Rewriting Evolution ~ Darwin was wrong

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  • indyman87
    indyman87 Members Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭✭
    The law of creation is the law of cycles which says that the end point is the same as the beginning point. We came from '? ' not a single cell organism and the universe was not born from a chaotic mass that atheist describe as 'nothing'.
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They're probably creationist scientist.

    WHo cares about them??

    They believe that the Grand Canyon was because of the Flood.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way

    @kai......

    Please do not confuse my argument with that of anyone else.......
  • Gold_Certificate
    Gold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ohhhla wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    since when did a theory become fact?

    1st strike. 2 more and you will be certified ? .

    Scientific Theories are observable facts that must be falsifiable.

    It's a fact and theory because theories explain ? unlike Creationism which is not even a model.
    Nah b. Scientific theories are basically explanations--that must be falsifiable--about observable phenomena.

    For example: Humans observe that hotter water sometimes freezes faster than colder water; then someone says that they think it happens due to convection.
  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way
    only in science can the they mix up the truth with fantasy.


    but this has nothing to do with gravity. its about mankind and where we came from.



    slight difference.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ohhhla wrote: »
    They're probably creationist scientist.

    WHo cares about them??

    They believe that the Grand Canyon was because of the Flood.

    Yeah these guys are all creationists.....

    Please watch.... only 2 mins.....


    http://youtu.be/-bMQkAqxNeE
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Demonstrate your Magical genie right now.

    And inb4 Atheist believes in nothing when there is really no such thing as nothing in terms of science.
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ohhhla wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    since when did a theory become fact?

    1st strike. 2 more and you will be certified ? .

    Scientific Theories are observable facts that must be falsifiable.

    It's a fact and theory because theories explain ? unlike Creationism which is not even a model.
    Nah b. Scientific theories are basically explanations--that must be falsifiable--about observable phenomena.

    For example: Humans observe that hotter water sometimes freezes faster than colder water; then someone says that they think it happens due to convection.

    Typo, bruh, and I gave you ether.
  • Gold_Certificate
    Gold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way
    Nah b. Gravity is an observable phenomena. Theories are the attempts to explain how/why gravity occurs.

    I'd say it's because mass warps space-time.
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    They're probably creationist scientist.

    WHo cares about them??

    They believe that the Grand Canyon was because of the Flood.

    Yeah these guys are all creationists.....

    Please watch.... only 2 mins.....


    http://youtu.be/-bMQkAqxNeE

    If not, they're using an Argument from Personal Incredulity.
  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    you demonstrate how their ISNT a ? ..

    ok, here-

    how did the computer make itself.

    quick. answer.
  • Gold_Certificate
    Gold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    So how does this involve the article in the first post of this thread?
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    This thread was established for the sole purpose of "debunking" or "proving" that the theory of evolution is bogus......

    And the engine of scientific racism................

    I believe that this is a G&S topic........

    But will move to the R&R in a few days.............

    I will be compiling evidence here that sheds doubt on evolution and Darwinism......
    I see.

    So you are arguing against specific theories of how biological evolution rather than arguing against the fact the biological evolution occurs?

    In the first instance, I am arguing that new research has shown that previous evolutionary theories were incorrect and have to be rewritten.......
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=42382&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews#.USlPyWdnCSo

    The second illustrates that the "Tree of Life" accepted by many scientists.........

    Has now been shown to be an "antiquated" system of describing life-systems.......
    http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/2009-February/004416.html
    I see. I thought you were trying to "debunk" biological evolution.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    So how does this involve the article in the first post of this thread?
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    This thread was established for the sole purpose of "debunking" or "proving" that the theory of evolution is bogus......

    And the engine of scientific racism................

    I believe that this is a G&S topic........

    But will move to the R&R in a few days.............

    I will be compiling evidence here that sheds doubt on evolution and Darwinism......
    I see.

    So you are arguing against specific theories of how biological evolution rather than arguing against the fact the biological evolution occurs?

