Independence Day 2 Director Says Will Smith Is Too Expensive For Sequel

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MrCrookedLetter
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German director Roland Emmerich and 20th Century Fox announced that Independence Day 2 now has a release date: July 3, 2015—the same holiday weekend that made the original a blockbuster in 1996. However, the film will be without its star, Will Smith.

"Will Smith can not come back because he's too expensive, but he'd also be too much of a marquee name," Emmerich said. "It would be too much." Smith's asking price is apparelty still too high, even though After Earth had disappointing box office returns and currently has an 11% rating on Rotten Tomatoes.

Producers said that the Independence Day sequel will be the first of a two-part story, for now titled ID Forever, Part I." Emmerich said that about half of the characters will be new and half will be from the original. Independence Day also starred Jeff Goldblum, Bill Pullman, Vivica A. Fox, and Harry Connick, Jr.

"We're not doing a total reboot, we're doing something that's totally unusual," Emmerich said. "I think some aliens will be back."

http://m.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/06/will-smith-is-too-expensive-for-independence-day-2
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  • marc123
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    ? Will Smith and ? this ? movie
  • Max.
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    marc123 wrote: »
    ? Will Smith and ? this ? movie

  • nawledge_god
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    His Last Couple Of Films Have Been Underwhelming...At The Box Office And Critically...Lets See If America's Favorite ? Bounces Back
  • Vader_F_Kennedy
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    to me ID was a stand alone movie no need for a 2nd one......i wont be spendin my money on this ?
  • Splackavelli
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    nah the human race won in the 1st ID4 no need for a sequel. it's called closure people.
  • Broddie
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    I won't be watching this but LOL @ thinking Will Smith is the appeal. It's about the aliens and tearing ? up. It will find an audience with or without Will Smith. He was just part of an ensemble cast. Roland Emmerich's last disaster movie (2012) made almost 800 million at the box office. The first Independence Day made a littler over 800 million at the box office. This is what the Fox execs are looking at. They could just add Channing Tatum and The Rock to it if they want. Like the first it's an ensemble movie and easy money. The effects and action sold ID4 and would sell any sequel. I think all you really need is Goldblum to come back. Bill Pullman won't be president anymore no use for him. Randy Quaid can't be re used.
  • KingFreeman
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    Broddie wrote: »
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    I won't be watching this but LOL @ thinking Will Smith is the appeal. It's about the aliens and tearing ? up. It will find an audience with or without Will Smith. He was just part of an ensemble cast. Roland Emmerich's last disaster movie (2012) made almost 800 million at the box office. The first Independence Day made a littler over 800 million at the box office. This is what the Fox execs are looking at. They could just add Channing Tatum and The Rock to it if they want. Like the first it's an ensemble movie and easy money. The effects and action sold ID4 and would sell any sequel. I think all you really need is Goldblum to come back. Bill Pullman won't be president anymore no use for him. Randy Quaid can't be re used.

    Lol that ? ain't doing no numbers without will smith. Sequels 20 years later without your main character who didn't die in the original and is an established actor all these years later? Where the ? they doing that? If I were them I wouldn't bother releasing.
  • Broddie
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    This ? said "your main character"

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    Even Goldblum had more screen time than him. This is the ? that kills me cause it just shows how some black people overestimate the importance of Will Smith to hollywood. It was a breakthrough performance for the guy. Now white people knew him. Whoop whoop. People went to see the white house get blown up anybody who says otherwise clearly wasn't old enough to even remember when that movie was in theaters.

    News flash he's not the biggest star in town. There are stars that are hotter than him right now who would work on movies of this scale with a paycut and backend deal easily without being as expensive as Smith. Nor would they be as imposing on the filmmakers as he would be. Fox may be a creatively bankrupt studio but financially they're one of the more consistent ones when it comes to ROI. They're not just going to throw money out there to make no profit. They'll hire whoever Emmerich feels will fit whatever the hell he's cooking up and I'm sure that list will include flavor of the moment actors with star potential like Will Smith was in 1996.
  • KingFreeman
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    Word. Cause ? are checking for Jeff goldblum. Shut the ? up.

    And go ahead and name stars that are bigger than him that would take a pay cut to do a role he wouldn't take cause the money wasn't right.
  • Broddie
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    Idiot. People are checking for the concept not the actors. I didn't even know Will Smith was even in that movie till I saw it on opening day because the main advertisement playing in theaters didn't even show him. I went because of the destruction of manhattan trailer that ended with the white house going kaboom and so did many other people. It was something fresh back then when SFX spectacle was still new.

    People watch Roland Emmerich disaster movies based on the spectacle. 2012 didn't make 769 million because the biggest stars in the movie were John Cusack and Danny Glover. The Day After Tomorrow didn't make over 540 million based on the marquee power of Dennis Quaid who was the biggest star in the movie at that time. It's what he's good at he makes dumb movies with many money shots & familiar faces and cuts them into visual porn in the form of trailers to grab peoples attention & that formula brings the studio hundreds of millions in profit.

