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Drew_Ali
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Another Affirmative Action Case for the Supreme Court?

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The U.S. Supreme Court is already considering the highly charged Fisher v. University of Texas case, a challenge to the school's use of race as a consideration in its admissions process, and now it's taking on another affirmative action case: Schuette v. Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, the New York Times reports. The case concerns a ballot measure in Michigan that eliminated race-based admissions in public universities. The measure passed but was overturned in November by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit.

This isn't the first time the Supreme Court has heard a Michigan-based affirmative action case. Ten years ago, in the landmark Grutter v. Bollinger case, the Supreme Court upheld the affirmative action policies at the University of Michigan Law School.

2013 is the year of controversial social issues for the Supreme Court. Justices are now hearing arguments in a case that will decide the fate of marriage equality across the U.S.

Read more at the New York Times.http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/26/us/justices-take-new-case-on-affirmative-action.html?ref=us&_r=0

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  • 7figz
    7figz Members Posts: 15,294 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    Keep affirmative alive. (but only for Black people)

    Can't be having these ? ass honkeys white folk trying to abuse the system.
  • blacktux
    blacktux Members Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Never really cared for affirmative action, desegregation or none of that. All that causes is white admiration and dependency.
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh
  • Trollio
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  • Gucci Scott King
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    People bash A.A., yet have no problem with legacy admissions.
  • Drew_Ali
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE
  • playmaker88
    playmaker88 Members Posts: 67,905 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    Very necessary
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm
  • unRealLady1
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  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *cough* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

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    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

  • Rahlow
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    Whats Affirmative Action? I'm a Los Angelino, Californian and it was banned here since 1996.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposition_209
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    Some more than others.........

    Our sources may be the same.....

    However they provided no report or specific research for those claims........

    SMH @ you making up incredible ? .........




  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    Some more than others.........

    Our sources may be the same.....

    However they provided no report or specific research for those claims........

    SMH @ you trying to "win" so much that you would make up incredible ? .........




    "Win"? ? there's nothing in this ? for me. Its facts, you need to have the facts about some ? if you trying to have a conversation about it.

    I don't even agree that it needs to be eliminated, but its not a black friendly program...it benefits white women mostly...as proven by your graph that shows black unemployment is still the highest and much higher than it should be.


    This Affirmative Action ? is just like welfare, its passed off as unfairly helping black people and it isn't.

    And the report is called the Glass Celings Commission fyi, released in 1996.
  • Undefeatable
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    AA is needed for justice, not diversity.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    Some more than others.........

    Our sources may be the same.....

    However they provided no report or specific research for those claims........

    SMH @ you trying to "win" so much that you would make up incredible ? .........




    Its facts, you need to have the facts about some ? if you trying to have a conversation about it.

    ...it benefits white women mostly....

    And the report is called the Glass Celings Commission fyi, released in 1996.

    Exactly......

    You entered this conversation with a sensational claim........

    & provided no sources / facts for them.......

    The Federal Glass Ceiling Commission suggest that the underlying cause of the glass ceiling is the perception of many white males that as a group they are losing control of their advancement opportunities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling


  • jono
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    You also have to understand Affirmative Action has been expanded to include the disabled and veterans. This ? isn't some cure to black ills, its a political football...at worst its merely lip service.

    Chances are when you apply for a job you don't know the qualifications of anyone else who applied. Businesses also don't have to choose the highest score (if tests are taking place) or the second highest score, in fact they pick who the hell they want, how you gonna know?


    Crackas are naturally gonna complain that they got looked over for an "affirmative action" hire. They have a superiority complex and are totally ignorant about how this ? even works.
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    Some more than others.........

    Our sources may be the same.....

    However they provided no report or specific research for those claims........

    SMH @ you trying to "win" so much that you would make up incredible ? .........




    Its facts, you need to have the facts about some ? if you trying to have a conversation about it.

    ...it benefits white women mostly....

    And the report is called the Glass Celings Commission fyi, released in 1996.

    Exactly......

    You entered this conversation with a sensational claim........

    & provided no sources / facts for them.......

