The Wire (Revisted)
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The Lonious Monk wrote: »
we've gone over this a bunch of times,Avon didn't have a choice,Mouzone was gonna cut off his NY supply not just
for dope but for muscle too,Avon clearly says how can we fix it and asks "how much",he was willing to pay for
String's ? up but Mouzone didn't want paper he wanted get back for being set-up. Annnnd at the time Avon was
at war with Marlo,so he would have had to deal with Marlo and Mouzone's people.
All you're doing is providing a justification. I'm sure Avon had a reason for betraying Stringer, that doesn't mean it wasn't a bad betrayal. Your girl might ? another dude. She's got reasons (e.g., he has more money, better sex, etc...) that might have made it seem like a worthwhile move for her to make. That doesn't mean you're going to feel any less betrayed when it happens. Again, Stringer was the worse person/friend, but Avon's betrayal was worse because it had the more dire consequences.
Its a discussion because people like you are answering this question from a 9-5 John Q citizen point of view.
Avon and Stringer are street ? so they deal with ? from that point of view. From a street point of view snitching on your man or anybody period is the worst ? thing you can do. End of story.
A person who truly goes and lives by street codes knows that if you and your man are not seeing eye to eye. You either go your separate ways, work the ? out or start beefing and trying to ? one another. Whats never an option is snitching.
That line of thinking you on is just another reason the streets is so ? up the way they are now. Too many ? have actually accepted that there are reasons and justifications for snitching where there isn't.
Oh my bad King Gangsta, don't let me question your street authority. FOH lol
"Real Street ? " snitch every day B. There has never been a period in criminal history in the world where criminals weren't telling on each other to improve their own interests. Half the mob bosses, gangsters, street ? , etc... that people out there idolize snitched at some point. So stop it with that ? . Avon didn't go up to Stringer and tell him they were enemies and that it was on. He kicked it with him one last night and then set him up to be killed. The streets are ? because ? are stupid. The fact that you would come on here and try to act like there is any line of reasoning where snitching to the police is somehow worse than setting your man up to be killed proves it. Again, both are ? up, but only one allows your man to come back from it. Avon was doing just fine in prison even at the end of the series. We saw that. What was String looking like by the end of the series?
But he was the worse of the two huh? Ok.
Pull your skirt down sweeheart.
The fact that you think a snitch is a "REAL" anything says everything I need to know.
Didn't even bother to waste my time reading the rest of the ? you posted after the bold.
lol WTF? ? , did you not see the quotation marks in what you bolded? Nevermind, you just exposed yourself so there is no point trying to have a reasonable discussion with you. -
Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...
Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street ? ". He lived by rules of the game....point blank period.
On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street ? ", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make ? happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street ? , but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shots..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe ? ...
I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the ? Stringer had done
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It was never about a connect
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »It was never about a connect
It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer -
Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...
Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street ? ". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.
On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street ? ", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make ? happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street ? , but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the ? ..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe ? ...
I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the ? Stringer had donehttp://youtu.be/91CpbRq9Tiw
I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power. -
The Lonious Monk wrote: »Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...
Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street ? ". He livedd by rules of the game....point blank period.
On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street ? ", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make ? happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street ? , but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the ? ..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe ? ...
I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the ? Stringer had donehttp://youtu.be/91CpbRq9Tiw
I don't think Avon knew Stringer's true colors before he got knocked. I mean he probably suspected Stringer wasn't the same as him, but Stringer probably truly didn't become who he was until he got the power.
I agree with that....you can see this becoming clear to Avon once he got home
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »It was never about a connect
It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer
Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a ? like Avon can always find a new connect -
Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »It was never about a connect
It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer
Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a ? like Avon can always find a new connect
You right about them moving on, but Muzone basically told Avon he would be cut off in New York...this meant anything his business needed including drugs...Everybody know Avon wanted the crown alone, so that Prop Joe co-op wouldnt have lasted long had Avon been out longer....he never wanted them in is towers to begin with...
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Avon was loyal to the game/an honorable ?
String knew the game was ? and ain't give a ? about honor in that ?
