Musical Geniuses...

S2JS2J Members Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 2013 in The Reason
Imo most are non-rappers, but there's no traffic in 'r&b alternatives' sooo...do any rappers fall into this category?

For reference, some musical geniuses of all genres imo:

Prince
Michael Jackson
R. Kelly
Quincy Jones
Stevie Wonder
Kanye West (Yeezus doesnt discredit his history)

Imo only a few other rappers/ producers can be called 1
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  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Devin The Dude
    DJ Quik
    Warren G
    Pharell
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Juicy J/DJ Paul
    Jermaine Dupri
    Dallas Austin
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Biggie
    Guru
    Mannie Fresh
    Cee Lo

    Soon to be:
    Mac Miller
    Big Krit
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kid Cudi
    🤬 🤬 C
    Krayzie/Lazy Bone
  • S2JS2J Members Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2013
    How did i forget Ms. Lauryn Hill...
  • S2JS2J Members Posts: 28,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^^^ Cant tell if ur serious lol

    Out of all those I'd say Ceelo and Pharell are in the conversation
  • sullysully Members, Writer Posts: 4,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't put Kanye up there. What has he shown outside hip hop that can point to him being a genius musically? He's produced some R&B stuff, but R&B production really isn't that different from rap production nowadays.

    I think Kanye's dope, but the acclaim of "musical genius" is better awarded to people like RZA, Rick Rubin, Pharrell, Timbaland, Their ears for music extend beyond a single genre.
  • Already Home_17Already Home_17 Members Posts: 14,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2013
    sully wrote: »
    I wouldn't put Kanye up there. What has he shown outside hip hop that can point to him being a genius musically? He's produced some R&B stuff, but R&B production really isn't that different from rap production nowadays.

    I think Kanye's dope, but the acclaim of "musical genius" is better awarded to people like RZA, Rick Rubin, Pharrell, Timbaland, Their ears for music extend beyond a single genre.







    you can hear rappers over these beats?
    alright lol not labeling him a genius in the R&B department but he has some gems in his catalog
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So, Cee Lo can get in but Warren G and the Roots can't...?
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Rico Wade/Organized Noize
  • N YO HOODN YO HOOD Members Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thete are no rappers in this category
  • Lab BabyLab Baby Parts Unknown via BrooklynMembers Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone Outkast/Organized Noize/DF related
    RZA
    Dilla Dog (damn near created his own genre)
    Marley Marl (took sampling to a whole new level)
    🤬 🤬 it... Rick Rubin
    01-07 Kanye gets in, but he's become more of a prima donna than a producer these days.
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Madlib

  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Still breathing . .


    Robert Glasper (listening now)

    Herbie Hancock


    George Benson
  • Lab BabyLab Baby Parts Unknown via BrooklynMembers Posts: 8,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2013
    rip.dilla wrote: »

    Madlib

    🤬 🤬 ! How did I forget him?!

    And to add on... Nujabes. I had to listen to his whole discography to understand his talent.
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis


    Kenneth Edmonds


    Rodney Jerkins


    Teddy Riley . .


  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DJ Premier


  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Salaam Remi


    No ID


    Q Tip



  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    K-Os
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Black Milk


    Alchemist


    Block Beattaz





    Ski Beatz
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JUSTICE League


    L. E. S


    Pete Rock





    DJ Screw (rip.)
  • A1000MILESA1000MILES Members, Writer Posts: 13,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Timbaland

    Missy Elliot

    🤬 🤬 , Scott Storch
  • goldenjagoldenja Members Posts: 6,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    when you say "genius"
    do you mean from a writing stand point?
    instrument playing/producing standpoint?
    both?

    are there any other perspectives that make a musician a genius?
  • rip.dillarip.dilla ... push up the fader... bust the meter... shake the tweeter Members Posts: 17,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
    *pours out liqour for all the "geniuses" departed*


    Robert Nesta Marley


    Olufela Anikulakpo Kuti

    James Yancey



    Peter Mackintosh


    Chad Lamont Butler


    Dwight Errington Myers

    Tupac Amaru Shakur


    Christopher Wallace


    Marvin Gaye

    Whitney Houston






    Michael Joseph Jackson . ..
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