    The Federal Glass Ceiling Commission suggest that the underlying cause of the glass ceiling is the perception of many white males that as a group they are losing control of their advancement opportunities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling


    The facts are sensational?
    Smh okay...whatever bruh lol.
  • Drew_Ali
    Drew_Ali Members Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    Some more than others.........

    Our sources may be the same.....

    However they provided no report or specific research for those claims........

    SMH @ you trying to "win" so much that you would make up incredible ? .........




    Its facts, you need to have the facts about some ? if you trying to have a conversation about it.

    ...it benefits white women mostly....

    And the report is called the Glass Celings Commission fyi, released in 1996.

    Exactly......

    You entered this conversation with a sensational claim........

    & provided no sources / facts for them.......

    The Federal Glass Ceiling Commission suggest that the underlying cause of the glass ceiling is the perception of many white males that as a group they are losing control of their advancement opportunities.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling


    The facts are sensational?
    Smh okay...whatever bruh lol.


    Yeah whatever, b.............

    Your "facts" are nonexistent............

    "The Federal Glass Ceiling Commission of the United States Department of Labor identified two major societal barriers that cause and reinforce a glass ceiling. One societal barrier is with reference to the quantity barrier and the other is with reference to the difference barrier..[15]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_ceiling




  • Drew_Ali
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
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    Professor Ira Katznelson wrote When Affirmative Action Was White to document how 20th-century social programs (Social Security, the GI Bill, Great Society) benefited mostly white people and were purposefully subverted to be that way by Southern legislators under the old rubric of “states rights,” which is often the last refuge of bigots.

    http://www.diversityinc.com/ask-the-white-guy/affirmative-action-benefits-whites-too-more-than-you-think/
  • Dr.Chemix
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    Yo some of yall gotta recognize a white dude trolling for his ignorance when yall see one.
  • DarcSkies
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    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    Drew_Ali wrote: »
    jono wrote: »
    White women benefit more from Affirmative Action than anyone but its considered a "black" issue. Smh

    This white chick would disagree with you..........

    "There were people in my class with lower grades who weren't in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin," she says. "I was taught from the time I was a little girl that any kind of discrimination was wrong. And for an institution of higher learning to act this way makes no sense to me. What kind of example does it set for others?"

    jp-ADMISSIONS-1-articleLarge.jpg

    http://youtu.be/JHiFganl3lE


    "According to the United States Labor Department, the primary beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women. The Department of Labor estimated that 6 million women workers are in higher occupational classifications today than they would have been without affirmative action policies."

    http://www.ncsu.edu/project/oeo-training/aa/beneficiaries.htm

    Those *coughh* scholars *cough* @ NC State would do well to include references on their claims............

    1.jpg

    Affirmative action is necessary to prevent discrimination and to address stereotypical thinking and biases that still impede employment opportunity.

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

    Their source is the same as yours...

    Didn't you notice? The Dept. Of Labor....smh
    Affirmative action isn't even helping...well its not helping us anyway.

    You're right & wrong.
    Affirmative Action wasnt designed to help ALL black people. It was designed to help the many blacks who are more than qualified but have not been given the opportunity because of their race.

    Its never really been a matter of "you're a ? so you cant go to school here" it's always been a matter of "if you're from this district or this zip code you go to this school...but if you're from here you go to that school"

    From an early age black kids are set up to fail. The ones who over come their community's shortcomings (violence, poverty, etc) should be afforded the chance of an education. Because a black kid from Chicago with a 3.7 GPA had a way tougher time getting that score than a white kid from Santa Monica with a 4.0. Just the facts.

    Whites argue that "it's not the white kids fault he was born in a privileged society." But of course they forget that it wasnt the black kids fault he/she was not.
  • ImTheKangRoundHere
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    affirmative action is must needed(black people).white people will feel they can do or say anything to blacks without punishment if they rid of it.too many black people died and marched for white people to want take this away.
  • Drew_Ali
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    affirmative action is vital for diversity
    Dr.Chemix wrote: »
    Yo some of yall gotta recognize a white dude trolling for his ignorance when yall see one.

    LOL.....



    This ? @Dr.Chemix been following me around for weeks...............

    But timid when I step to........

    Oh your cowardly heart.......

    http://youtu.be/2-ebFvTEfC8