10 Black Scholars Who Debunked Eurocentric Propaganda

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http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10/06/10-black-scholars-debunked-eurocentric-propaganda/

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Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop
Senegalese-born Cheikh Anta Diop (1923 – 1986) received his doctorate degree from the University of Paris and was a brilliant historian, anthropologist, physicist and politician and one of the most prominent and proficient black scholars in the history of African civilization.
Contrary to the long-standing European myth of a Caucasian Egypt, Diop’s studies into origins of the human race and precolonial African culture established that ancient Egypt was founded, populated, and ruled by black Africans; the Egyptian language and culture still exists in modern African languages (including his own Wolof language) ; and that black Egypt was responsible for the rise of civilization throughout Africa and the Mediterranean, including Greece and Rome.
Diop also pioneered techniques of scientific research – such as carbon dating as a means of dating artifacts and remains, and the melanin dosage test which he used to verify the melanin content of Egyptian mummies. Forensic investigators later adopted this technique to determine the “racial identity” of badly burned accident victims. Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar, Senegal, is named after him.
Source: cheikhantadiop.com

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Dr. John Henrik Clarke
Dr. John Henrik Clarke (1915 – 1998) was a Pan-Africanist writer, historian, professor, and a pioneer in the establishment of Africana studies in professional institutions in academia starting in the late 1960s. He was professor of African world history and in 1969, he became the founding chairman of the Department of Black and Puerto Rican Studies at Hunter College of the City University of New York. He also was the Carter G. Woodson Distinguished Visiting Professor of African History at Cornell University’s Africana Studies and Research Center.
He challenged the mostly white academic historians and attributed their reluctance to acknowledge the historical contributions of black people as part of the systematic and racist suppression and distortion of African history.
Clarke asserted: ”Nothing in Africa had any European influence before 332 B.C. If you have 10,000 years behind you before you even saw a European, then who gave you the idea that he moved from the ice-age, came all the way into Africa and built a great civilization and disappeared,when he had not built a shoe for himself or a house with a window?”
Source: Africana.library.cornell.edu/africana/clarke/index.html

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Dr. Marimba Ani
Dr. Marimba Ani is an anthropologist and African Studies scholar best known for her book “Yurugu,” a comprehensive critique of European thought and culture. She completed her Bachelor of Arts degree at the University of Chicago, and holds masters and doctorate degrees in anthropology from the Graduate Faculty of the New School University.
In her ground-breaking work, “Yurugu: An Afrikan-Centered Critique of European Cultural Thought and Behavior,” Ani uses an African perspective through the myths of the Dogon people and the language of Swahili to examine the impact of European cultural influence on black people and the world. She developed a framework that methodically debunked the belief that Western civilization was the best, most constructive society ever built and instead she pointed out its inherent destructive tendencies.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marimba_Ani

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Dr. Amos Wilson
Dr. Amos N. Wilson (1941 – 1995) was a social caseworker, psychological counselor, supervising probation officer and training administrator in the New York City Department of Juvenile Justice. He was also an assistant professor of psychology at the City University of New York.
In his book “Black-on-Black Violence: The Psychodynamic of Black Self-Annihilation in Service of White ? ,” Wilson, discredited the pervasive myth that blacks are inherently criminal.
Not only did he chronicle the vast history of violence that was pervasive in American culture, but he also demonstrated how black-on-black violence and black male criminality in the United States was a politically and economically engineered process designed to maintain the subservience and relative powerlessness of black people and black communities worldwide.
However, Wilson contended that bringing an end to black-on-black violence and criminality is the sole responsibility of all black people. In his book he lays out practical and theoretical ways of eradicating it.
Source: Awis.scripterz.org

