Michael Jordan is trollin' ? . Smh
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Bettet defenders in the NBA then back then.
Lmao at thinking a ? like Mchale Worthy and Lambeer checking ? like Dirk Bosh and KG
They ain't never seen big men who can out the ball on the ground or shoot the rock from any where on the court -
Bird, Mark Price, Mitch Richmond, English, Mullin, Miller, I go as far to add Thunder Dan, Tooney, Gervin, B. Scott,
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Dumars, the Microwave, Hawkins.
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Toney* and also Hornacek could shoot very well
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Mitch no
Gervin no
Besides Bird and Miller(not even a 80's player) the rest of them ? don't qualify.
Melo, Dirk, Kobe, Pierce, KG, Bosh, and KD players with better mid range game more athletic and all better finishers at the rim.
Smh at you naming specialist instead of ? with all around game. -
Shizlansky wrote: »WhoisDonG??? wrote: »Plus players today lack fundamentals. Name 10 players that midrange game is just nasty. Most players back in the day had that in between game. Truthfully thats what made Mike so unstoppable if u back up and play the drive that in between game would light your ass up all day. Sure players more athletic now but that don't make them better ball players.
Who is these great mid range players from back in the day.
Them teams from the 80's couldn't ? with the good teams from today.
Idgaf what nobody say.
The ball handling skills and ability to get to the rim of today players is no joke.
Players like Wade, Manu, etc would destroyed these ? with that euro step.
The best two teams of all time I every seen even the ones from back in the day cuz I seen plenty of old school games is Jordan second set of Championships and Shaq/Kobe Lakers.
Those Boston and Detroit teams from the 80's wouldn't come close to beating the Heat, Thunder, Clippers, Boston, Bulls, Lakers, and Spurs when all healthy.
The Lake show would have problems also.
Players today are allowed to get away with the carrying the ball and traveling a great deal, guys from back then didn't have that luxury so they couldn't show the full array of talent but they were just as athletic and electric as today.
Start at 1:35 mark....
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smittysmith wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »WhoisDonG??? wrote: »Plus players today lack fundamentals. Name 10 players that midrange game is just nasty. Most players back in the day had that in between game. Truthfully thats what made Mike so unstoppable if u back up and play the drive that in between game would light your ass up all day. Sure players more athletic now but that don't make them better ball players.
Who is these great mid range players from back in the day.
Them teams from the 80's couldn't ? with the good teams from today.
Idgaf what nobody say.
The ball handling skills and ability to get to the rim of today players is no joke.
Players like Wade, Manu, etc would destroyed these ? with that euro step.
The best two teams of all time I every seen even the ones from back in the day cuz I seen plenty of old school games is Jordan second set of Championships and Shaq/Kobe Lakers.
Those Boston and Detroit teams from the 80's wouldn't come close to beating the Heat, Thunder, Clippers, Boston, Bulls, Lakers, and Spurs when all healthy.
The Lake show would have problems also.
Players today are allowed to get away with the carrying the ball and traveling a great deal, guys from back then didn't have that luxury so they couldn't show the full array of talent but they were just as athletic and electric as today.
Start at 1:35 mark....http://youtu.be/zN0ruk2SJ2Q
And players use to get away with mad fouls.
Watched the vid and still not better then todays players. -
Shizlansky wrote: »Mitch no
Gervin no
Besides Bird and Miller(not even a 80's player) the rest of them ? don't qualify.
Melo, Dirk, Kobe, Pierce, KG, Bosh, and KD players with better mid range game more athletic and all better finishers at the rim.
Smh at you naming specialist instead of ? with all around game.
I said shooters for one, not all around game, two Miller started playing in the 80s, and three both Mitch and Gervin could shoot and do it well -
Shizlansky wrote: »
Alex English
James Worthy
Dale Ellis
Mark Price
Glen Rice
Mitch Richmond
Danny Ainge
Larry Bird
Mike Jordan
John Stockton
etc...
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And back in the day was covering 80s to early 90s. And you sleeping on A. English and etc. and lol at you saying Bosh and KG shoot better than the cats I mention. And I'll as far as saying they shoot better than Melo, who at many times can be a volume shooter
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Naw bruh guy overrated a lot of thrm ? on that list
Especially Worthy mid range game.
