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  • MR.CJ
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    I wish it was on showtime
  • TheIraq
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    Seems like that GinaMarie doesn't like Candice lol............ And she has alot to say about black folks damn
  • TheIraq
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    Also Kaitlyn says ? ................ I wonder if she likes ? ? lol
  • TheBossman
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    i was wondering why bb was trending on twitter just now, seems a couple people in the house is MAD RACIST AND HOMOPHOBIC


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    This is a growing list. Some of the flashback times may be off a bit.

    Aaryn
    •About Helen: Dude, shut up, go make some rice (6/30 1:14AM)
    •Andy will get MVP because people love the ? (6/29 11:40PM)
    •Quick to correct Candice's pronunciation of "ask" (as opposed to axe) but is fine with GM saying it as axe
    •Bragged about making Asian eyes in the DR

    Spencer
    •Called Helen Kim Jong Un
    •calls Andy Kermit the ? to his face (6/29 ~4:40pm)
    •Called women the c-word
    •Says “? , get your ass cooking” (6/30 ~1:57pm)

    GinaMarie
    •Said blacks stick together and that they're "tokens" in the house (6/30 ~4:18AM)
    •Candice's "blackness" is showing now that she's not on the block (6/30 ~4:20AM)
    •They should make Helen's eyes "straight"
    •Said something about weaves being ghetto and then looked at Candice (6/29)
    •Helen should kiss their ? and serve them rice (June 29, 2:42pm Cam3)
    •Told Nick in the lounge that the way Candice talks is fake because she talks too white (6/29)
    •Said that Candice had that black thing going. intimating that she was getting ghetto (1st night of feeds)
    •Mocked Candice's voice in a stereotypical fashion

    Kaitlyn
    •Said “? ” but not in a reference to black people but more like “dude” (6/27 3:28AM C3)
    •says Candice came at her acting aggressive and she was thinking Candice's black side was coming out (6/27 ~5:47AM)
    •Said "? are untrustworthy in a game like this"

    Jeremy
    •Re: Kaitlyn’s ? : wants to see what he’s working with, called it her meat wallet
    •Re: Elissa, said he'd cut a ?

    Amanda
    •Calls herself the ? hag queen (6/29 ~5:30PM)




    ragan's open letter

    I just read Andrea Reiher’s Zap2It article in which she documents racism, misogyny, and homophobia that’s already emerged in the Big Brother 15 house. Feed watchers have watched Spencer call women “c#nts” and spit the word “? ” in Andy’s face. Similarly, Aaryn Gries (pictured above) complained that Andy would most likely get next week’s MVP because “people love the ? .” Aaryn’s also demanded Candice, an African American woman, say “asked, not axed” and suggested Helen, the season’s sole Asian American houseguest, should “go make some rice.” GinaMarie also wondered if they could make Helen’s eyes straight. And this is only WEEK 1! Imagine what will happen when they forget about the cameras.

    Houseguests GinaMarie, Aaryn, and Kaitlin referred to historically marginalized players as “tokens.” Sadly, they aren’t too far off in their assessment. Characters like Andy, Candice, Howard, and Helen are reduced to mere tokens when production fails to include micro-aggressions that they have to endure on a day-to-day basis. What’s the point of casting racial, ethnic, and sexual minorities if production’s going to edit out the racism, ethnic discrimination, and homophobia that these people encounter inside the house? Moreover, why do historically marginalized players have the exclusive burden of narrating past acts of racial, ethnic, and sexual brutalization when we see this sort of discrimination enacted INSIDE THE HOUSE?

    Big Brother, I LOVE you, but, if you really want to provide a groundbreaking twist, SHOW CBS VIEWERS HOW SOME STRAIGHT, WHITE PEOPLE talk about ? , Asian Americans, and African Americans. Capitalize on the Paula Deen controversy! Hate speech is currently a hot topic in the United States. It would be irresponsible to punt on this issue. What makes Aaryn’s homophobia and racism especially insidious is that it comes packaged in a bright-eyed, pageant-like exterior. I mean, how can somebody so sweet looking spew so much venom? Viewers would have to SEE it to BELIEVE it.

    Let’s hope the series’ “expect the unexpected” refrain holds true.

    Sincerely,

    Ragan
  • TheBossman
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    lol@ Jeremy
    •Re: Kaitlyn’s ? : wants to see what he’s working with, called it her meat wallet
    •Re: Elissa, said he'd cut a ?
  • TheIraq
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    Damn I was gonna say inb4 the crazy black female or crazy black female card was pulled........................
  • TheIraq
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    @TheBossman....... What was that first video???????????
  • TheBossman
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    TheIraq wrote: »
    @TheBossman....... What was that first video???????????
    ginamarie said ? . uploader took it down.
  • TheBossman
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  • Max.
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    When does this come on
  • PanchoYoSancho
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    Elissa is gonna dominate the MVP this season. Th rest of the housemates sound like idiots trying paint her as a terrible person cause she didnt tell them she was Rachel's sister. Dumb ? .
  • TheBossman
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    Max. wrote: »
    When does this come on
    sunday 8pm cbs
    tuesday 9pm
    wednesday 8pm

    uploader records bb after dark every night

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvPr1Yx7M0FYZ9CcjyJZSDA
  • sdotcarter111
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    The blatant racism is the only reason i'm checking for this. Nothing makes for better tv than some old-fashioned bigotry from young no-nothing cracka ? .
  • TheBossman
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    ? mcrae is an idiot. he can't be trusted...
    The blatant racism is the only reason i'm checking for this. Nothing makes for better tv than some old-fashioned bigotry from young no-nothing cracka ? .