    In the first instance, I am arguing that new research has shown that previous evolutionary theories were incorrect and have to be rewritten.......
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=42382&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews#.USlPyWdnCSo

    The second illustrates that the "Tree of Life" accepted by many scientists.........

    Has now been shown to be an "antiquated" system of describing life-systems.......
    http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/2009-February/004416.html
    I see. I thought you were trying to "debunk" biological evolution.

    I am.....

    You know what's going on here..............

  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    you demonstrate how their ISNT a ? ..

    ok, here-

    how did the computer make itself.

    quick. answer.

    You're shifting the burden of proof you can't do that.

    Positive claims require extraordinary evidence.

    That's like someone who tells me they have an invisible dragon in my garage.

    I tell them I don't believe them

    And he tells me to disprove it

    It's not my job to disprove it, it's your job to prove it to me.
  • Gold_Certificate
    Gold_Certificate Members Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    So how does this involve the article in the first post of this thread?
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    This thread was established for the sole purpose of "debunking" or "proving" that the theory of evolution is bogus......

    And the engine of scientific racism................

    I believe that this is a G&S topic........

    But will move to the R&R in a few days.............

    I will be compiling evidence here that sheds doubt on evolution and Darwinism......
    I see.

    So you are arguing against specific theories of how biological evolution rather than arguing against the fact the biological evolution occurs?

    In the first instance, I am arguing that new research has shown that previous evolutionary theories were incorrect and have to be rewritten.......
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=42382&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews#.USlPyWdnCSo

    The second illustrates that the "Tree of Life" accepted by many scientists.........

    Has now been shown to be an "antiquated" system of describing life-systems.......
    http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/2009-February/004416.html
    I see. I thought you were trying to "debunk" biological evolution.

    I am.....

    You know what's going on here..............
    But you're only arguing against theories that attempt to explain how/why biological evolution occurs.

    You're not arguing that biological evolution does not occur, right?
  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way
    only in science can the they mix up the truth with fantasy.


    but this has nothing to do with gravity. its about mankind and where we came from.



    slight difference.


    that's totally the opposite of science actually

    also evolution says nothing about the origin of life, it only comes into play once life already exists

    there is no slight difference, you attempt to discredit evolution by calling it a theory, when gravity is "just a theory" as well. you mistakenly believe theory in science means the same thing that theory does in the colloquial sense, probably due to the fact that you are scientifically illiterate like many adults in this country.

    shuddup. this isnt your conversation. aint you muslim? then you should know your roll. i thought muslim women were well trained.
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    you demonstrate how their ISNT a ? ..

    ok, here-

    how did the computer make itself.

    quick. answer.

    Computers are not natural.

    Humans, plants, other animals are.

    It took time for us to evolve.

    Computers are intelligently designed we are not far from it.

    It's not even funny.
  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ohhhla wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    you demonstrate how their ISNT a ? ..

    ok, here-

    how did the computer make itself.

    quick. answer.

    You're shifting the burden of proof you can't do that.

    Positive claims require extraordinary evidence.

    That's like someone who tells me they have an invisible dragon in my garage.

    I tell them I don't believe them

    And he tells me to disprove it

    It's not my job to disprove it, it's your job to prove it to me.

    im reading a bunch of gibberish ^^

    answer the question-

    how did the computer make itself.
  • Neophyte Wolfgang
    Neophyte Wolfgang Members Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can see there is little abstract thinking in this thread. Evolution is no where near proven to be true and the theory and gravity is suspect also. I would explain, but it would go over many head.

    Here is a small article on it, not the best, but there are many more. For every paper supporting a theory there is one to go against it. Nothing is set in stone in science. For example Genetics......that theory was found to be flawed and incorrect which lead to the discovery of epigenetics. Science is constantly changing and the puzzle is no where near close to being solved
  • Neophyte Wolfgang
    Neophyte Wolfgang Members Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    you demonstrate how their ISNT a ? ..

    ok, here-

    how did the computer make itself.

    quick. answer.

