Which DC characters do you think would make it to a top tier/omega mutant in the Marvel Universe?

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  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    Depends on what you mean by top tier and by Omega Mutant. Some Omega Mutants are Legion and Franklin Richards and they will body Supes, Flash, etc. Some are just Iceman.

    Anyways if we're naming Supes (though some marvel telepaths will likely body him), Captain Marvel, Green Lantern, Dr. Fate, Sinestro, Doomsday, Lex Luthor, dude with the Starheart, etc. all have to be named.

    This. Remember cosmic entities interact a lot more in the Marvel Universe than they do in DC, so Top Tier can mean something very different. If you're just talking about the top tier of heroes then DC has a lot of characters that would fit that bill especially since DC heroes are usually written to be a lot more powerful than Marvel heroes on average.
  • ShencotheMC
    ShencotheMC Members Posts: 26,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DarkRaiden wrote: »
    Spectre could take out Franklin Richards. Mxy(whatever the hell his name is) could take out Franklin Richards. Same for Legion. Both them cats got tons of power, but they minds are shot to ? and lack of control over their powers. Dr. Destiny and Dharma could take Legion and Franklin out. Hell depending on what's going on Batman could one shot Legion and be done from there.

    The hell are you mentioning ? 's Wrath and a 5th Dimensional Imp for? Don't know who Dr. Destiny or Dharma are and Batman can't take out anybody.

    You talked like legion and franklin are unbeatable by any dc characters...they're not. You also must have missed where I stated depending on whats going on, legion could get punched out. If Legion was wrapped up in too many things then yes, Batman could come through and knock his ass out while he's distracted
  • nujerz84
    nujerz84 Members Posts: 15,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ehh cant ? with Marvel did as a Kid... as I got older couldnt get into it...the opposite was true with DC.
  • Swiffness!
    Swiffness! Members Posts: 10,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Remember what happened when Joker got Mxyzptlk's power?

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    Yeah............
  • Sour-Cream
    Sour-Cream Members Posts: 6,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sour wrote: »
    Yea, Batman would die in .000001 seconds to any top tier.

    How much prep time are you giving The Batman?

    Prep time would only increase his lifespan to .1 seconds.
  • Copper
    Copper Members Posts: 49,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My ? lobo
    Black adam
  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    Legion can't really body supes. Nor can Franklin Richards. They don't have enough durability or speed to avoid getting one shot by a speed blitz. Also @darkraiden lantern fate and cap marvel aren't on Supes Manhunter Wonder Woman level.
    Franklin Richards is so much more powerful than Superman it's a shame. Franklin is Celestial level in power. Superman literally has nothing in his arsenal to even make Franklin notice him. Galactus is a herald to Franklin just to give you an idea of how powerful he is

  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    Spectre could take out Franklin Richards. Mxy(whatever the hell his name is) could take out Franklin Richards. Same for Legion. Both them cats got tons of power, but they minds are shot to ? and lack of control over their powers. Dr. Destiny and Dharma could take Legion and Franklin out. Hell depending on what's going on Batman could one shot Legion and be done from there.

    Spectre taking out Franklin is debateable. Franklin would dog walk Mxy. There's nothing wrong with Franklin's mind and he has complete control over his powers..so much control that his older self went back in time to place blocks on himself to keep him from accessing his full powers. Franklin, as a child, with mental blocks, is still far more powerful than your average top tier (Superman, Thor etc.)
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jaxn wrote: »
    Legion can't really body supes. Nor can Franklin Richards. They don't have enough durability or speed to avoid getting one shot by a speed blitz. Also @darkraiden lantern fate and cap marvel aren't on Supes Manhunter Wonder Woman level.
    Franklin Richards is so much more powerful than Superman it's a shame. Franklin is Celestial level in power. Superman literally has nothing in his arsenal to even make Franklin notice him. Galactus is a herald to Franklin just to give you an idea of how powerful he is



    Superman can't beat Franklin you're right. But gal being his herald isn't canon. Base level normal Franklin has hella restraints though. But I get what you're saying full power Franklin is a beast.

