Is Doc Rivers overrated?
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NoShizlansky wrote: »I bet Larry Brown would have got them ? to at least the second round with the same teams Doc had his first 8 years.
You acting like 8 years ain't a long time.
Now resorting to "I bet"s .... and other hypothesis and guesses...
Im arguing logically with facts, statistics and history.
This debate is done.
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YesShizlansky wrote: »I bet Larry Brown would have got them ? to at least the second round with the same teams Doc had his first 8 years.
You acting like 8 years ain't a long time.
Now resorting to "I bet"s .... and other hypothesis and guesses...
Im arguing logically with facts, statistics and history.
This debate is done.
I just dropped the facts. Dude is average nothing more nothing less
1 ring with the big 3
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NoYet you say Thibs is better, and he hasnt even made the finals
And he had an MVP and the leagues best defense almost every year -
YesYet you say Thibs is better, and he hasnt even made the finals
And he had an MVP and the leagues best defense almost every year
Let me see
Thibs been there 3 years
1st year - leagues best record and top notch defense lost in the conference finals
2nd year - number 1 seed in the East top notch defense. Rose tears ACL first round.
3rd year - Gets to the playoffs without his best player. Top notch defense and up 2-1 I'm the Nets
He got these ? balling with Nate as their best scorer. That team is not great but his coaching got them balling with Rose out.
His defensive schemes is top notch.
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you the only ? who mentioned D'antoni, from the original post, you cant dispute my facts kid.
Are you that dense? Why you asking me to answer another ? question. Ask that ? , fool.
All i know is i disputed your original post about coaches with 3 hof before they got together on the same team. The answer is d'antoni.
Dispute that
you not pose to answer a queston with a question, so ill ignore it lol -
NoShizlansky wrote: »Yet you say Thibs is better, and he hasnt even made the finals
And he had an MVP and the leagues best defense almost every year
Let me see
Thibs been there 3 years
1st year - leagues best record and top notch defense lost in the conference finals
2nd year - number 1 seed in the East top notch defense. Rose tears ACL first round.
3rd year - Gets to the playoffs without his best player. Top notch defense and up 2-1 I'm the Nets
He got these ? balling with Nate as their best scorer. That team is not great but his coaching got them balling with Rose out.
His defensive schemes is top notch.
Yet to quote you "He aint done ? " cuz he aint WON ? .
Only going off YOUR ? logic.
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you the only ? who mentioned D'antoni, from the original post, you cant dispute my facts kid.
Are you that dense? Why you asking me to answer another ? question. Ask that ? , fool.
All i know is i disputed your original post about coaches with 3 hof before they got together on the same team. The answer is d'antoni.
Dispute that
you not pose to answer a queston with a question, so ill ignore it lol
You slow and clearly cant say nothing bout the d'antoni statement cuz it proves you wrong.
Stop wasting my time, move on -
you the only ? who mentioned D'antoni, from the original post, you cant dispute my facts kid.
Are you that dense? Why you asking me to answer another ? question. Ask that ? , fool.
All i know is i disputed your original post about coaches with 3 hof before they got together on the same team. The answer is d'antoni.
Dispute that
you not pose to answer a queston with a question, so ill ignore it lol
You slow and clearly cant say nothing bout the d'antoni statement cuz it proves you wrong.
Stop wasting my time, move on
D'antoni hall of famers played a combined 9 games together all year, so it made no sense to entertain. if not healthy, no team can win u corny lame -
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you the only ? who mentioned D'antoni, from the original post, you cant dispute my facts kid.
Are you that dense? Why you asking me to answer another ? question. Ask that ? , fool.
All i know is i disputed your original post about coaches with 3 hof before they got together on the same team. The answer is d'antoni.
Dispute that
you not pose to answer a queston with a question, so ill ignore it lol
You slow and clearly cant say nothing bout the d'antoni statement cuz it proves you wrong.
Stop wasting my time, move on
D'antoni hall of famers played a combined 9 games together all year, so it made no sense to entertain. if not healthy, no team can win u corny lame
? your stipulations. Three outta the four played way more than 9 games together, and you were ? and moaning about other coaches with 3 HoF players. So my statement still ? on your incredibly ridiculous theory.
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fact is NO coach has had 3 HOF and not won a ring, the fact that you have to include D'antoni proves my point was valid, there been hundreds of coaches in nba history, and your rebuttal is from 2013 LOL.
u mad like every1 else that i destroy with facts -
Nofact is NO coach has had 3 HOF and not won a ring, the fact that you have to include D'antoni proves my point was valid, there been hundreds of coaches in nba history, and your rebuttal is from 2013 LOL.
u mad like every1 else that i destroy with facts
Because its the first that comes to mind because its the most recent you ? .
And since that ALREADY disproved your theory, there is no need to rack my memory tryna figure out more ways to son you.
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DAntoni only had 1 year. Doc won 1 in 5. nice job lookin stupid again
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NoNice job ignoring the fact I disproved your theory again, and changing the subject.DAntoni only had 1 year. Doc won 1 in 5. nice job lookin stupid again
First off, Doc won HIS FIRST YEAR with the 3 hall of famers.