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Ivan van Sertima
Dr. Ivan Gladstone Van Sertima (1935 – 2009) was a Guyanese-born associate professor of Africana Studies at Rutgers University in New Jersey. He was best known for his work “They Came before Columbus,” which provided a pyramid of evidence to support the idea that ancient Africans were master shipbuilders who sailed from Africa to the Americas thousands of years before Spanish explorer Christopher Columbus, and that the Africans traded with the indigenous people, leaving lasting influences on their cultures. In one example, Van Sertima presents evidence that Emperor Abubakari of Mali used these “almadias” or longboats to make a trip to the Americas during the 1300s.
Van Sertima methodically demonstrates that these blacks were not slaves, but traders and priests who were honored and venerated by the Native Americans who built statues – Olmec heads- in their honor. In the closing of the book, he declaimed the notion of “discovery” by Columbus.
In 1987, Van Sertima testified before a United States congressional committee to oppose recognition of the 500th anniversary of Christopher Columbus’ “discovery” of the Americas. He said, “You cannot really conceive of how insulting it is to Native Americans … to be told they were discovered.”
Source: raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/ancientamerica.htm
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  • Arya Tsaddiq
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  • Ajackson17
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    It's amazing how in their time they stood up against eurocentric ideology and their research have stood the test of time and attacked and they were desecrated and yet the science of the europeans proved they were absolutely right. Now, they don't even show whites of hispanics, but dark skin people as the first people going through the rest of the world in their specials. The white racists get madder and madder, but their dream world is about to end for them. They were not a major concern until we made them so.
  • janklow
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    not sure all of this qualifies as "debunking," but hey
  • DMTxTHC
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    janklow wrote: »
    not sure all of this qualifies as "debunking," but hey
    Don't get so caught up on the article's title.. it's about the contributions from the Black Scholars that are mentioned..
  • jono
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    No sign on Frances cress welsing...? believed pseudoscience (melanin theory) and The Isis papers is one of the WOAT books.

    Diop an Van Sertima are GOAT though, the rest I'll catch up on.
  • Bodhi
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  • kacee139
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    edited October 2013
    Dr. Amos wilson ..... I'm reading Blueprint for Black Power now.... Its like 900 pages but i can't put it down for too long... Dr. Amos is the truth str8 facts
  • Ajackson17
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    Glad to see the traffic in here Dr. John Henrik Clarke is a great pioneer in true African History and understanding the philosphy and mindset of the African people.
  • Black Boy King
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  • indyman87
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    jono wrote: »
    No sign on Frances cress welsing...? believed pseudoscience (melanin theory) and The Isis papers is one of the WOAT books.

    Diop an Van Sertima are GOAT though, the rest I'll catch up on.

    Well I don't believe the Melanin Theory to be pseudoscience especially since White people have been going all the way to Thialand to live in darkness for 14 days in an effort to decalcify their pineal gland.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMF2bWpKEQ


    I haven't heard of this lady until now but reading a few of the articles I came across she's pretty deep.

    http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13999681/fpart/all/vc/1

    No Black female should have children before the age of 30, and no Black man should become a father before the age of 35

    babies having babies by Terry Tate

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHLKJpk39E0

    Using Fuller's contention that "most white people hate black people [because] whites are not black people," Welsing went on to suggest that "any neurotic drive for superiority," in this case, the white drive, is based on a "deep and pervading sense of inadequacy and inferiority



  • indyman87
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    Society has taught us that Black is bad but that's not the case. You should look up the term Black Body Radiation and ask yourself why scientist are trying to create a substance that's 100 percent pure Black.
  • DMTxTHC
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    GOAT thread
    Oceanic wrote: »
    Great thread
    Ziryab wrote: »
    awesome thread @DMTxCannabis
    I appreciate that fellas..
  • Ajackson17
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    edited October 2013
    Why black men should not have children before the age of 35?

    Can't see none of the vids at work, sucks..
  • High Revolutionary
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    "You set the pace now we finish the race
    it's on now."
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  • Elzo69Renaissance
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    Standing Ovation for this thread
  • The Lonious Monk
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    jono wrote: »
    No sign on Frances cress welsing...? believed pseudoscience (melanin theory) and The Isis papers is one of the WOAT books.