    @jaxn what's your thought on legion?
  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    jaxn wrote: »
    Legion can't really body supes. Nor can Franklin Richards. They don't have enough durability or speed to avoid getting one shot by a speed blitz. Also @darkraiden lantern fate and cap marvel aren't on Supes Manhunter Wonder Woman level.
    Franklin Richards is so much more powerful than Superman it's a shame. Franklin is Celestial level in power. Superman literally has nothing in his arsenal to even make Franklin notice him. Galactus is a herald to Franklin just to give you an idea of how powerful he is



    Superman can't beat Franklin you're right. But gal being his herald isn't canon. Base level normal Franklin has hella restraints though. But I get what you're saying full power Franklin is a beast.

    @jaxn what's your thought on legion?
    What book retcon's Galactus being Franklin's herald? I'm asking because this happened fairly recently. Like last year or earlier this year and is a part of the Fantastic Four's canon. There was nothing to suggest this event didn't take place seeing as it took place during a pretty long story arc involving the FF. In this story, Franklin is fighting Celestials and calls to Galactus who was just defeated by said Celestials

    Legion is a beast. Dude has a different ability for each persona. Marvel is currently getting into his character which should be quite entertaining if handled properly.

  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I meant to say its not 616 Galactus sorry.
    Galactus 616 is superior to celestials.
  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    it was the 616 Galactus
  • Bcotton5
    Bcotton5 Members Posts: 51,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Galactus fights multiple Celestials at once
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    jaxn wrote: »
    it was the 616 Galactus
    It wasn't it was an alternate earth

  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even if it was canon, it took multiple Celestials to beat Galactus. Three of them had to combine their power to beat him.
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...
  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
    jaxn wrote: »
    it was the 616 Galactus
    It wasn't it was an alternate earth
    it was still the 616 Galactus. The Celestials were from an alternate universe

  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

    Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

    Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

    I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.
  • Bcotton5
    Bcotton5 Members Posts: 51,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont think its far fetched to say reality warpers are above Galactus and I recognize Galactus power
  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most reality warpers can't affect the High Level cosmics. I think it was even stated that the Cosmics sensed Scarlet Witch's actions when she got rid of mutants, and ignored it because it was of no concern to them.
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Galactus can't be warped! He just can't!
  • evoljeanyes
    evoljeanyes Members Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Galactus is eternity in 616 basically. TOAA, LT, Eternity Galactus oblivion. That's the power houses is canon marvel. There are a couple up there with them but that's the pantheon to me. Jim Jasper's and scarlet witch are peons. Both great characters. But gal would laugh at them both.
  • Broddie
    Broddie Members Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mxyzptlk's already extreme power has been enhanced even further in the new 52 (read Grant Morrison's Action Comics arc). It was the basis of the villain of that arc who basically attacked Superman at different periods of his life across all of time and space all at once all the way from the 5th dimension.

    The Galactus at the end of Hickman's F4/FF run was indeed the 616 Galactus but the Franklin that made him his herald was a future version of the kid who was waaaaaaaaay older than he currently is in the comic books.
  • DarkRaiden
    DarkRaiden Members Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭
    Guys are are so sleep on Galactus...because he is a plot device people consider him weak...he just isn't...

    Yeah, got to blame the Marvel writers. It's like for a long time their only means of demonstrating a new character or threat's power was to have them beat a weakened Galactus. It's messed up because Galactus was never meant to be used like that. He was to be a supreme power. After all, even when the F4 first got the best of him, it was only because the Watcher told them about the Ultimate Nullifier and the used that to threaten Galactus. And then some idiot comes along and writes a story where they beat him by firing the Thing out of a giant slingshot. Come on, that's just disrespecting a character.

    I have to argue with cats about scarlet witch and legion being above Galactus. Mad Jim Jasper's withhis overrated ass. @darkraiden things there is a version of juggernaut that can beat Galactus.

    Legion has the 616 universe in a box b. A wooden box. He's above Galactus.

    And Trion juggernaut I think it was, was punching holes in dimensions and ? . Far above Galactus.

    Hmmm or was it 8th day Juggernaut? Not sure but one of the Juggernauts that had more of Cyttorak's power.