5 reasons to love-hate WWE's Attitude Era

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jono
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LOVE
#5: Everybody had a storyline.
There was a reason to watch the entire show because all the characters were involved in something.

#4: ? Title.
Always good for a quick match that featured random and sometime main event talent that beat each other with odds and ends in what was a totally fun atmosphere.

#3: Gimmick matches.
Lawd the gimmick matches were GOAT. The birth of TLC, the Armageddon HIAC match, first blood and last man standing matches. WWE started using triple threats a lot more often too.

#2: Awesome talent pool.
This one begins primarily in 1999-2000 when WWE's midcard got full of great talent all over the card. Jericho, Guerrero, Benoit, Austin, Angle, Rock, HHH, Hardyz, Edge & Christian there were just so many great people to watch.

#1: Competition.
Simply put WWE had to put on the best show they could because WCW was on at the same time. This made everything pick up. Watching WWE in 1995(ugh) and watching it in 1998 were like two different companies. A complete change in creative direction took place that made the product much more fun.
HATE
#5: Stupid storylines.
The byproduct of every one having a storyline was that a lot of times those stories were dumb and pointless.

#4: Pointless interferences.
I can't count how many times a good match is detailed because somebody did a run in. It was so overused and ruined quite a few good matches.

#3: Title switches.
Way too many title changes prevented alot of guys from being heavily pushed. No doubt this is due to Russo's "titles are just props" mentality.

#2: Repetitiveness.
Too many catchphrase filled promos and repetitive matches.

#1: Over use of McMahons.
Vince is great, Shane is good, Steph is aight and Linda is just bad. Problem is that the McMahon started to dominate storylines and TV time taking away from others who deserved it.
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  • Serious Juice Mayne
    Serious Juice Mayne Guests, Members, Writer, Content Producer Posts: 5,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Vince on tv >> 98 percent of the roster on tv during the A.A
  • jono
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    Hell nah. Maybe in the early part from 1997-1999 Vince was important. He gave a lot of rubs to guys with the corporation storyline but once it became the endless McMahon family feud it was a waste.

    Dude was still holding court in 2003. He overstayed his welcome but he really is an awesome character, just should have been used in moderation after the fall of the corporation storyline.
  • Killface_toast
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    75% of WWF's wrestling style became punches and kicks during the attitude era.
  • jono
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    75% of WWF's wrestling style became punches and kicks during the attitude era.

    Glad I wasn't the only one who peeped that.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    what about the puppies
  • jono
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    I remember Jackie had a wardrobe malfunction at one of those PPVs and her ? flopped out.

    There were a few sets of ? that never got old like Sable, Trish and Debra but that was about it. The rest of them hoes (except Molly thick ass) were wack.
  • RawAce
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    Her ? didn't pop out or slip out,
    He said they flopped out

    Roflmao
  • Trill Gate$
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    I've never heard anyone say they hated anything about the Attitude Era
  • nujerz84
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    New Age Outlaws vs The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin.... Crowd pop big for all three each pop a bit bigger than the next...lmao at Grandma going word for word with Road Dogg I get goosebumps from the Intro all three no ? . Pause at Billy Gunn gimmick

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9IaYkbIm3c
  • Trollio
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    nao top 10 tag team
  • poindexter2
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    LMAO Jim Ross DX is together DX! DX! DX! Dammit. Classic ?
  • Broddie
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    Can't list 5 reasons either way because I haven't watched any of that stuff since it first aired and can't be too specific. From memory though the 2 main reasons I liked it were 1997 and 1998. I mean I grew up a Rockers fan and never thought I'd see HBK retire when he was finally peaking as a singles competitor or McMahon finally admit to being the owner on screen instead of just being an announcer.

    The montreal screwjob to me was a bigger punch in the gut than Hogan going heel since I never saw that live being that I mostly ignored WCW once they fired the Fabolous Blondes. As someone who was watching WWF since the late 80's at that point a lot of it was revolutionary to me. Every single episode of RAW & every ppv was worth watching at that point. You never knew what would happen next.

    I got left back in 9th grade partly cause of that ? because I would never do any homework once I got home on Monday nights. WWF was at it's peak at that time and history was being made left and right it was ? . 1999 was kinda wack though. Easily the worst year of that era.

    All that momentum got derailed with senseless ? like "I did it for The Rock" and Sexual Chocolate chasing after Chyna and Mae ? Young. The only thing that redeemed it was the radicalz and Jericho making the switch since they were the only reason I even watched 10 minutes of Nitro on any given week by that point. For the most part though a lot of it just didn't work for me from what I remember but 2000 got ? back on track too bad 2001 ruined all the goodwill once again and turned me away as a lifelong fan for quite a long time.
  • jono
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    Im basically one of the only people willing to criticize that era. People seen to love everything about that era but then i have to bring up Al Snow being fed his own dog, or the repetitive "Val Venis had sex with your wife/sister" type storylines. Those ? got old really quick but seemed I last forever.
  • Broddie
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    You're right that people look back on this era with rose tinted lenses. Likely because it's when many of them became fans but I call a ? a ? . I mean I started watching back when Brutus The Barber Beefcake used to get huge pops and I have no problem ? on the wacker elements of the golden era. Not back then as a kid and certainly not in retrospect. most of Wrestlemania IV and Virgil being allowed to cut promos on ppv's.