And most of them ? is easily locked up by these wing players of today.
Players are just all around better then past bruh that's a fact.
That's like saying football is better in the 80's cuz they was more physical.
Talent level is way up in every sport.
? in the 50's 60's and 70's had better mid range but probably wouldnt win a game in the league today bruh
Talent level increase.
And bruh, its the NBA if you leave somebody open for a 15 to 20 foot shoot they will hit it.
Some maybe most of them ? can't create their own shot. -
P swayze166 wrote: »? forgot mcchale?? Smh
We didn't. He couldn't carry a team on his back. One the best complimentary players ever....but could you realistically build a title team with McHale as the focal point? -
Shizlansky wrote: »Naw bruh guy overrated a lot of thrm ? on that list
Especially Worthy mid range game.
And most of them ? is easily locked up by these wing players of today.
Players are just all around better then past bruh that's a fact.
That's like saying football is better in the 80's cuz they was more physical.
Talent level is way up in every sport.
? in the 50's 60's and 70's had better mid range but probably wouldnt win a game in the league today bruh
Talent level increase.
And bruh, its the NBA if you leave somebody open for a 15 to 20 foot shoot they will hit it.
Some maybe most of them ? can't create their own shot.
ehh, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one my dude, those guys could shoot the ball and an era is not gonna dictate how you shoot the ball, I mean think of guys like Rip Hamilton. Was he really all that more superior athletically than to his counterparts of the 80s/early 90s? Was he more athletically superior to the guys of 10 years ago? He got his mid range buckets through hardwork, screens, and just having a really good jumper -
you don't think great players from any era couldn't adapt to the rules? You say the defense was tougher back then (which it was) but you don't think a player like Melo couldn't adjust to the aggressiveness of the defense Y'all act like these cats would just ball up in the fetal position at the mighty 80's and 90's defense.
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oh and y'all act like there weren't soft players in the NBA during the 80's and 90's.
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MJ can't evaluate players or clothes, ? need to go play golf
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Big men play way different now than they did back then. It'd be interesting because the fact that virtually every big man today has a jumper would certainly affect how a team from the 80's or even 90's would defend them when it wasn't normal at all for 6'10 and up players to be launching 3's left and right. And big men today are more athletic due to having to defend more on the perimeter than before. If you take a group of players that grew up playing the style of ball played in the 80's vs. the style of ball being played today today's it'd really come down to individual matchups because the main difference would be the simple fact that players like Kevin Durant simply didn't exist before. There were no players like him who could literally play every position on the floor and still ? you from 30 ft. with 3's.
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? today cant hit wide open shots be missing free throws all the time... basketball players back then were more complete thats why zones didnt work like it does today vs athletic ? with no fundamentals
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Shizlansky wrote: »
without naming superstars off the top of my head...Toni Kukoc, Dan Marjerle, Spree, Tim and Penny Hardaway, KJ, Grant Hill, Mitch Richmond, Glen Rice and Robinson -
There are some players that would succeed from this era in the 90s and some that wouldnt...just like there are some players that were stars in the 90s that wouldnt be stars now...
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? today cant hit wide open shots be missing free throws all the time... basketball players back then were more complete thats why zones didnt work like it does today vs athletic ? with no fundamentals
zones were illegal in the 80s and 90s bro -
i know but back then the dialogue was that zones wouldnt work. everyone could shoot. all those role player white boys (ainges/hornaceks, paxons) were not missing if left open. back then those guys could start cuz shooting and freethrows were a priority. today "potential and athleticism" seems to matter more and the game has suffered IMO -
i know but back then the dialogue was that zones wouldnt work. everyone could shoot. all those role player white boys (ainges/hornaceks, paxons) were not missing if left open. back then those guys could start cuz shooting and freethrows were a priority. today "potential and athleticism" seems to matter more and the game has suffered IMO
ainge and hornacek were allstars bruh -
? today cant hit wide open shots be missing free throws all the time... basketball players back then were more complete thats why zones didnt work like it does today vs athletic ? with no fundamentals
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Yet teams still ran them, Celtics and Pistons were notorious for the 1-4 Box and matchup zones. League GM's and coaches sent complaints to league officials every year but fell on deaf ears. I won't even talk about the "Jordan rules" which were nothing more than a elaborate matchup zone.