Secondly,fact is NO coach has had 3 HOF and not won a ring, the fact that you have to include D'antoni proves my point was valid, there been hundreds of coaches in nba history, and your rebuttal is from 2013 LOL.
you never mentioned how long they had the players, yet you tryna to add that now.
Lol @ you steadily increasing your flawed criteria after continually being sonned.
First it was "no coach ever had 3 HOF and didnt win"
Then it was "No coach had 3 HOF that were HOF before they came to the team and didnt win"
Now its "No coach had 3 HOF that were HOF before they came to the team AND played more than a year together and didnt win"
LMAO
You making yourself look dumber with each post that I continue to refute. Give it a rest you dont have the intelligence to debate with me you speck of a ? . -
that was too much to read, didn't mean to get that much of yo attention
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BlackAX410 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »I bet Larry Brown would have got them ? to at least the second round with the same teams Doc had his first 8 years.
You acting like 8 years ain't a long time.
dawg we had guys like Ryan Gomes, Brian Scalebrine, Telfair, nd Brandon Hunter gettin rotation minutes those teams lacked talent. before da Ray Allen nd KG trade Danny Ainge was one of da WOAT GM's plus Chris Wallace made ? decisions in da front office too. Doc is a good coach slightly overrated but u actin like he's a product of da big 3 which is ridiculous
he absolutely is -
Kinda overratedYet you say Thibs is better, and he hasnt even made the finals
And he had an MVP and the leagues best defense almost every year
this made me think about mike brown and how he gets no love but pretty much has the same success Thibs has as a head coach not to mention at this point he is the only coach other than phil jackson with more than 5 years experience to make the playoffs every year he was head coach -
NoPops, g Karl, Thibodeau, doc rivers and spoelstra, present day
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NoHell no...
He's perhaps the most unluckiest coach ever... He LITERALLY has had a big injury every year since winning a title....
2008 - Won title
2009 - loss KG
2010 - Loss perkins in game 7 of finals (though I will not use this as a BIG excuse, it happened)
2011 - Rondo dislocated his Arm
2012 - Loss Jeff Green ... also, Lost to the heat in 7 games, but honestly should have closed it out at home.... the celtics did not come to play at home in game 6... I put that on his veteran players, not him...
2013 - lost Rondo and Ray Allen (Allen not an injury, but situation was mismanaged by GM)
Literally every year, injuries injuries injuries.... If it wasn't for injuries, Doc would have 2 rings right now AT LEAST, and going on a 3rd or 4th this year... -
NoBlackAX410 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »I bet Larry Brown would have got them ? to at least the second round with the same teams Doc had his first 8 years.
You acting like 8 years ain't a long time.
dawg we had guys like Ryan Gomes, Brian Scalebrine, Telfair, nd Brandon Hunter gettin rotation minutes those teams lacked talent. before da Ray Allen nd KG trade Danny Ainge was one of da WOAT GM's plus Chris Wallace made ? decisions in da front office too. Doc is a good coach slightly overrated but u actin like he's a product of da big 3 which is ridiculous
he absolutely is
Who's better... Big 3 or:
Jordan / pippen / rodman (or grant)?
Kobe / Shaq?
Kareem / Magic / Worthy?
Robinson / Duncan / Elliot... Or Duncan / Parker / Ginobli?
The only one debatable is duncan / parker / ginobli... All other multi win / championship coaches had players BETTER than the big 3... So that would pretty much make every coach in history overrated.....
Were you born an idiot or did it take years of hard work? -
YesAnother first round exit.
So yall just gon ignore that -
NoShizlansky wrote: »Another first round exit.
So yall just gon ignore that
You trolling now. This team is missing Rondo and Sullinger, Pierce Garnett and Terry are old. Nobody thinks this team could win -
YesChi-Town Bully wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »Another first round exit.
So yall just gon ignore that
You trolling now. This team is missing Rondo and Sullinger, Pierce Garnett and Terry are old. Nobody thinks this team could win
But what about all them other 1st round exits and missed playoffs chances. -
Nope
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Nah he's a great coach.
He is funny/annoying how he talks tho. Like ngga why are talking about your team with so much confidence...this aint 2009
Him and that team are stubbron to the point its annoying. -
No? trolling like ?
First time in a while ive agreed with woah this ? right here is etherous pretty sure dude cant respond adequatelyBlackAX410 wrote: »Shizlansky wrote: »I bet Larry Brown would have got them ? to at least the second round with the same teams Doc had his first 8 years.
You acting like 8 years ain't a long time.
dawg we had guys like Ryan Gomes, Brian Scalebrine, Telfair, nd Brandon Hunter gettin rotation minutes those teams lacked talent. before da Ray Allen nd KG trade Danny Ainge was one of da WOAT GM's plus Chris Wallace made ? decisions in da front office too. Doc is a good coach slightly overrated but u actin like he's a product of da big 3 which is ridiculous
he absolutely is
Who's better... Big 3 or:
Jordan / pippen / rodman (or grant)?
Kobe / Shaq?
Kareem / Magic / Worthy?
Robinson / Duncan / Elliot... Or Duncan / Parker / Ginobli?
The only one debatable is duncan / parker / ginobli... All other multi win / championship coaches had players BETTER than the big 3... So that would pretty much make every coach in history overrated.....
Were you born an idiot or did it take years of hard work?