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/07/02/cbs-big-brother-racist-house-guests-offensive/#ixzz2XwbxCp2P
  • deadeye
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    TheBossman wrote: »

    uploader records bb after dark every night

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvPr1Yx7M0FYZ9CcjyJZSDA

    Not anymore.

    YouTube account MrBigBrotherCBSDude2 has been terminated because we received multiple third-party notifications of copyright infringement from claimants including:
    Endemol USA Inc.
  • deadeye
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    TheBossman wrote: »


    ragan's open letter


    What’s the point of casting racial, ethnic, and sexual minorities if production’s going to edit out the racism, ethnic discrimination, and homophobia that these people encounter inside the house?

    Big Brother, I LOVE you, but, if you really want to provide a groundbreaking twist, SHOW CBS VIEWERS HOW SOME STRAIGHT, WHITE PEOPLE talk about ? , Asian Americans, and African Americans. Capitalize on the Paula Deen controversy! Hate speech is currently a hot topic in the United States. It would be irresponsible to punt on this issue. What makes Aaryn’s homophobia and racism especially insidious is that it comes packaged in a bright-eyed, pageant-like exterior. I mean, how can somebody so sweet looking spew so much venom? Viewers would have to SEE it to BELIEVE it.

    He's got a point.

    The one problem I've always had with this show is how production edits some people to look worse than they really are and other people to look better than they really are.

    I can understand them not wanting to show the racial and ? slurs to an extent because they probably don't want to attract any negative attention to the show...but with twitter and everything it's nearly impossible to keep that kind of thing under wraps now.

    So, they might as well show it because the fact that production is going out of it's way to cover it up might actually backfire by bringing more attention to it.


  • deadeye
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    Trying to watch after dark, but I can't do it.

    These guests aren't really interesting and just seem to be talking to be talking.

    Probably goes back to production by focusing on jibberish and saving all the good ? for CBS.
  • Max.
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    They deleted dudes youtube
  • TheBossman
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    yeah, copyright. another after dark uploader will pop up. as long as the feeds are up im good.
  • deadeye
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    Looks like the votes are divided along gender lines.

    All the guys wanna get rid of David and all the girls wanna get rid of Alyssa.

    Interesting.
  • deadeye
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    Tha ? is going on with the sound?

    Couldn't even hear all the rules of the comp or what was being said after David got evicted.
  • TheBossman
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    deadeye wrote: »
    Tha ? is going on with the sound?

    Couldn't even hear all the rules of the comp or what was being said after David got evicted.

    audio cut out because people were cursing.
    jeremy won hoh and gave it to aaryn, good move on his part.
  • deadeye
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    TheBossman wrote: »
    deadeye wrote: »
    Tha ? is going on with the sound?

    Couldn't even hear all the rules of the comp or what was being said after David got evicted.

    audio cut out because people were cursing.
    jeremy won hoh and gave it to aaryn, good move on his part.
    Possibly, but it might backfire if she ends up nominating someone from his alliance and they give him heat for giving her the HOH.

  • deadeye
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    Looks like Aaryn and Gina Marie got fired from their real jobs.


    http://www.today.com/entertainment/big-brother-rocked-big-controversy-racism-sexism-homophobia-6C10523010


    The 15th season of CBS' "Big Brother" kicked off just one week ago, and evidently, that's more than enough time to kick off some controversy.

    As the new houseguests settled in to their summer home and started bonding with their fellow players, some of them have shown their less-than-TV-friendly sides.

    In fact, the worst of the behavior -- which has included undeniably racist, sexist and homophobic remarks -- hasn't even made it to the small screen at all. Instead, live-feed viewers, who pay a subscription to see the events in the house as they happen on the "Big Brother" website, watched the action and uploaded the evidence to YouTube (the clips have since been removed "due to copyright claim by Endemol USA Inc," the production company behind "Big Brother").

    The offenses include frequent use of the N-word and ? slurs by more than one contestant and much more. Some of the most shocking comments so far have come from what's shaping up to be this season's "Mean Girls" clique, made up of Aaryn Gries and GinaMarie Zimmerman.

    It's not only fans who are outraged by the behavior of this season's houstguests. Both Gries and Zimmerman are now facing real-world repercussions.

