Conspiracy Theories That You Actually Believe

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Maximus Rex
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Unlike most black people (as evident by my Illuminati thread,) I don't think the government or a cabal evil white and Jewish guys meet quarterly under the carousal in Central Park to hatch these malevolent plans for world ? and to keep minorities, (especially black people oppressed. However there are certain conspiracy theories I do give credence to.

The Kennedy Assasination

Even though I've never read it, I don't believe the Warren Commission's report on the Kennedy assassination. I have a VERY HARD TIME believing that Lee Harvey Oswald simply decided on day to take a rifle to the sixth of the school book depository building, and spill Jack's brain all over that cute lil pink suit Jackie wearing that November afternoon.

I believe the Kennedy assassination was a mob hit ordered by Sam Giancana with logistical support provided by J. Edgar Hoover and rogue elements with in the F.B.I. and possibly the Secret Service.

I have no way of quantifying this, but my theory is this. The 1960 presidential election was a very close race decided by only 112,827 votes, of the 68,832,482 that were cast. In Illinois the Kennedy's margin of victory was only 8,858 votes. If you go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960 look at the break down of the voting by county, Nixon won every damn every county in Illinois, the important exception is Cook County, for you slow nigg uneducated ? , Cook County is the county Chicago is in. The same happens in New York, but Jack's margin of victory is a little bit bigger.

It's alleged that Papa Joe was connected and he was involved in bootlegging whiskey during Prohibition. I believe (and this is purely conjecture on my part,) that Papa Joe may have called in "a favor," to some "friends of his," in the Chi and NYC. Also, Peter Lawford was married to Patricia Kennedy, (again for you slow uneducated ? Peter Lawford was in the Rat Pack,) So what Rex, Peter Lawford was in the Rat Pack. Who was the leader of the Rat Pack? Frank Sinatra, and even the dumbest of ? know that Old Blue Eyes was connect. So probably in the days and weeks, and probably the Election Night, 1960 Papa Joe and Sinatra were using those mob ties with the unions and Cook County Board of elections to run some shenanigans.

Once in office, Jack appoints his little brother Bobby AG, and Bobby is with the ? and starts going after the Mob. These ? are probably like, "What the ? ? We get this ? bastard's kid elected president and his other kid is hitting us with indictments and having testifying at Congressional hearings. AWWW HELL NAW!" Add in Hoover's dislike for the Kennedys and the ? goes down. Mind you, Jack Ruby, (the dude who popped Lee Harvey Oswald,) had ties to the Chicago syndicate. He supposedly bodies Lee Harvey Oswald to spare Jackie a trial and to show that "Jews had guts." Ruby later dies of cancer in the Feds. If you do your research, a lot of ? connected to the Kennedy assassination died under "mysterious," circumstances. Then there'? on Bobby in '68 which I think was tied into his brother's murder. ? Sirhan Sirhan's excuse about Bobby's support of Israel, that was an orchestrated hit to keep Bobby from becoming president so that he wouldn't re-open a new investigation into his and probably Dr. King's assassination. Speaking of which, I also believe that government was involved in Dr. King's murder too, along with one of Dr. King's sons and RFK, Jr.


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  • WYRM
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    Don't believe it but it was an entertaining documentary, "2016: Obama's America", was a good bit of propaganda.
  • blackamerica
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    There's corruption on every level of government. The judicial system is corrupt. The prison system is corrupt. The IRS is in hot water over targeting tea party members for taxes, corrupt too. The Banks are corrupt






    If you think its a conspiracy that the richest elite groups in the world control & manipulate world events for they're own agendas, your a idiot
  • blackamerica
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    Oh and 9/11 was sought out & orchestrated by the Bush administration, fact. The US government has assigned a government ? list where they are currently assassinating people under an executive order signed by Obama, fact.
  • blakfyahking
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    I believe that the villifying of capitalism and the promotion of socialism is a prelude to softening up the populace to give up more of their constitutional rights

    I believe there is a ? agenda being pushed to further break up the generational wealth created by strong nuclear families

    I believe that govt and the rich population give out handouts to placate poor people and keep them in place instead of really trying to help them


    I believe that black people are purposely being targeted for elimination in America
  • Trollio
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    its not a theory if there i can prove it
  • janklow
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    Kennedy assassination theories? nah
    9/11 conspiracy theories? nah

    sorry, guys
  • Maximus Rex
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    janklow wrote: »
    Kennedy assassination theories? nah

    So you believe the Warren Commission? Or that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone?
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    janklow wrote: »
    Kennedy assassination theories? nah
    9/11 conspiracy theories? nah

    sorry, guys
    9/11? Too much evidence pointing back to the Bush administration. You gotta kiddin me
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    janklow wrote: »
    Kennedy assassination theories? nah
    9/11 conspiracy theories? nah

    sorry, guys
    9/11? Too much evidence pointing back to the Bush administration. You gotta kiddin me

    The problem with people who believe 9/11 conspiracies is that their showing their ignorance of the intelligence community. Unlike my JFK assassination theory, (which could've been done with the knowledge of a few people,) The 9/11 conspiracy theory falls a part simply because of the amount of people who had access to that information, which was probably hundreds possibly even thousands of people. Also the House and Senate Intelligence Committees get the same intel the President does. My point is that there were simply too my people involved to keep Pres. Bush having foreknowledge of 9/11 a secret. Also people are forgetting that people in the intelligence community are extremely patriotic, if had foreknowledge that attack was imminent and he left it go down anyway, somebody would have gotten that information to the press, a la ? . Also, I have a had time believing that Colin Powell would have went along with some ? like that.
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    janklow wrote: »
    Kennedy assassination theories? nah
    9/11 conspiracy theories? nah

    sorry, guys
    9/11? Too much evidence pointing back to the Bush administration. You gotta kiddin me

