**Spinoff** Which one of these QBs would you pick to start your franchise

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  • joeyfkncrakk
    joeyfkncrakk Members Posts: 2,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cam Newton
    He will learn to win ESP after seeing the rookies success this year, actually turned up after that terrible 1st half of the year and played like the old Cam and got Ws... He will be a great QB needs to be a better leader though 1st
  • spit_fiya
    spit_fiya Members Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    Am I the only one who has noticed Luck's passer rating throughout the season O_o
  • goodlookinout
    goodlookinout Members Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cam Newton
    Give Cam some weapons he right on par if not better all around
  • vageneral08
    vageneral08 Members Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    woah316 wrote: »
    When ppl want to try and say Luck should get ROY over RG3, they point to his wins and "comebacks" and that he has nothing else and that RG3 has the leading rushing attack...


    First off: RG3 is a big reason the redskins have the #1 rushing attack, rofl... his ability to run, and the THREAT of him running.. thats their offense.

    2nd, RG3 already (before this dallas game even starts) has more wins against good teams than the Colts... The Colts beat 3 good teams all year and the rest are trash.. Redskins beat 4 good teams and can make it 5 tonight.


    Who cares about comebacks... A win is a win... RG3 doesnt let his team fall behind, thats all that means.



    They say the colts don't have anything but luck... But the redskins have the 28th ranked passing defense in a passing league... end of that argument...



    Add in RG3 completion % up there with manning / brady, yards per catch tops in the league, and lowest turnovers of I think ANY QB....


    And Griffin is the ROY and best player of them all.

    Wrong alfred morris is the reason why....you ? dont get it if your runningback aint ? that read option isnt as effective.....who cares about comebacks?? didnt the redskins win against the ravens in a comeback win to help them win the nfc east?????? think before you speak ? .....the colts have mostly rookies on the offensive side so what are you talking about? rg3 has more with garcon, moss, fred davis(he didnt get hurt)
  • Already Home_17
    Already Home_17 Members Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    woah316 wrote: »
    When ppl want to try and say Luck should get ROY over RG3, they point to his wins and "comebacks" and that he has nothing else and that RG3 has the leading rushing attack...


    First off: RG3 is a big reason the redskins have the #1 rushing attack, rofl... his ability to run, and the THREAT of him running.. thats their offense.

    2nd, RG3 already (before this dallas game even starts) has more wins against good teams than the Colts... The Colts beat 3 good teams all year and the rest are trash.. Redskins beat 4 good teams and can make it 5 tonight.


    Who cares about comebacks... A win is a win... RG3 doesnt let his team fall behind, thats all that means.



    They say the colts don't have anything but luck... But the redskins have the 28th ranked passing defense in a passing league... end of that argument...



    Add in RG3 completion % up there with manning / brady, yards per catch tops in the league, and lowest turnovers of I think ANY QB....


    And Griffin is the ROY and best player of them all.

    Wrong alfred morris is the reason why....you ? dont get it if your runningback aint ? that read option isnt as effective.....who cares about comebacks?? didnt the redskins win against the ravens in a comeback win to help them win the nfc east?????? think before you speak ? .....the colts have mostly rookies on the offensive side so what are you talking about? rg3 has more with garcon, moss, fred davis(he didnt get hurt)

    so you going to act like reggie wayne no longer plays with the colts? he's better than all them dudes individually and combined
  • vageneral08
    vageneral08 Members Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    woah316 wrote: »
    When ppl want to try and say Luck should get ROY over RG3, they point to his wins and "comebacks" and that he has nothing else and that RG3 has the leading rushing attack...


    First off: RG3 is a big reason the redskins have the #1 rushing attack, rofl... his ability to run, and the THREAT of him running.. thats their offense.

    2nd, RG3 already (before this dallas game even starts) has more wins against good teams than the Colts... The Colts beat 3 good teams all year and the rest are trash.. Redskins beat 4 good teams and can make it 5 tonight.


    Who cares about comebacks... A win is a win... RG3 doesnt let his team fall behind, thats all that means.



    They say the colts don't have anything but luck... But the redskins have the 28th ranked passing defense in a passing league... end of that argument...



    Add in RG3 completion % up there with manning / brady, yards per catch tops in the league, and lowest turnovers of I think ANY QB....


    And Griffin is the ROY and best player of them all.

    Wrong alfred morris is the reason why....you ? dont get it if your runningback aint ? that read option isnt as effective.....who cares about comebacks?? didnt the redskins win against the ravens in a comeback win to help them win the nfc east?????? think before you speak ? .....the colts have mostly rookies on the offensive side so what are you talking about? rg3 has more with garcon, moss, fred davis(he didnt get hurt)

    so you going to act like reggie wayne no longer plays with the colts? he's better than all them dudes individually and combined

    one guy compared to three guys I named? luck has used wayne to his advantage but he doesnt have a bigger threat offensively than rg3 does
  • Stew
    Stew Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 52,234 Regulator
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    RG3
    ? gon be heartbroken a lil bit when Griff grabs that ROTY
  • R.D.
    R.D. Members Posts: 20,156 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Russ got a strong case as well as Luck
  • txboi_09
    txboi_09 Members Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    Only reason I said Luck over RG3 is cause I think Luck is safer as far as injury cause. RG3 is the better player though IMO
  • lord nemesis
    lord nemesis Members Posts: 11,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    Taking RG3. Luck gotta cut down on them turnovers and his completion percentage ain't nothing to write home about.
  • TheBossman
    TheBossman Members Posts: 19,796 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    Luck. RG3 is a health risk

  • coop9889
    coop9889 Members Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    Jaguars and Titans? You call that hard?
  • 5th Letter
    5th Letter Members, Moderators, Writer Posts: 37,068 Regulator
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    Andrew Luck
    This QB draft feels like the year when Bron, Melo and Wade were rookies.

