It's crazy how Jay's the only NY rapper that never fell off
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And smh @ vol 1 being a classic. City is mine, sunshine and I know what girls like alone should knock it down from classic to "ehhhhh, its alright"....3 1/2 mics status
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IceBergTaylor wrote: »When did Jay said Vol. 1 was his worst? This is brand spanking new news to me.
The word i used "worst" was a misstatement on my behalf, when asked out of all his albums which one would he redo he stated "In My Lifetime" because there was a few songs on there that didnt quite fit the album and kept it from being a "classic" album. He even reference Diddy completely producing his album direction as being a mistake.
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runningwolf1980 wrote: »all the ic ? in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
this "goat" term is relative...i dont give two ? about nas...tbh he bores the ? outta me. and as long as there folks like me that "goat" ? only applies to his fans...again i get it "some people like nas" -
Disciplined InSight wrote: »runningwolf1980 wrote: »all the ic ? in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z's bank account and business acumen....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
Fixed for accuracy..that's what you really meant.
thats not what i meant at all...i dont listen to whos got the bigger bank account...the ? i look like an accountant? im simply a 32 year old hip-hop fan that never liked nas..matter fact theres tons of hip-hop act i simply dont like..bottomline
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Damn, ? really mad cuz Nas is better than Jay-z. Either Jay-z is your dad or yall from Marcy Projects.
? and high post.
the bolded is opinionated the rest is a poor attempt to be funny. -
runningwolf1980 wrote: »Disciplined InSight wrote: »runningwolf1980 wrote: »all the ic ? in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z's bank account and business acumen....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
Fixed for accuracy..that's what you really meant.
thats not what i meant at all...i dont listen to whos got the bigger bank account...the ? i look like an accountant? im simply a 32 year old hip-hop fan that never liked nas..matter fact theres tons of hip-hop act i simply dont like..bottomline
I'm almost the same age as you can I ask why you never liked Nas? I never really heard that ? say he boring at times but nobody Iheard atleast disputes the fact that son is nice. -
Jay been garbage since coming back from retirement..and fell off lyrically big time (he was overrated in that aspect anyway)
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runningwolf1980 wrote: »runningwolf1980 wrote: »all the ic ? in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
this "goat" term is relative...i dont give two ? about nas...tbh he bores the ? outta me. and as long as there folks like me that "goat" ? only applies to his fans...again i get it "some people like nas"
Never said you had to but he's one of the greatest to do it period, Jay himself said so and I'm sure a bunch of other rappers too. You don't even have to be a fan to admit that.
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Admittedly Jay has declined lyrically but I'm not sure what the rest of this neck rolling and finger snapping ? is about.
Jay still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
Nas still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
? record sells...........record sales has never been a reliable indicator of musical talent. -
Jay been garbage since coming back from retirement..and fell off lyrically big time (he was overrated in that aspect anyway)
You're a typical backpacker who despised even Lupe and Kendrick Lamar.
You ? always make me laugh.
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Admittedly Jay has declined lyrically but I'm not sure what the rest of this neck rolling and finger snapping ? is about.
Jay still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
Nas still that dude and will go down in history as one of the GOAT
? record sells...........bringing up both of their record sales, commercial hits, how many shows sold out and business ventures has never been a reliable indicator of musical talent.
GOAT granted...but I had to adjust your post to bring some light in the darkness. -
The bad hip hop opinions on Kanye getting Jay on WTT.
I'm gonna start saying that Damien Marley destroyed Nas on Distant Relatives.
That's the not the equivalent but Jay didn't get outshined. -
runningwolf1980 wrote: »all the ic ? in the world isnt gonna make nas surpass jay-z....we get it you think nas is "deep"...
He doesnt need to "surpass" him, he's going down in history as one of the goats.
Just like G Rap, Rakim,etc, all irrelevant goats.
There is only one true goat to took the torch when Pac and Biggie died. One true goat who put on Just Blaze, Kanye, J Cole,etc and brought back respectability in hiphop huge tours (Hard Knock Life, Roc the Mic, BP3,etc).
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SMH at this ? Nas doing chicken shack joints to pay off the IRS. ? probably couldn't sell his masters for a basket of cheddar biscuits right now.
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CirocObama wrote: »The reason why jay has been more successful than them washed 90s ? is because he switched up hid sound and never limited himself to dusty boom nap back packers. ? likeNas marginalized their audience and pigeonholed themselves. That's why when Nas makes singles with Chris Brown, Kerry Hilson,etc itdoesnt work.
Not true. Jay-Z's business moves and his relationship with Beyonce gave his brand waaaaay more relevancy than he would've had by now. Jay-Z is a brand his name alone will sell records. He gained alot more female fans and Beyonce fans when he hooked up with her too. Same thing with Swizz when he got with Alicia. Not that it's a bad thing but don't sit there and act like Jay-Z would've been that popular still if those things didn't happen. That's why Jay-Z can be gone for 5 years without dropping albums and still remain "out there" and still do big shows. It's not cuz of his music per se.
Funny tho how relevancy is measured in popularity. A rapper is irrelevant to me when i'm no longer interested in his music or what he has to say, not cuz he isn't as popular, isn't selling as many records and not trendy anymore.
How can Nas be irrelevant when he dropped prolly the best hip-hop album this year? I loved Hip Hop Is Dead and ? too so he always has and always will catch my ear as a fan. He's here strictly based off of his music. Not cuz who he's married with, not cuz of his sponsors, not cuz of his clothing line, not cuz he sold this many records, not cuz of his investments etc. When you think of Nas you think of his music and lyricsm before anything else, so if you call a 20 year career strictly off his music irrelevant while being a true MC who never really did those big numbers anyway then i unno what to tell ya..
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Just like G Rap, Rakim,etc, all irrelevant goats.
There is only one true goat to took the torch when Pac and Biggie died. One true goat who put on Just Blaze, Kanye, J Cole,etc and brought back respectability in hiphop huge tours (Hard Knock Life, Roc the Mic, BP3,etc).
WTF is an "irrelevant goat" ??? And spell check ?SMH at this ? Nas doing chicken shack joints to pay off the IRS. ? probably couldn't sell his masters for a basket of cheddar biscuits right now.
Same song ...*yawns* -
Jay been fell off as far as music quality is concerned
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Only gold-digging females gossip and yarn about another man's finances like this ? does
Stick to the script ? ... -
"I should be number one on everybody's list.."
-Shawn Corey Carter
http://rapgenius.com/discussions/8591-The-source-top-50-lyricists-magazine-scans
Rakim would like to have a word with you. -
Only gold-digging females gossip and yarn about another man's finances like this ? does
Stick to the script ? ...Only gold-digging females gossip and yarn about another man's finances like this ? does
Oh really, then why you Nas fans up in arms when Kelis took his lunch money during the divorce?
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Rakim, Kane or G-Rap hasn't done a thing in the last 5yrs that was amazing.
These guys are in my top 10. -
Rakim, Kane or G-Rap hasn't done a thing in the last 5yrs that was amazing.
These guys are in my top 10.
...birthed the styles of this rapper we're discussing about now and plenty others. -
G Rap and Rakim tho...
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Disciplined InSight wrote: »
Yea, so? They faded away in the 90's tho.
That's why Nas, Jay as GOAT are up for grabs.
Kane is my favorite rapper but I gotta admit this.