    Diop an Van Sertima are GOAT though, the rest I'll catch up on.

    Yeah, I'll also say that besides the debatable scientific nature of what she presented, it's not profound in any way. She said that white supremacy is rooted in the white belief that the recessive nature of their genes will lead to their extinction. Well, the KKK and other white supremacist groups have been saying that since their very beginnings. Hell, one of the major tenants of those groups is to stand against the interracial comingling because it will produce a mixed race (mud people) and lead to the destruction of the white race.

    I'll say this. It's unfortunate that white people have pushed these people's work to the periphery for two reasons. One, the general scientific community looks at a lot of the work in the same way we rightfully look at a lot of that white supremacist pseudo science. And more importantly, two, these people's works haven't been submitted to the same type of rigorous intellectual debate that other more accepted theories have. That's the crux of the situation. Black theories don't need white approval, but scientific theories do need to be subjected to adequate peer review. Diop and Van Sertima in particular presented some real interesting theories, but I don't think that those theories have been tested to the same degree that others have, and a lot of the criticisms that have been lobbied against them were unfair and based more in racism than a scientific desire for truth. It sucks.
  • janklow
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    edited October 2013
    Don't get so caught up on the article's title.. it's about the contributions from the Black Scholars that are mentioned..
    fair point, but it IS the title, you know. so...
    anyway, jono's right about Welsing and she's the prime example of someone on the list failing to "debunk" anything. also:
    Black theories don't need white approval, but scientific theories do need to be subjected to adequate peer review. Diop and Van Sertima in particular presented some real interesting theories, but I don't think that those theories have been tested to the same degree that others have, and a lot of the criticisms that have been lobbied against them were unfair and based more in racism than a scientific desire for truth.
    this right here. right now you have a situation where criticism them is often dismissed as "racism" and, in turn, their theories dismissed for equally stupid reasons. ALSO:
    indyman87 wrote: »
    Well I don't believe the Melanin Theory to be pseudoscience especially since White people have been going all the way to Thialand to live in darkness for 14 days in an effort to decalcify their pineal gland.
    white people traveling overseas to do stupid ? ?! WELL I NEVER

    yeah, that ? is pseudoscience
  • Undergroundraplegend
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    edited October 2013
    John henrick,amos wilson are the ones I like the most

    edit:I mean listen to/read the most
  • Black Boy King
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    lol melanin is not pseudoscience... but it being what it is, its not something european scientists (whom the mainstream truly trusts) would be thrilled to spend much time researching about just to empower ? ya know..
  • Ajackson17
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    Ziryab wrote: »
    lol melanin is not pseudoscience... but it being what it is, its not something european scientists (whom the mainstream truly trusts) would be thrilled to spend much time researching about just to empower ? ya know..

    Than research my ? , because melanin is there in birth.

  • indyman87
    indyman87 Members Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭✭
    If u want to see the melanin in your body get a boost y don't u do a little experiment and spend sometime in complete darkness and see what happens? :) don't be scarred
  • janklow
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    Ziryab wrote: »
    lol melanin is not pseudoscience... but it being what it is, its not something european scientists (whom the mainstream truly trusts) would be thrilled to spend much time researching about just to empower ? ya know..
    saying "European scientists are scared of it" does not make it real science. see how your argument isn't "here's the scientific proof," but "don't trust white scientists?" yeah.

  • Black Boy King
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    janklow wrote: »
    Ziryab wrote: »
    lol melanin is not pseudoscience... but it being what it is, its not something european scientists (whom the mainstream truly trusts) would be thrilled to spend much time researching about just to empower ? ya know..
    saying "European scientists are scared of it" does not make it real science. see how your argument isn't "here's the scientific proof," but "don't trust white scientists?" yeah.

    Who are you quoting in your quotations?