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  • bambu
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    CHAPTER VII

    The Friendship of Jesus and Lamaas--Jesus Explains to Lamaas the Meaning of Truth




    1. Among the priests of Jagannath was one who loved the Jewish boy. Lamaas Bramas was the name by which the priest was known.

    2. One day as Jesus and Lamaas walked alone in Plaza Jagannath, Lamaas said: "My Jewish master, what is truth?"

    3. And Jesus said: "Truth is the only thing that changes not.

    4. In all the world there are two things; The one is truth; the other is falsehood, and falsehood that which seems to be.

    5. Now truth is aught and has no cause, and yet it is the cause of everything.

    6. Falsehood is naught, and yet it is the manifest of right.

    7. Whatever has been made will be unmade; that which begins must end.

    8. All things that can be seen by human eyes are manifests of aught, are naught, and so must pass away.

    9. The things we see are but reflexes just appearing, while the ethers vibrate so and so, and when conditions change they disappear.

    10. The Holy Breath is truth; is that which was, and is, and evermore shall be; it cannot change nor pass away."

    11. Lamaas said: "You answer well, now what is man?"

    12. And Jesus said, "Man is the truth and falsehood strangely mixed.

    13. Man is the Breath made flesh; so truth and falsehood are conjoined in him; and they strive, and naught goes down and man as truth abides."

    14. Again Lamaas asked: "What do you say of power?"

    15. And Jesus said: "It is a manifest; is the result of force; it is but naught; it is illusion, nothing more. Force changes not, but power changes as the ethers change.

    16. "Force is the will of Allah and is omnipotent, and power is that will in manifest, directed by the Breath."

    17. "There is power in the winds, a power in the waves, a power in the lightning's stroke, a power in the human arm, a power in the eye."

    18. "The ethers cause these powers to be, and thought of Elohim, of angel, man, or other thinking things, directs the force; when it has done its work the power is no more."

    19. Again Lamaas asked: "Of understanding, what have you to say?"

    20. And Jesus said: "It is the rock on which man builds himself; it is the Gnosis of the aught and of the naught, of falsehood and of truth."

    21. "It is the knowledge of the lower self; the sensing of the powers of man himself."

    22. Again Lamaas asked: "Of wisdom what have you to say?"

    23. And Jesus said: "It is the consciousness that man is aught; that Allah and man are one;

    24. That naught is naught; that power is but illusion; that heaven and earth and hell are not above, around, below, but in; which in the light of aught becomes the naught, and Allah is all."

    25. Lamaas asked: "Pray, what is faith?"

    26. And Jesus said: "Faith is the surety of the omnipotence of Allah and man; the certainty that man will reach the deific life.

    27. Salvation is a ladder reaching from the heart of man to heart of Allah.

    28. It has three steps; Belief is first, and this is what man thinks, perhaps, is truth.

    29. And faith is next, and this is what man knows is truth.

    30. Fruition is the last, and this is man himself, the truth.

    31. Belief is lost in faith; and in fruition is lost; and man is saved when he has reached deific life; when he and Allah are one."

  • bambu
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    Chapter VIII

    Jesus Reveals to the People of Their Sinful Ways




    1. In all the cities of Orissa Jesus taught. At Katak, by the river side, He taught, and thousands of the people followed him.

    2 One day a car of Jagannath was hauled along by scores of frenzied men, and Jesus said:

    3. "Behold, a form without a spirit passes by; a body with no soul; a temple with no altar fires.

    4. This car of Krishna is an empty thing, for Krishna is not there.

    5. This car is but an idol of a people ? on wine of carnal things.

    6. Allah lives not in the noise of tongues; there is no way to Him from any idol shrine.

    7. Allah's meeting place with man is in the heart, and in a still small voice he speaks; and he who hears is still."

    8. And all the people said: "Teach us to know the Holy One who speaks within the heart, Allah of the still small voice."

    9. And Jesus said, "The Holy Breath cannot be seen with mortal eyes; nor can men see the spirits of the Holy One.

    10. But in their image man was made, and he who looks into the face of man, looks at the image of the Allah who speaks within.

    11. And when man honors man, he honors Allah, and what man does for man he does for Allah.

    12. And you must bear in mind that when man harms in thought or word or deed another man, he does a wrong to Allah.

    13. If you would serve the Allah who speaks within the heart, just serve your near of kin, and those that are no kin, the stranger at your gates, the foe who seeks to do you harm.

    14. Assist the poor, and help the weak; do harm to none, and covet not what is not yours.

    15. Then, with your tongue the Holy One will speak; and he will smile behind your tears, will light your countenance with joy, and fill your hearts with peace."

    16. And then the people asked: "To whom shall we bring gifts? Where shall we offer sacrifice?"

    17. And Jesus said: "Our Father--Allah asks not for needless waste of plant, of grain, of dove, of lamb.

    18. That which you burn on any shrine you throw away. No blessings can attend the one who takes the food from hungry mouths to be destroyed by fire.

    19. When you would offer sacrifice unto Allah, just take your gift of grain, or meat, and lay it on the table of the poor.

    20. From it an incense will arise to heaven, which will return to you with blessedness.

    21. Tear down your idols; they can hear you not; turn all your sacrificial altars into fuel for the flames.

    22. Make human hearts your altars, and burn your sacrifices with the fire of love."

    23. And all the people were entranced, and would have worshiped Jesus as a ? ; but Jesus said:

    24. "I am your brother man just come to show the way to Allah; you shall not worship man; praise Allah the Holy One."

