Obeezy cuts historic nuclear deal w/ Iran. Israel is ? !!!
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FuriousOne wrote: »Soloman the Wise wrote: »IT SADDENS ME HOW FEW PEOPLE ACTUALLY UNDER STAND the ? going on there and only cheer either side based on the rhetoric fed to us by the media on behalf of either party. In all Honesty in the immediate this does not effect my life so I could careless but if one group gains enough power over there and it the one pushing the agenda of converts all by any means then it becomes a problem for me so lack of stability and peace is in everyone's best interest till the fundamentalists lose power on all sides over there..
So why did the United States step to Iraq over Kuwait? Iraq was ran by a non-fundamentalist leader and kuwait is ran by the old guard. Both were on good terms with the US with Iraq being backed against Iran. Things don't seem as clear cut and i don't think Iran could touch Saudi Arabia without US interference. I'm not saying i know everything and situations do change.
Money Kuwait had money to pay us for protection same as the Saudi's. We were not on that great a terms with Iraq even then but we have a extortion racket and Saddam was ? up our money. Iraq and Iran had been keeping each other in check to a degree before we destroyed Iraq now we have put Iran in a position to follow through on consolidating power. In all honesty we should not have crushed Saddam as much as he was a sadistic ego-maniacal lunatic power hungry Nut he kept the religious Fundamentalist government of Iran in its place now they are making big move and we have to placed in the position of being the enforcers again. Unless that was the plan in the 1st place with taking down Iraq... -
everything the US does places them in a position to surround Iran.
stopping iran from getting nukes means when we finally go in there ...our troops wont get nuked.
it seems more like the US is going to consolidate power.
once the US takes over Iran an controls all the oil....all the build up ? china is doing will not mean ? ...it they dont have a main resource which is oil...
think back to how japan got pulled into WW2...the US disrupted their oil shipments and Japan had to respond -
http://www.france24.com/en/20131209-with-us-ties-frayed-saudi-calls-gulf-unionWith US ties frayed, Saudi calls for Gulf union
By blade
Created 09/12/2013 - 16:04
With its decades-old US alliance strained over the Syria war and a nuclear deal with Iran, Saudi Arabia is calling on the Gulf monarchies to unite for their own self-defence.
US Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel has assured Gulf states that the agreement struck between major powers and Iran on November 24 will not affect the presence of some 35,000 US troops in the region.
But in a speech at the Manama Dialogue security forum in Bahrain, Saudi Assistant Foreign Minister Nizar Madani said "Gulf countries should no longer depend on others to ensure their safety."
The oil-rich monarchies "must unite under one political entity in order to face internal and external challenges," said the minister.
Riyadh has called for an enhanced union with fellow Gulf Cooperation Council states Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, which together account for 40 percent of the world's oil reserves and a quarter of its natural gas.
"All countries have realised that blind dependence on a foreign power is no longer acceptable. GCC countries must decide their own futures," said Madani.
Saudi Arabia, long wary of Tehran's regional ambitions, has reacted cautiously to the nuclear deal reached in Geneva, saying it could mark the first step towards a comprehensive solution for Iran's nuclear programme "if there are good intentions."
The interim deal would curb Iran's controversial nuclear activities in exchange for some sanctions relief, and is aimed at buying time for negotiating a comprehensive accord.
On Sunday, Saudi Arabia's former intelligence chief Prince Turki al-Faisal suggested that the GCC states join the negotiations between Iran and the P5+1 -- the United States, Britain, France, Russia and China plus Germany.
Western nations have long suspected Iran of covertly pursuing nuclear weapons alongside its uranium enrichment programme -- charges denied by Tehran -- and the United States has not ruled out military action to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions.
Faisal stressed that the Sunni-dominated monarchies would immediately be affected by any regional military conflict or radiation leak, while accusing Shiite Iran of duplicity in its relations with its Arab neighbours.
"Iran addresses us with broad smiles, while at the same time their man in Lebanon accuses Saudi Arabia," Faisal said in reference to Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah, who blamed the kingdom for a twin suicide attack on the Iranian embassy in Beirut last month, which killed 25 people.
Iran is a key ally of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime, and the Lebanese Hezbollah and Iraqi Shiite militias are battling alongside his forces against the Sunni-led rebels, who are supported by Riyadh.
US accused of failing Syria rebels
Saudi Arabia has accused the United States of turning a blind eye to the bloodshed in Syria, which has killed an estimated 126,000 people since March 2011.
"The world sits as a spectator in front of the massacres against the Syrian people," said Faisal, the influential Saudi royal who served in the past as ambassador in Britain and the United States.
It is "necessary to provide the reasonable Syrian opposition with means to defend themselves," which the "United States does not do," he said.
"The Saudis blame the United States for imposing a veto on any delivery of heavy weapons or anti-aircraft batteries to the Syrian opposition, allowing the regime to maintain an upper hand using its airforce," a Syrian opposition member said.
Saudi Arabia did not hide its anger after US President Barack Obama stepped back from punitive strikes against Syria over a chemical attack in August on a rebel-held district near Damascus.
But for Faisal, the US-Saudi alliance, which dates back to a meeting aboard the USS Quincy in the Suez Canal in 1945 between the kingdom's founder King Ibn Saud and US president Franklin Roosevelt, "is not over."
Both leaders had at the time agreed that Washington would help secure the kingdom in exchange for oil, but circumstances have changed, with the United States expected to become the world's top oil producer in 2015.
"We had our differences in the past," Faisal told AFP. "And today we have differences on certain issues, but we agree on others."