    Luck=Bron
    RG III=Melo
    Wilson=Wade

    with that said i chose Luck because he is asked to do more in Indy than RG III. Luck is allowed to throw more, kinda because he has to in order for them to win.
  • vageneral08
    vageneral08 Members Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    Jaguars and Titans? You call that hard?

    division games are way harder because it's like ? in a bucket they wanna pull you down and not succeed luck caught more hell in division games than RG3 just because the other division rivals dont play well against other teams dont mean they wont hand you an L (look at the saints vs falcons) ? everytime we play the titans they play us like it's the damn superbowl ? even the texans caught hell against jags
  • BDBIID
    BDBIID Members Posts: 18,803 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    Jamaica wrote: »
    This QB draft feels like the year when Bron, Melo and Wade were rookies.

    RG3=Bron
    Luck=Melo
    Wilson=Wade

    with that said i chose Luck because he is asked to do more in Indy than RG III. Luck is allowed to throw more, kinda because he has to in order for them to win.

    Fixed.
  • its....JOHN B
    its....JOHN B Members Posts: 19,830 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    Jaguars and Titans? You call that hard?

    division games are way harder because it's like ? in a bucket they wanna pull you down and not succeed luck caught more hell in division games than RG3 just because the other division rivals dont play well against other teams dont mean they wont hand you an L (look at the saints vs falcons) ? everytime we play the titans they play us like it's the damn superbowl ? even the texans caught hell against jags

    True but that goes for every division, and no division has more heated rivalrys than the NFC east, plus the competition level is a lot higher in the NFC east than the AFC south
  • vageneral08
    vageneral08 Members Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Andrew Luck
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    Jaguars and Titans? You call that hard?

    division games are way harder because it's like ? in a bucket they wanna pull you down and not succeed luck caught more hell in division games than RG3 just because the other division rivals dont play well against other teams dont mean they wont hand you an L (look at the saints vs falcons) ? everytime we play the titans they play us like it's the damn superbowl ? even the texans caught hell against jags

    True but that goes for every division, and no division has more heated rivalrys than the NFC east, plus the competition level is a lot higher in the NFC east than the AFC south

    to me on the low nfc south is the most heated division whenever they have their division games ? be tight just like carolina vs falcon game earlier this year the only reason the nfc east gets more attention because of the franchises
  • BlackAX410
    BlackAX410 Members Posts: 35,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    i saw on twitter a few days ago Luck nd RG3's stats when they had da same pass attempts nd Luck had bout 400 less yards 9 less touchdowns nd 5 more INT's lemme see if i can find dat real quick. Some of yall seriously dont think if RG3 had as many attempts as luck he wouldnt have at least 4,000 passin yards? yall think Alfred Morris carried him dis season? get da ? outta here lol
  • BlackAX410
    BlackAX410 Members Posts: 35,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    Got dis off twitter before sundays game

    RGIII has 375 attempts,lets compare Lucks first 375 att.Luck 216/375 2,715 Yards,11 TD -10 Int, 57%. RG 249/375 3, 100, 20 Td-5 Int, 67%..
  • BlackAX410
    BlackAX410 Members Posts: 35,415 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    bitter cuz RG3 eliminated his team from da playoffs post lmao @ 2-14 nd 6-10 teams wit top 10 picks being a tough division stop it
  • bless the child
    bless the child Members Posts: 5,167 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Cam Newton
    Cam Newton...If he had a good team he would be tough. He's bigger and stronger than all the other OB's on that list.
  • blackjack2012
    blackjack2012 Members Posts: 4,323 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Russel Wilson
    BlackAX410 wrote: »
    i saw on twitter a few days ago Luck nd RG3's stats when they had da same pass attempts nd Luck had bout 400 less yards 9 less touchdowns nd 5 more INT's lemme see if i can find dat real quick. Some of yall seriously dont think if RG3 had as many attempts as luck he wouldnt have at least 4,000 passin yards? yall think Alfred Morris carried him dis season? get da ? outta here lol

    Alfred morris is the most underrated player in the league, he's the reason why they in the playoffs. His season has been more impressive than rg3.
  • blakfyahking
    blakfyahking Members Posts: 15,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    RG3
    coop9889 wrote: »
    RG3 is gonna win it cuz the media likes him more than luck.

    Who is the better QB? Luck, and it's not even close.

    He has to do WAYYYYYYY more than RG3 and ended up winning more games too, in a harder division.

    only a Cowboy fan would say something this stupid in the face of facts


    so we all just gon pretend like Luck hasn't been overhyped way more than RG3 since they both initially became draft prospects
  • fightforolddc
    fightforolddc Members Posts: 981 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    so we all just gon pretend like Luck hasn't been overhyped way more than RG3 since they both initially became draft prospects

    Bro, turn on TV. RG3 already doin Gatorade, Adidas, Subway, EA Sports commercials, and won the Heisman which the media votes for. Media does like him more than Luck, you'd be blind to ignore that.

    Now the question is whether or not he deserves more attention -- which I'd agree he does based on personality, fan appeal, star qualities. Luck sounds like a dork, which isn't very marketable.
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