  • bambu
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    CHAPTER IX

    Jesus attends a feast in Behar and Here He Taught Human Equality.



    1. The fame of Jesus as a teacher spread through all the land, and people came from near and far to hear His words of truth.

    2. At Behar, on the sacred river of the Brahms, he taught for many days.

    3. And Ach, a wealthy man of Behar, made a feast in honor of his guest, and he invited every one to come.

    4. And many came; among them thieves, extortioners, and courtesans. And Jesus sat with them and taught; but they who followed him were much aggrieved, because He sat with thieves and courtesans.

    5. And they upbraided Him; they said: "Rabboni, master of the wise, this day will be an evil day for you.

    6. The news will spread that you consort with courtesans and men will shun you as they shun an asp."

    7. And Jesus answered them and said: "A master never screens himself for sake of reputation or of fame.

    8. These are but worthless baubles of the day; they arise and sink, like empty bottles on a stream; they are illusions and will pass away;

    9. They are the indices to what the thoughtless think; they are the noise that people make; and shallow men judge merit by the noise.

    10. Allah and all master men judge men by what they are and not by what they seem to be; not by their reputation and their fame.

    11. These courtesans and thieves are children of my Father Allah; their soul are just as precious in His sight as yours, or of the Brahmic priests.

    12. And they are working out the same life sums that you have solved, you men who look at them with scorn.

    13. And some of them have solved much harder sums than you have solved, you men who look at them with scorn.

    14. Yes, they are sinners, and confess their guilt while you are guilty, but are shrewd enough to have a polished coat to cover up your guilt.

    15. Suppose you men who scorn the courtesans, these drunkards and these thieves, who know that you are pure in heart and life, that you are better far than they, stand forth that men may know just who you are.

    16. The sin lies in the wish, in the desire, not in the act.

    17. You covet other people's wealth; you look at charming forms, and deep within your hearts you ? for them.

    18. Deceit you practice every day, and wish for gold, for honor and for fame, just for your selfish selves.

    19. The man who covets is a thief, and she who lusts is courtesan. You who are none of these speak out."

    20. Nobody spoke; the accusers held their peace.

    21. And Jesus said: "The proof this day is all against those who have accused.

    22. The pure in heart do not accuse. The vile in heart who want to cover up their guilt with holy smoke of piety are ever loathing drunkard, thief and courtesans.

    23. This loathing and this scorn is mockery, for if the tinseled coat of reputation could be torn away, the loud professor would be found to revel in his ? , deceit and many forms of secret sin.

    24. The man who spends his time in pulling other people's weeds can have no time to pull his own, and all the choicest flowers of life will soon be choked and die, and nothing will remain but darnel, thistles and burs."

    25. And Jesus spoke a parable; He said: "Behold, a farmer had great fields of ripened grain, and when he looked he saw that blades of many stalks of wheat were bent and broken down.

    26. And when he sent his reapers forth he said 'We will not save the stalks of wheat that have the broken blades.

    27. Go forth and cut and burn the stalks with broken blades.'

    28. And after many days he went to measure up his grain, but not a kernel could he find.

    29. And then he called the harvesters and said to them: 'Where is my grain?'

    30. They answered him and said: 'We did according to your word; we gathered up and burned the stalks with broken blades, and not a stalk was left to carry to the barn.'

    31. And Jesus said: "If Allah saves only those who have no broken blades, who have been perfected in His sight, who will be saved?"

    32. And the accusers hung their heads in shame; and Jesus went His way.

  • bambu
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    @janklow.........

    Let brother @Ziryab cook.......

    He does not appear to be soliciting anything............

    And there is a good history lesson in there.................

  • Cock_Lesner
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    ? is ? , regardless of what your belief system is brother.
  • janklow
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    bambu wrote: »
    @janklow.........
    Let brother @Ziryab cook......
    He does not appear to be soliciting anything............
    And there is a good history lesson in there.................
    wait, all jokes aside, what are we talking about

  • Black Boy King
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    janklow wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    @janklow.........
    Let brother @Ziryab cook......
    He does not appear to be soliciting anything............
    And there is a good history lesson in there.................
    wait, all jokes aside, what are we talking about

    birthright theft
  • bambu
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    janklow wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    @janklow.........
    Let brother @Ziryab cook......
    He does not appear to be soliciting anything............
    And there is a good history lesson in there.................
    wait, all jokes aside, what are we talking about

    The great conspiracy........



  • janklow
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    bambu wrote: »
    The great conspiracy........
    ..."wait, all jokes aside, what are we talking about"

  • Black Boy King
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    janklow wrote: »
    bambu wrote: »
    The great conspiracy........
    ..."wait, all jokes aside, what are we talking about"

    Birthright theft
  • janklow
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    Ziryab wrote: »
    Birthright theft
    pretty sure this did not answer my question the first time

  • Black Boy King
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    janklow wrote: »
    Ziryab wrote: »
    Birthright theft
    pretty sure this did not answer my question the first time

    It did. Maybe you dont innerstand it...?
  • janklow
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    Ziryab wrote: »
    It did. Maybe you dont innerstand it...?
    maybe you missed the part where i was asking a question about Bambu's statement