    Same with the new generation era. I mean I pretty much hated WM 9 and 11 from the moment they first aired. There was a lot of filler around in the Attitude Era not to the extent of today mind you but when you mentioned Val Venis it brought back to memory another gem from '99. "I choppy your ? ? " smh. Seriously 1999 was the worst year of that decade in WWF history since 1995. Not even 1996 with the ? failed HBK babyface run with Jose Lothario in Shawn's corner had as much blandness and this was after Razor Ramon (one of my top 3 at the time) straight up bounced and the face of the company (Shawn) was playing a role he obviously was uncomfortable with.
  • jono
    jono Members Posts: 30,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I always hesitate to debate the AE wih people who only watched it on YouTube because they didn't sit through the ? I had to.

    Dude once was tryna tell me how great St. Valentines Day Massacre was and I remember renting it on tape and having to sit through some terrible matches to get to the two good ones that were on that card. There's no way you cant sell me that event, ? it was trash.

  • Cutler 26 INT's LOL!
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    I sat through the attitude era as a teenager...99 was a damn bad year but those angles were insanely over.

    Val Venis gimmick did nor get old. They had him join Right To Censor then back to the porn gimmick, that's what killed his heat.
  • DOPEdweebz
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    Broddie wrote: »
    Can't list 5 reasons either way because I haven't watched any of that stuff since it first aired and can't be too specific. From memory though the 2 main reasons I liked it were 1997 and 1998. I mean I grew up a Rockers fan and never thought I'd see HBK retire when he was finally peaking as a singles competitor or McMahon finally admit to being the owner on screen instead of just being an announcer.

    The montreal screwjob to me was a bigger punch in the gut than Hogan going heel since I never saw that live being that I mostly ignored WCW once they fired the Fabolous Blondes. As someone who was watching WWF since the late 80's at that point a lot of it was revolutionary to me. Every single episode of RAW & every ppv was worth watching at that point. You never knew what would happen next.

    I got left back in 9th grade partly cause of that ? because I would never do any homework once I got home on Monday nights. WWF was at it's peak at that time and history was being made left and right it was ? . 1999 was kinda wack though. Easily the worst year of that era.

    All that momentum got derailed with senseless ? like "I did it for The Rock" and Sexual Chocolate chasing after Chyna and Mae ? Young. The only thing that redeemed it was the radicalz and Jericho making the switch since they were the only reason I even watched 10 minutes of Nitro on any given week by that point. For the most part though a lot of it just didn't work for me from what I remember but 2000 got ? back on track too bad 2001 ruined all the goodwill once again and turned me away as a lifelong fan for quite a long time.
    I did it for the rock thing was 2000. The mae young giving birth to a hand was 2000 I believe also.

    I ? with 99. Smackdown just started and ? felt like I was watching a PPV every week b4 it eventually got watered down post Invasion and especially post Brock.
  • Killface_toast
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    Smackdown: year one was ? epic.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    the ? with the AE was that the lowest dude on the roster was getting current top guy pops everybody had storylines and that ? had kids and grown folks stuck watching from start to finish.

    now days dont noone wanna see dudes like 3mb and ?
  • jono
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    Thing is they made sure there was a reason to watch everyone, they don't do that now.

    There's no reason to watch 3MB, they don't do anything at all storyline wise or using their gimmick as opposed to Too Cool who had at least the dancing comedic gimmick even though they were jobbers who didnt do much storyline wise.
  • TRILLip Brooks
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    Broddie wrote: »
    You're right that people look back on this era with rose tinted lenses. Likely because it's when many of them became fans but I call a ? a ? . I mean I started watching back when Brutus The Barber Beefcake used to get huge pops and I have no problem ? on the wacker elements of the golden era. Not back then as a kid and certainly not in retrospect. most of Wrestlemania IV and Virgil being allowed to cut promos on ppv's.

    Same with the new generation era. I mean I pretty much hated WM 9 and 11 from the moment they first aired. There was a lot of filler around in the Attitude Era not to the extent of today mind you but when you mentioned Val Venis it brought back to memory another gem from '99. "I choppy your ? ? " smh. Seriously 1999 was the worst year of that decade in WWF history since 1995. Not even 1996 with the ? failed HBK babyface run with Jose Lothario in Shawn's corner had as much blandness and this was after Razor Ramon (one of my top 3 at the time) straight up bounced and the face of the company (Shawn) was playing a role he obviously was uncomfortable with.

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    1999 may have been the worst year of the Attitude era, but it still good moments

    Nothing is worst than 1995. You know the year of The Goon, Mantaur, Aldo Montoya etc. You know the year Mabel won King of the Ring and had that ? awful WWF title match at summerslam with Diesel
  • jono
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    Another thing is yeah those guys got pops but nobody cares about them now.

    If Val Venis showed up on RAW who would know him? What about Al Snow or Scotty 2 Hotty?

    Outside smarks nobody cares about those guys. They got pops and good reactions then but they aren't big stars and didn't do anything memorable.

    I think people forget that big stars will always get pops. Dusty Rhodes is before damn near everybody's time an he still gets pops. Bruno still gets pops but so many guys that got over during their era wouldn't. So don't get confused that because Foley and Rock are memorable that all of a sudden Gangrel and Mideon are too.
  • Broddie
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    Remember when Grandmaster Sexy was feuding with his dad and got completely no sold by the entire arena? that ? was sad to watch.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJsXAqa_Xv0

    you see the real pain in his eyes as he realizes nobody has popped for him but he has to shuck around like a damn fool.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    lmao ? was crickets straight ether
  • Peezy_Jenkins
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    that ? was so quiet, i bet u could heard somebody from the nose bleeds sneeze if u were in the arena