Skyfather level tournament

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evoljeanyes
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edited September 2013 in Quite Comical
Odin vs Zues
Surtur v Molecule Man
Dormammu vs Shuma Gorath
Cyttorak vs Trigonometry

Odin over Zues
Surtur over molecule man
Dormammu over Shuma
trigon over cyttorak

Odin over Surtur
Dormamnu over Trigonometry

Odin over Dormammu

Skyfather level tournament 5 votes

Odin
40%
gnsevoljeanyes 2 votes
Zues
0%
Surtur
0%
Molecule Man
0%
Dormammu
0%
Shuma Gorath
40%
Bcotton5DarkRaiden 2 votes
Cyttorak
0%
Trigon
20%
dneez0228 1 vote
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    Dormmy isnt over Shuma,hes Odin level but he plots and schemes to beat more powerful than him like when he beat Eternity
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    Shuma is over all of them
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  • The Lonious Monk
    The Lonious Monk Members Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shuma is not Skyfather level. He's far above that.
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  • DarkRaiden
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    Shuma Gorath
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Shuma is not Skyfather level. He's far above that.
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  • gns
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    Odin
    How tf molecule(molecular?) Man get on this list?
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Shuma is not Skyfather level. He's far above that.
    Far above that how?
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    I thought shuma was equivalent to agamotto? Not true?
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  • jaxn
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    Agamotto is stronger than Shuma
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Shuma is not Skyfather level. He's far above that.
    Far above that how?

    If I'm not mistaken, it was stated that Demon's on Dormammu's level were like servants in the worlds Shuma has conquered. Even if we take the Many Angled Ones to represent Shuma in some fashion, they were more of a threat than Dormammu has ever been.
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    The Lonious Monk wrote: »
    Shuma is not Skyfather level. He's far above that.
    Far above that how?

    If I'm not mistaken, it was stated that Demon's on Dormammu's level were like servants in the worlds Shuma has conquered. Even if we take the Many Angled Ones to represent Shuma in some fashion, they were more of a threat than Dormammu has ever been.

    Dormmy usually jobs to Strange hes far above him. Hes Odin level but with prep he takes down beings like Eternity
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    So wait I am way off on Shuma being skyfather...PIS is the only way to explain dormammu beating eternity. I thought with certainty that Shuma Cyttorak agamotto and Dormammu were peers. Am I way off? @theloniousmonk @jaxn
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    Shuma and Agommotto are above skyfather below universal abstract? Where does Spectre rank? Is he Above Galactus and anti monitor or below/equal?
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  • The Lonious Monk
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    People always bring up Dormy beating Eternity but seem to forget that Eternity was in a weakened stated and Dormammu had absorbed the powers of a bunch of high level Demon Lords. He never beat Eternity at his normal level of power.

    Spectre is a wild card. His power comes straight from the Presence and can be however much the Presence feels he should have. So the Spectre's power has ranged from standard Marvel Earth hero level to High Cosmic. On the average though I'd say he's probably below High Father level.
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  • jaxn
    jaxn Members Posts: 1,819 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'm pretty sure Dormammu is stronger that Shuma too.
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    I thought for sure Odin was the ? of Skyfather's. Dormammu seems to give him trouble most...then I thought agamotto Shuma would be right there with cyttorak Trigon coming after. To me Sky fathers used to be written as just a rung below Galactus eternity and them...so it would be LT then eternity death Galactus then Odin as far as power rankings. But I presume that has changed.
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  • jaxn
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    I wouldn't say Odin is the ? of skyfathers, he's just the one who sees the most shine. He's probably slightly stronger than Zeus though. If i'm not mistaken, Agamotto is stronger. Shuma may be stronger in his own dimension, but that pretty much goes for all mystics
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    Agamotto has a realm as well correct? Odin's skills don't fluctuate outside of Asgard much! That's why I put him so high. Plus he created man...and has some ridiculous feats.
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  • jaxn
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    this is off topic, but in one of these threads, i stated Surtur is more powerful than Odin. After pulling out some of the stacks, i'd place them evenly
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    jaxn wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure Dormammu is stronger that Shuma too.

    hes not. he even says it when they fight each other in marvel vs capcom 3
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    odin isnt the top of skyfathers either

    dormmy stalemated him with thor watching.

    Dormammu is omnipotent in his dimension like most of the others and weakened outside of it
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  • gns
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    Odin
    U ? iz ? out nerding me idk wtf y'all talking about.
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    odin isnt the top of skyfathers either

    dormmy stalemated him with thor watching.

    Dormammu is omnipotent in his dimension like most of the others and weakened outside of it

    Odin is above Dormammu...I don't see how anyone could put Odin below Shuma and agamotto based on feats.
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  • Bcotton5
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    Shuma Gorath
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    odin isnt the top of skyfathers either

    dormmy stalemated him with thor watching.

    Dormammu is omnipotent in his dimension like most of the others and weakened outside of it

    Odin is above Dormammu...I don't see how anyone could put Odin below Shuma and agamotto based on feats.

    Odin is not above Dormammu.....

    lol Shuma is waaaay above Skyfather level Shuma is Chaos
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  • evoljeanyes
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    Odin
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    odin isnt the top of skyfathers either

    dormmy stalemated him with thor watching.

    Dormammu is omnipotent in his dimension like most of the others and weakened outside of it

    Odin is above Dormammu...I don't see how anyone could put Odin below Shuma and agamotto based on feats.

    Odin is not above Dormammu.....

    lol Shuma is waaaay above Skyfather level Shuma is Chaos
    Based on what is Dormammu above Odin? And how is Shuma waaaaaay above sky father? No diss just explain.
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  • DarkRaiden
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    Shuma Gorath
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    I thought shuma was equivalent to agamotto? Not true?
    jaxn wrote: »
    Agamotto is stronger than Shuma
    Nah Shuma stalemate the Vishanti (it's theorized). All we know is he fought all three of them, and they couldn't beat him nor banish him from the 616. Though they still lived. So it was a likely stalemate.
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    evoljeanyes wrote: »
    Bcotton5 wrote: »
    odin isnt the top of skyfathers either

    dormmy stalemated him with thor watching.

    Dormammu is omnipotent in his dimension like most of the others and weakened outside of it

    Odin is above Dormammu...I don't see how anyone could put Odin below Shuma and agamotto based on feats.

    Odin is not above Dormammu.....

    lol Shuma is waaaay above Skyfather level Shuma is Chaos
    Based on what is Dormammu above Odin? And how is Shuma waaaaaay above sky father? No diss just explain.

    It was stated IIRC that Odin and Dormammu stalemated in a fight once.

    Shuma is waaaaaay above Skyfather by conquering many universes, by making the Galactus Engine (and killing Death in the cancerverse) by even CLassic Dr. Strange needed prep and more, still losing, and using Shuma's own energies just to temporarily beat him, and by stalemating the Vishanti, when one of them was stalemating Galactus 1v1 and Galactus stomps sky fathers.
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