    This is why Fox is willing to bank on the guy. Don't be so naive thinking that him creating brand new disaster movie spectacle and money shots with his proven disaster movie formula as well as it being the sequel to his biggest hit to date won't bring in guap just because it's missing Will Smith. The effects and disaster will sell the movie above everything else. It's why they make the money they do worldwide despite being really mediocre movies. He's done it with his last 2 disaster movies with actors that aren't even a fraction as expensive as Will Smith. They made over a billion dollars combined because of the spectacle Emmerich created.

    As for stars of today that are bankable but inexpensive. Channing Tatum the star of Emmerich's White House action movie coming next week is one guy. The last 2 movies he headlined made 4 times (21 Jump Street) and 23 times (Magic Mike) their budget at the box office with over 160 million each and he doesn't even make 14 million per movie. Jamie Foxx who is a co-star in Emmerich's new movie took a pay cut for that movie and I'm sure got a good backend deal which is smart cause Tatum is proven money. He makes about as much as Smith per movie usually (20 million). James Franco's entire net worth isn't even 25 million yet the last 2 big budget genre movies he headlined (OZ: The Great and Powerful, Rise of the Planet of the Apes) both made over 480 million at the box office.
  • VIBE
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    "Welcome to earth!"

    Nah, it can be done without Will, but you cannot have half the cast back. You need a whole new cast and location.
  • Trollio
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  • Melanin_Enriched
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    Having the whole cast back sounds ? to me. I like where the director is taking this.
  • mc317
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    I eateded the purple berries
  • KingFreeman
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Idiot. People are checking for the concept not the actors. I didn't even know Will Smith was even in that movie till I saw it on opening day because the main advertisement playing in theaters didn't even show him. I went because of the destruction of manhattan trailer that ended with the white house going kaboom and so did many other people. It was something fresh back then when SFX spectacle was still new.

    People watch Roland Emmerich disaster movies based on the spectacle. 2012 didn't make 769 million because the biggest stars in the movie were John Cusack and Danny Glover. The Day After Tomorrow didn't make over 540 million based on the marquee power of Dennis Quaid who was the biggest star in the movie at that time. It's what he's good at he makes dumb movies with many money shots & familiar faces and cuts them into visual porn in the form of trailers to grab peoples attention & that formula brings the studio hundreds of millions in profit.

    This is why Fox is willing to bank on the guy. Don't be so naive thinking that him creating brand new disaster movie spectacle and money shots with his proven disaster movie formula as well as it being the sequel to his biggest hit to date won't bring in guap just because it's missing Will Smith. The effects and disaster will sell the movie above everything else. It's why they make the money they do worldwide despite being really mediocre movies. He's done it with his last 2 disaster movies with actors that aren't even a fraction as expensive as Will Smith. They made over a billion dollars combined because of the spectacle Emmerich created.

    As for stars of today that are bankable but inexpensive. Channing Tatum the star of Emmerich's White House action movie coming next week is one guy. The last 2 movies he headlined made 4 times (21 Jump Street) and 23 times (Magic Mike) their budget at the box office with over 160 million each and he doesn't even make 14 million per movie. Jamie Foxx who is a co-star in Emmerich's new movie took a pay cut for that movie and I'm sure got a good backend deal which is smart cause Tatum is proven money. He makes about as much as Smith per movie usually (20 million). James Franco's entire net worth isn't even 25 million yet the last 2 big budget genre movies he headlined (OZ: The Great and Powerful, Rise of the Planet of the Apes) both made over 480 million at the box office.

    I agree the director has a good track record of capitalizing on concepts that are at the forefront at the time. But that's as far as that goes. Fox struck gold by releasing the day after tomorrow and 2012 at the perfect times where the issues in the movies were genuine issues everybody on earth was talking about at the time. Id4 is a different animal. There was definitely the appeal of great movie graphics and destruction but Will smith was dominating television at that time and was transitioning to big screen. If you can deny the anticipation of people wanting to see the fresh prince and how he was going to do on the big screen as a box office draw I don't know what to tell you.

    Channing Tatum, jamie foxx, James Franco.
    Im not even gong to attempt to bother. Hug the numbers all you want.

    Bottom line is IF this movie gets released it will be looked at as the film that will smith didn't ? with. It won't succeed by the originals standard.
  • Swiffness!
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    this ? is gonna be sooooooooooo trash, the "Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd" of Sci-Fi.

    ID4 was perfect for the times, and as a stand-alone film. This ? reeks of more desperation than Amil droppin' a "All Money Is Legal 2" album.

    I swear, Roland Emmerich be making big-budget films around ? premises like he's on a Mission From ? . He makes Michael Bay look like Werner Herzog.
  • Recaptimus_Prime360
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    I'll wait to reserve judgement.
  • The Lonious Monk
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    The "I think some aliens will be back" line is what makes me raise an eyebrow. Why that even need to be said about an Independence Day follow-up unless they were planning on throwing some other silly storylines in there.
  • Will Munny
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    What about Jeff Goldbloom?