    Zephyr Talent, the Texas modeling agency that reps Gries, announced on its Facebook page that it was dropping her as a client.

    "Aaryn, season 15 cast member of 'Big Brother,' revealed prejudices and other beliefs that we (Zephyr Talent) do not condone," the agency explained. "We certainly find the statements made by Aaryn on the live Internet feed to be offensive. Any views or opinions expressed in personal commentary by Aaryn, either on any live feed from the House or during the broadcast, are hers alone and do not represent the views or opinions of Zephyr Talent."


    And on Wednesday afternoon, Zimmerman lost her job with East Coast USA Pageant, Inc., where she worked as a pageant coordinator for the last five years. CEO Lauren Handler said in a statement that East Coast USA Pageant, Inc., was "left in disbelief and shock" by Zimmerman's behavior on "Big Brother."

    "We have never known this side of GinaMarie or have ever witnessed such acts of racism in the past. We are actually thankful that this show let us see GinaMarie for who she truly is as we would never want her to be a role model to our future contestants," Handler said in her statement. "We are unable to contact her at this time but when she returns from the 'Big Brother' house we will be terminating her employment for her unforgivable behavior. In a business where we are surrounded by beauty every day we are saddened to see something so ugly come from someone we put on a very high pedestal."


    Both Gries and Zimmerman slammed Korean-American housemate Helen Kim behind her back while being filmed for the live feed, each saying Kim should serve them some rice, with Zimmerman adding, "I'm gonna punch her in the face. I'm, like, 'Oh, maybe it'll make her eyes straight.' "
    How do you think the controversy should be handled?


    Oust the players who've made these comments. Keep the contestants, but air the comments so viewers know what the players are really like. Don't air the comments or penalize the players. Just ignore it. Cancel the show for the rest of the season.



    The two have also bashed African-American contestant Candice Stewart, accusing her of letting her "blackness show." Gries went so far as to warn her in-game ally to watch what she says in the dark because she "might not be able to see the b----."

    Various slams from Kaitlin Barnaby, Jeremy McGuire, David Girton and Spencer Clawson have been somewhat less frequent, but just as upsetting to those watching the feeds. But why haven't TV viewers seen or heard any of it?

    That's what some fans -- and at least one past contestant -- are asking.

    Former "Big Brother" player Ragan Fox, who was part of the season 12 cast, posted an open letter to the production team on his blog.

    "Houseguests GinaMarie, Aaryn, and Kaitlin referred to historically marginalized players as 'tokens,'" Fox wrote. "Sadly, they aren’t too far off in their assessment. Characters like Andy (Herren), Candice, Howard (Overby), and Helen are reduced to mere tokens when production fails to include micro-aggressions that they have to endure on a day-to-day basis. What’s the point of casting racial, ethnic, and sexual minorities if production’s going to edit out the racism, ethnic discrimination, and homophobia that these people encounter inside the house?"

    Fox went on to explain why he thinks it's so important for CBS to air the offensive footage.


    "'Big Brother,' I LOVE you, but, if you really want to provide a groundbreaking twist, SHOW CBS VIEWERS HOW SOME STRAIGHT, WHITE PEOPLE talk about ? , Asian Americans, and African Americans," he said. "Capitalize on the Paula Deen controversy! Hate speech is currently a hot topic in the United States. It would be irresponsible to punt on this issue. What makes Aaryn’s homophobia and racism especially insidious is that it comes packaged in a bright-eyed, pageant-like exterior. I mean, how can somebody so sweet looking spew so much venom? Viewers would have to SEE it to BELIEVE it."

    Fans have even started a Change.org petition asking CBS to expel Gries, perceived by many to be the worst offender, from the house. More than 3,600 fans have signed it so far.

    As for what, if any, action the network will take, that remains unclear. TODAY.com reached out to CBS for comment about the current controversy, but a statement from the network made no mention of changes.

    “BIG BROTHER is a reality show about watching a group of people who have no privacy 24/7 — and seeing every moment of their lives," the statement read. "At times, the Houseguests reveal prejudices and other beliefs that we do not condone. We certainly find the statements made by several of the Houseguests on the live Internet feed to be offensive. Any views or opinions expressed in personal commentary by a Houseguest appearing on BIG BROTHER, either on any live feed from the House or during the broadcast, are those of the individual(s) speaking and do not represent the views or opinions of CBS or the producers of the program.”

    During a 2010 interview, "Big Brother" executive producer Allison Grodner addressed past decisions not to air certain controversial and insensitive comments on the show.

    "We always say that these are real people and they are not being censored in there," Grodner told Reality Blurred. "And they have opinions and so forth that we don’t necessarily agree with and condone and want to put out there further, to be honest. We really don’t want to put hateful things out there in our edits. And so for the most part, when this goes down, we keep that out of the show."

    "Big Brother" airs its first live episode of the season Wednesday at 8 p.m. on CBS.

    -- Additional reporting by Anna Chan.