    The problem with people who believe 9/11 conspiracies is that their showing their ignorance of the intelligence community. Unlike my JFK assassination theory, (which could've been done with the knowledge of a few people,) The 9/11 conspiracy theory falls a part simply because of the amount of people who had access to that information, which was probably hundreds possibly even thousands of people. Also the House and Senate Intelligence Committees get the same intel the President does. My point is that there were simply too my people involved to keep Pres. Bush having foreknowledge of 9/11 a secret. Also people are forgetting that people in the intelligence community are extremely patriotic, if had foreknowledge that attack was imminent and he left it go down anyway, somebody would have gotten that information to the press, a la ? . Also, I h ave a had time believing that Colin Powell would have went along with some ? like that.
    Two words: Controlled demolition



    No way a 747 slams in a building and it collaspes like that. I watched both towers fall over a billion times and its impossible. Then you have witnesses reporting loud explosions coming from the basement. You also have thermite found at ground zero. The plane that allegedly slammed in the Pentagon footage STILL hasn't been released from the gas station across the street. Thats important considering if you look at the hole at the Pentagon, its very small and impossible for a huge plane to fit through.


    Lastly, how coincidental is it that the alleged mastermind of this be business partners with the commander in chief? Cool enough to fly his family out the US the same day as 9/11. ? was a setup bro. ? just choose not to believe certain things even when evidence says otherwise
  • Maximus Rex
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    Dude, if something gets hot enough, it will melt or compromise the structurally integrity of the steel enough that it will weaken.
  • WYRM
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    I don't debate Conspiracy Theories, it is like trying to talk a Southern Baptist out of Christianity. Had more fruitful conversations with the wall I slam my head into.
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    Slavery didn't really happen. ? was just scared.
  • ILL_Anvers
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    Two words: Controlled demolition



    No way a 747 slams in a building and it collaspes like that. I watched both towers fall over a billion times and its impossible. Then you have witnesses reporting loud explosions coming from the basement. You also have thermite found at ground zero. The plane that allegedly slammed in the Pentagon footage STILL hasn't been released from the gas station across the street. Thats important considering if you look at the hole at the Pentagon, its very small and impossible for a huge plane to fit through.


    Lastly, how coincidental is it that the alleged mastermind of this be business partners with the commander in chief? Cool enough to fly his family out the US the same day as 9/11. ? was a setup bro. ? just choose not to believe certain things even when evidence says otherwise

    "Melted" Steel
    Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

    FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

    "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

    But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

    "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

    PopularMechanics.com
  • Maximus Rex
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    ILL_Anvers wrote: »
    Two words: Controlled demolition



    No way a 747 slams in a building and it collaspes like that. I watched both towers fall over a billion times and its impossible. Then you have witnesses reporting loud explosions coming from the basement. You also have thermite found at ground zero. The plane that allegedly slammed in the Pentagon footage STILL hasn't been released from the gas station across the street. Thats important considering if you look at the hole at the Pentagon, its very small and impossible for a huge plane to fit through.


    Lastly, how coincidental is it that the alleged mastermind of this be business partners with the commander in chief? Cool enough to fly his family out the US the same day as 9/11. ? was a setup bro. ? just choose not to believe certain things even when evidence says otherwise

    "Melted" Steel
    Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

    FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

    "Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F," notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. "And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent." NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.

    But jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.

    "The jet fuel was the ignition source," Williams tells PM. "It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down."

    PopularMechanics.com

    I was going to mention that article, but I don't have time to look it up. As a matter of fact, I think an entire issue of Popular Mechanics was devoted to what you just posted.

    Also what ? is forgetting is that the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. are semi-autonomous agencies and only in extreme circumstances do they presidential permission to act. Case in point with the 9/11 hijackers, if the Feds were on their jobs, the most info the President Bush would have got was, we're following these cats. This is purely conjecture on my part, but I'm assuming that the next time Pres. Bush would have heard about those dudes was when they were about to be or already in custody.



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    9/11 was an obvious false flag...

    how the UK gon know some ? happened before it even happens?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

    At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse. During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.
    http://www.firehouse.com/article/10568001/captain-chris-boyle

    Actual firefighters who know more about fires and building collapses than your average ? internet conspiracist, reported that it might collapse.
    Think about it, if this was some major conspiracy, then why would the bbc know about a controlled demolition and then just give it away?
    The point of a conspiracy is to mislead people, not to lead them to the truth.
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    ILL_Anvers wrote: »
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    9/11 was an obvious false flag...

    how the UK gon know some ? happened before it even happens?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

    At approximately 2:00 pm, firefighters noticed a bulge in the southwest corner of 7 World Trade Center between the 10th and 13th floors, a sign that the building was unstable and might collapse. During the afternoon, firefighters also heard creaking sounds coming from the building.
    http://www.firehouse.com/article/10568001/captain-chris-boyle

    Actual firefighters who know more about fires and building collapses than your average ? internet conspiracist, reported that it might collapse.
    Think about it, if this was some major conspiracy, then why would the bbc know about a controlled demolition and then just give it away?
    The point of a conspiracy is to mislead people, not to lead them to the truth.

    you said a whole lot of nothing...

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    Are you serious?

    I've just clearly debunked your claim in a short and simple manner and now you're trying to say i said a whole lot of nothing? You can lead a horse to the water...

    Anyway, obviously it doesn't matter what i say, you're mind is already made up so i'll leave you in your ignorance.
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    thanks... i appreciate it...

    seeing as how we have soundwave weapons...

    oops.

    How is that relevant?
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