over the past decade. Prices have gained almost 500 per cent since 2001 - compared to a 12 per cent increase in MSCI's world equity index, a benchmark for the value of the world's business investments.

Sales of gold bars and coins were worth almost $77billion (£48billion) in 2011, up from just $3.5billion (£2.2billion) in 2002, according to data from the World Gold Council. 'The rich are buying standard bars or have deposits of physical gold. People that have less money are buying up to 100 grams,' said Michael Mesaric, CEO of Valcambi.
'But for many people a pure investment product is no longer enough.
They want to be able to do something with the precious metal.'

Mr Mesaric said the advantage of the CombiBar - dubbed a 'chocolate bar' because pieces can be easily broken off by hand - is that it is easily carried and is cheaper than buying 50 one gram bars. 'The produce can also be used as an alternative method of payment,' he said.

Valcambi, a unit of U.S. mining giant Newmont, is building a sales network in India and plans to launch the CombiBar on the U.S. market next year. In Japan, it wants to focus on CombiBars made of platinum and palladium. In Europe, demand is particularly strong among the Germans, still scarred by post-World War One hyperinflation, when money became all but worthless and it took a wheelbarrow full of notes to buy a loaf of bread.

'Above all, it's people aged between 40 and 70 that are investing in gold bars and coins,' said Mr Mesaric. 'They've heard tales from their parents about wars and crises devaluing money.' The CombiBar is particularly popular among grandparents who want to give their grandchildren a strip of gold rather than a coin, said Andreas Habluetzel, head of the Swiss business of Degussa, a gold trading company.

'Demand is rising every week,' Mr Habluetzel said. 'Particularly in Germany, people buying gold fear that the euro will break apart or that banks will run into problems. Some fund managers, however, remain sceptical.

Stephan Mueller, who manages bank Julius Baer's $6billion gold fund, said one problem with using gold as a method of payment is that people have to take its value on blind trust. More conventional Christmas fare: Sales of chocolate gold coins are probably soaring as well...

'Gold is a useful store of value,' Mr Mueller said. 'However I doubt whether it will succeed as a method of payment.'Nonetheless, as developments in the euro zone lurch from one crisis to another, demand for gold that can be sold in vending machines is also growing. 'Sales rise according to the temperature of the crisis,' said Thomas Geissler, whose firm Ex Oriente Lux operates 17 gold vending machines in Europe, the U.S. and the United Arab Emirates.

The machines saw record sales in 2010, one day after the then Deutsche Bank CEO Josef Ackermann raised doubts over whether Greece would be able to pay its debts. Since the launch of the machines, which operate under the name 'GOLD to go', 50,000 customers have withdrawn more than 21million euros in gold. The average buyer is male, over 50 years old and well off. 'Customers are hoarding gold mostly at home as a precaution against a crisis, just as their fathers and grandfathers did before them,' Mr Geissler said.
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  • Young_Chitlin
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  • High Revolutionary
    High Revolutionary Members Posts: 3,729 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.
  • Plutarch
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    those are some funny looking gloves. Look like heavy duty mini-condoms
  • kingblaze84
    kingblaze84 Members Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.

    Yeah, let there be no doubt about this. The cost of living is getting HIGHER and HIGHER day by day. The dollar is very weak in this country, 16 trillion in debt will do that to a currency. People I know who were born overseas wonder what ever happened to the American dream when food prices and rent is so high compared to the 70s and 60s. I tell them to blame America's selfish politicians for spending our money on wars and stealing from our social security funds.....America is gona be a nasty place in 50 years, some say it already is a nasty place, for many at least.....America is ? in the long run, my only plan is to save as much money as possible and never have kids. At this point it's every man for himself. Those that don't take my advice will have some trouble in the future....
  • kingblaze84
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    abn562 wrote: »
    man i want a gold credit/debit card, ? and ? will be mad hating lol

    Hell yeah lol.....I'd be blasting Trinidad James Gold On My Laptop using it
  • 2stepz_ahead
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    Apmex.com

    Thank me later
  • kingblaze84
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LOZhaxTw0I

    i knew trinidad james was the second coming of adam smith

    Adam Smith lol.....

    Pralims, Apmex.com?

  • kingblaze84
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    Just went to the site, it could be very useful in the near future.....
  • 2stepz_ahead
    2stepz_ahead Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 32,324 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Just went to the site, it could be very useful in the near future.....

    i ordered platinum and silver bars from them.
    the customer service is good.

    i am also using them to collect some coins too. some damn ? hobby i picked up. its like a world wide scavenger hunt for certain coins to collect a whole set.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    word Gold EBT cards also?
  • UrbanScribe
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    I use Apmex also. They are good sometimes they are way over spot unless buying in bulk.. Gold may not be the best investment though.. Do your research.
  • ivyleague
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    Gold is a major bubble right now. Wouldn't buy any if I were you.
  • ivyleague
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    I'll take my chances and ignore warnings for theeconomiccollapseblog.com.
  • rage
    rage Members Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BWAHAHAHAHH! LMAO at some arbitrary piece of metal being used as currency in 2013!! You idiots will for anything on the internet with a youtube video.
  • kingblaze84
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    ivyleague wrote: »
    I'll take my chances and ignore warnings for theeconomiccollapseblog.com.