    You're shifting the burden of proof you can't do that.

    Positive claims require extraordinary evidence.

    That's like someone who tells me they have an invisible dragon in my garage.

    I tell them I don't believe them

    And he tells me to disprove it

    It's not my job to disprove it, it's your job to prove it to me.

    im reading a bunch of gibberish ^^

    answer the question-

    how did the computer make itself.

    A computer was made by a Human being.

    You're using the "The Watchmaker argument" we've put this to rest years ago.

    Humans and Computer are completely different.

    Humans are natural while computers are intelligently designed.
  • Premeer
    Premeer Members Posts: 2,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    kai_valya wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way
    Nah b. Gravity is an observable phenomena. Theories are the attempts to explain how/why gravity occurs.

    I'd say it's because mass warps space-time.

    evolution is an observable phenomena as well. i guess the explanation of how it works is the theory of evolution

    are theory/laws interchangeable in physics?

    word... i watched a frog grow wings and start flying because somebody launched it in the sky.. and the change of habitat forced it to grow wings and land safely.

    evolution is amazing.

    errrr.. fantasy.
  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    100 Prime wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    kai_valya wrote: »
    100 Prime wrote: »
    ohhhla wrote: »
    This isn't a intelligent conversation.

    It's ID-iots supporter trying to his/her hardest trying to disprove something that's a fact.

    We all share a common ancestor which happened to be a Black Woman.

    And Change over time does occur.

    Darwin was wrong about a lot of things.

    But about Natural selection he wasn't wrong.

    everything about evolution is a theory... or did you forget that part.

    you do know that gravity is "just a theory" right. why don't you jump off the empire state building since it's just a theory

    this is supposed to be t/s compelling/intelligent argument?

    evolution is a very simple and very real process of life. it also doesn't require your belief in order to exist, facts are kinda wonderful that way
    Nah b. Gravity is an observable phenomena. Theories are the attempts to explain how/why gravity occurs.

    I'd say it's because mass warps space-time.

    evolution is an observable phenomena as well. i guess the explanation of how it works is the theory of evolution

    are theory/laws interchangeable in physics?

    word... i watched a frog grow wings and start flying because somebody launched it in the sky.. and the change of habitat forced it to grow wings and land safely.

    evolution is amazing.

    errrr.. fantasy.


    Word, I saw a chicken being created of out thin air.

    Wow, creationism is amazing.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 2013
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    So how does this involve the article in the first post of this thread?
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    This thread was established for the sole purpose of "debunking" or "proving" that the theory of evolution is bogus......

    And the engine of scientific racism................

    I believe that this is a G&S topic........

    But will move to the R&R in a few days.............

    I will be compiling evidence here that sheds doubt on evolution and Darwinism......
    I see.

    So you are arguing against specific theories of how biological evolution rather than arguing against the fact the biological evolution occurs?

    In the first instance, I am arguing that new research has shown that previous evolutionary theories were incorrect and have to be rewritten.......
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/?p=42382&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews#.USlPyWdnCSo

    The second illustrates that the "Tree of Life" accepted by many scientists.........

    Has now been shown to be an "antiquated" system of describing life-systems.......
    http://postbiota.org/pipermail/tt/2009-February/004416.html
    I see. I thought you were trying to "debunk" biological evolution.

    I am.....

    You know what's going on here..............
    But you're only arguing against theories that attempt to explain how/why biological evolution occurs.

    You're not arguing that biological evolution does not occur, right?

    This is where we get into semantics............

    Biological evolution as it describes change over time exists and cannot be debunked........

    However......

    Biological evolution as describing how one species can evolve into many is horseshit.........

    And will be debunked in this thread.........


  • ohhhla
    ohhhla Members Posts: 10,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
    U.S. educational system failed us.

    Sad, we're in the information age

    And we still believe in Noah's ark, Adam and Eve, and the Earth being 6,000 years old.

    Thank goodness, I ain't going to have kids.