"It's games beyond the games"
String was a better version of Ghost. String could be a slimy ? ..favorite character though...respect his ambition, ruthlessness at times
DeAngelo was probably good when they finally pulled the trigger on him...seemed like he was finally willing to be a man about it, just too late. -
I would have liked to see a back story about how Avon and stringer came to power
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Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »Elzo69Renaissance wrote: »It was never about a connect
It wsnt the whole reason but it was definitely a part of Avon's decision to let them hit Stringer
Naw man if anything they had already moved on to Prop Joe s package....plus a ? like Avon can always find a new connect
You right about them moving on, but Muzone basically told Avon he would be cut off in New York...this meant anything his business needed including drugs...Everybody know Avon wanted the crown alone, so that Prop Joe co-op wouldnt have lasted long had Avon been out longer....he never wanted them in is towers to begin with...https://youtu.be/WNEj2cMPTvQ
Now u getting it....it wasn't bout no drugs or nothing...Muzone was telling Avon if he didn't fix this ? , his name/reputation d be dead in the streets.....it's a parralel to Marlo s my name is my name scene -
Some of you have a limited understand of Avon and Stringer...
Avon by all accounts was a bonafide "street ? ". He lived by rules of the game....point blank period.
On the other hand, Stringer Bell was more complex. As Stringer's story unfolded, it was shown that Stringer was not a "street ? ", but a business man whose business was in the streets. There is a huge difference between the two. Stringer's m.o. was maximizimg profits,while minimizing his loses so he could go legit. Stringer was never the killa type, but as a business man he put things in place to make ? happen whenever his progres was threatened. IMO, Avon knew that Stringer was never a street ? , but kept him around because he was smart. Avon played himself because when he got knocked he left Stringer in the position to call all the shots..so for Avon to turn his back on his brother for a connect was some hoe ? ...
I'm gonna leave you with Avon and Stinger's version of Nino and G Money...he could have killed Stringer himself and made a bigger statement to the connect that he's all in,but he lined his guy up because he knew it was wrong despite the ? Stringer had donehttp://youtu.be/91CpbRq9Tiw
nah bruh...
stringer was a street business dude....not a man regular business dude..
thats the difference
its like a street level drug dealer and a pharma sales rep ...they are both the same but one knows who he is and the other thinks he does. string was a street level drug dealer thinking he was trapped an should be a pharma sales rep -
Finally finished the series with my late ass
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Will Munny wrote: »Vader_D_Roosevelt wrote: »Rawls,was a DL ? got he was,that ? bar but they never expanded on it
I didn't get that either, I think they did that tho just to show he's a cowardly person.
nah...they did it to point out the obvious contradiction and overcompensating he had been doing the entire series with making homophobic slurs and references when he would talk to McNulty
come to find out, he is the one who likes men all along
but he has to ? bash to take attention/suspicion away from himself. -
Just noticed mcnulty's the traitor in 300. Ain't he tried to ? that ? ? Lol
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"Let's walk
What's the rule?"
"I know the rule"
"Say it"
"Don't talk in the car
Or on the phone, or in any place that ain't ours
and don't say ? to anybody who ain't us
But it was just you, yo
It's your ? ' truck
Don't talk in the car
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on my 4th viewing of this show
just finished second season
i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one -
on my 4th viewing of this show
just finished second season
i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one
It's Immobilarity angle. When the first one was an instant classic and you depart from the formula of the first one, people aren't even going to give it a chance at first. It'll take a while before anyone gives it a fair chance. -
I appreciated season 2 because of what it did to influence season 3 and 4
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on my 4th viewing of this show
just finished second season
i said this on another site, but if you view season 2 as the glue to the series instead of looking at it from the lack of the barksdale angle, this season is a pretty damn good one
I be trying to tell folks this all the time.
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Word. Season 2 is legit the most important season of the show. If you want to consider it 'boring' because there wasn't a bunch of street ? trying to ? each other episode...I guess. ? was pretty interesting to me. -
I appreciated season 2 because of what it did to influence season 3 and 4
facts season 2 is so dope to me -
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Slim Charles was a real one. He always played his part.