    Don't say people didn't try to warn you.....
  • powerman 5000
    powerman 5000 Members Posts: 3,084 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.

    quoted again for emphasis...

    other countries (only one you need to be concered about is CHINA) is telling it's citizens to buy and invest in gold. Mean time in everycity, usa; you can find a Cash for Gold store front that seemed to have just popped up over night where you can sell your gold for pennies on the dollar. Gold got up to $700 -$1000 an ounce but, they're giving you $30 an ounce for it. Americans will have no gold or silver to barter with. Oh yeah, we'll have guns though....(see where this is going?) It would be a good research project to see who owns these stores and where the gold goes after you sell it...
  • rage
    rage Members Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.

    quoted again for emphasis...

    other countries (only one you need to be concered about is CHINA) is telling it's citizens to buy and invest in gold. Mean time in everycity, usa; you can find a Cash for Gold store front that seemed to have just popped up over night where you can sell your gold for pennies on the dollar. Gold got up to $700 -$1000 an ounce but, they're giving you $30 an ounce for it. Americans will have no gold or silver to barter with. Oh yeah, we'll have guns though....(see where this is going?) It would be a good research project to see who owns these stores and where the gold goes after you sell it...

    BWAHAHAHHAHAHA do you guys actually read the ? you type out? Barter with gold and silver??? Where?? For what?? How? How much gold will it take to buy a Big Mac? How much silver will it take to buy some kicks? How many gold bars are you gonna need to pay the cable bill?? Gold has 0 intrinsic value....do you get that? You cant eat it, you can't build with it, you can't drink it, you can't do ? with it aside from look at it. This is why NO countries use the Gold Standard anymore...what century are you dudes living in???
  • bankrupt baller
    bankrupt baller Members Posts: 12,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    rage wrote: »
    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.

    quoted again for emphasis...

    other countries (only one you need to be concered about is CHINA) is telling it's citizens to buy and invest in gold. Mean time in everycity, usa; you can find a Cash for Gold store front that seemed to have just popped up over night where you can sell your gold for pennies on the dollar. Gold got up to $700 -$1000 an ounce but, they're giving you $30 an ounce for it. Americans will have no gold or silver to barter with. Oh yeah, we'll have guns though....(see where this is going?) It would be a good research project to see who owns these stores and where the gold goes after you sell it...

    BWAHAHAHHAHAHA do you guys actually read the ? you type out? Barter with gold and silver??? Where?? For what?? How? How much gold will it take to buy a Big Mac? How much silver will it take to buy some kicks? How many gold bars are you gonna need to pay the cable bill?? Gold has 0 intrinsic value....do you get that? You cant eat it, you can't build with it, you can't drink it, you can't do ? with it aside from look at it. This is why NO countries use the Gold Standard anymore...what century are you dudes living in???

    there is so much wrong with this ^ lol
  • rage
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    rage wrote: »
    And make no mistake, economic collapse is coming.

    quoted again for emphasis...

    other countries (only one you need to be concered about is CHINA) is telling it's citizens to buy and invest in gold. Mean time in everycity, usa; you can find a Cash for Gold store front that seemed to have just popped up over night where you can sell your gold for pennies on the dollar. Gold got up to $700 -$1000 an ounce but, they're giving you $30 an ounce for it. Americans will have no gold or silver to barter with. Oh yeah, we'll have guns though....(see where this is going?) It would be a good research project to see who owns these stores and where the gold goes after you sell it...

    BWAHAHAHHAHAHA do you guys actually read the ? you type out? Barter with gold and silver??? Where?? For what?? How? How much gold will it take to buy a Big Mac? How much silver will it take to buy some kicks? How many gold bars are you gonna need to pay the cable bill?? Gold has 0 intrinsic value....do you get that? You cant eat it, you can't build with it, you can't drink it, you can't do ? with it aside from look at it. This is why NO countries use the Gold Standard anymore...what century are you dudes living in???

    there is so much wrong with this ^ lol

    Yet you can't name one single thing...I swear you ? will fall for damn near anything. Sold Gold bars as currency...man I thought I heard everything.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sr0gNJ090JA

    You ? have lost your minds LOL
  • ivyleague
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    ivyleague wrote: »
    I'll take my chances and ignore warnings for theeconomiccollapseblog.com.

    Don't say people didn't try to warn you.....

    Oh I won't. Glenn Beck has been trying to warn me about the downfall of society for years and now so are you. I'll give you both credit when society collapses and I don't have gold. I'll be starving and you'll be safe in your bomb shelter eating all that gold.
  • mc317
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    ? that could open up the bay of pigs thing
  • Jabu_Rule
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    Digital currency is the future. Something like bitcoin only handled by less shady characters.
  • Jabu_Rule
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    We gone be finding planets made of gold soon anyway. lol.. or at least an asteroid for mining.

    With the ability to reproduce anything with a 3D printer, we will not require as much currency as we once did. Commodities of all types will be important, especially for those that are required in electronics. This is why China is still the place for production. They have rare commodities.
  • mc317
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    ? it get amlash down to jm wave and get on this ? stat.