2007 Patriots Offense vs 2013 Broncos Offense

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  • VulcanRaven
    VulcanRaven Members Posts: 18,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LPast wrote: »
    Y'all are also forgetting the new rules that help out offenses. Denver is special but yards are up across the board.
    That's what I'm saying. All of a sudden 3 QBs in one year threw for over 5,000 yards previously, Manning just did it and Brees did it 3 times. It' the rules. That's why Mannings season was manufactured. The 2000 Ravens or that Bucs defense that won a SB would have terrorized the Broncos.
  • coop9889
    coop9889 Members Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2014
    2013 Broncos
    Always easy to say "woulda coulda shoulda" but that's a horrible argument.

    Who's to say if you take the 'greatest defenses of all time', put them in 2013, that they wouldn't give up 500 yards or 40+ points to a healthy Denver?

    Works both ways.
  • prime_time_willy
    prime_time_willy Members Posts: 948 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    Matt- wrote: »
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  • marc123
    marc123 Members Posts: 16,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    deemula420 wrote: »
    ? brady
  • prime_time_willy
    prime_time_willy Members Posts: 948 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    purpngold wrote: »
    den had that easy ass schedule, still very impressive though
    Didnt even think about that.


    The Pats went against 5 of the 10 best scoring defenses in 6 games (including the playoffs) and averaged 29.8 PPG.

    They also put up 52 on the #11 ranked Redskins D and 48 on the #13 ranked Cowboys D.

    The 2007 Patriots had a better overall team that helped score 589 points though, 56 of them were on defense. So in total without defensive td's they scored 533. Compared to 578 that the broncos had. It's really a close call either way.

    But GSOT>>>>

    Kurt Warner in 2000 had 3,429 yards passing but missed time and Trent Green threw 2,063 yards in 8 games he played. If Warner would've never got hurt we would've seen him smash Marino record.
  • bow to royalty
    bow to royalty Members Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    Broncos. They have more weapons. Welker, Thomas, Thomas, Decker. 5 players scored at least 10 touchdowns. Pats only had Moss hit double digits, even though he did beast with 23. A complete team is more impressive to me.
  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    purpngold wrote: »
    den had that easy ass schedule, still very impressive though
    Didnt even think about that.


    The Pats went against 5 of the 10 best scoring defenses in 6 games (including the playoffs) and averaged 29.8 PPG.

    They also put up 52 on the #11 ranked Redskins D and 48 on the #13 ranked Cowboys D.

    Lol Sometimes stats ruin what it means to b knowledgeable

    Bruh...unless u talkin top 5, maybe top 8,mentioning a defense's rank in an argument like this is pointless

    Im a Skins fan. I remember that game clearly.We didnt have a chance. idc what r rank was.

    And the Buffalo Bills have a top 10 defense this year. You wouldnt say 'Man Denver lit up Buffalo, so u know its real!'
  • S2J
    S2J Members Posts: 28,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    If u say Pats it has to be based on eye test, which is cool. But there is no stat to back it. The numbers all favor Denver
  • nj2089
    nj2089 Members Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    defenses are a lot worse now
  • bow to royalty
    bow to royalty Members Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    For everyone saying the defenses keep getting worse. I assume y'all are giving 04 Colts the nod over 07 Pats?
  • nj2089
    nj2089 Members Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    Patriots played the NFC east that year which was dominated with defense like the eagles cowboys and giants. Not to mention the ravens defenses and the Steelers defenses. They also played a colts team and San Diego when they were good
  • nj2089
    nj2089 Members Posts: 4,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    pats also had a tougher schedule
  • Shizlansky
    Shizlansky Members Posts: 35,095 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    Pats ran the score up on purpose

    Broncos offense just flows and then turn it down at the end of games.
  • bow to royalty
    bow to royalty Members Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    Welker and Moss caught 52% of Tom's passes, got about 55% of the Pats passing yards (40% of total offensive yards), and 62% of passing TD's ( 46% of the offensive TD's.)

    Thomas and Decker caught about 40% of Peyton's passes, got about 50% of the Broncos passing yards (37% of the total offensive yards), and 45% of passing touchdowns (35% of the offensive TD's.)

    The Broncos have the more complete offense. Take away Peyton's #1 he still had 5,000 yards and 41 TD's. Take away Moss, Brady had under 3,500 yards and 27 TD's. They both beasted, but the Broncos can ? you in more ways
  • Oneandonlyss67
    Oneandonlyss67 Members Posts: 7
    New England played against 8 top 10 defenses in 2007, Broncos only played against 2 this season
  • PanchoYoSancho
    PanchoYoSancho Members Posts: 13,177 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2013 Broncos
    purpngold wrote: »
    den had that easy ass schedule, still very impressive though
    Didnt even think about that.


    The Pats went against 5 of the 10 best scoring defenses in 6 games (including the playoffs) and averaged 29.8 PPG.

    They also put up 52 on the #11 ranked Redskins D and 48 on the #13 ranked Cowboys D.

    The 2007 Patriots had a better overall team that helped score 589 points though, 56 of them were on defense. So in total without defensive td's they scored 533. Compared to 578 that the broncos had. It's really a close call either way.

    But GSOT>>>>

    Kurt Warner in 2000 had 3,429 yards passing but missed time and Trent Green threw 2,063 yards in 8 games he played. If Warner would've never got hurt we would've seen him smash Marino record.
    My problem with the Rams is they were way too sloppy with the ball. They could've scored the most points ever, but turned the ball over like crazy. That knocks em down a notch.
  • John_Blazini
    John_Blazini Members Posts: 14,837 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    This years Broncos lost to the pats of 2013... Pats of 2007 prob would put a 100 up on this years Pats lol
  • MR.CJ
    MR.CJ Members Posts: 64,689 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PimpMVP wrote: »
    Most points scored in a season.. Broncos

    Most Td passes in a season.. Broncos

    Most wr with 10+ Td catches in a season... broncos with 4

    Highest point Average in a season. . Broncos

    ONLY TEAM TO SCORE 600 OR MORE POINTS TOTAL IN 1 SEASON... BRONCOS


    I'll just leave this here

    Its over
  • smittysmith
    smittysmith Members Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 pages and the discussion is dominated by whose offense was better. Ya'll realize their is 3 phases to football right?

    Pats by 10.
  • Heavy In The Game
    Heavy In The Game Members Posts: 3,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    2 pages and the discussion is dominated by whose offense was better. Ya'll realize their is 3 phases to football right?

    Pats by 10.

    read the title bruh
  • smittysmith
    smittysmith Members Posts: 8,202 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2 pages and the discussion is dominated by whose offense was better. Ya'll realize their is 3 phases to football right?

    Pats by 10.

    read the title bruh

    L. Pats still the correct answer.
  • vageneral08
    vageneral08 Members Posts: 19,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This years Broncos lost to the pats of 2013... Pats of 2007 prob would put a 100 up on this years Pats lol

    And who did the pats lose to in the playoffs this season?
  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • KINGOFDAARCADE
    KINGOFDAARCADE Members Posts: 4,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    2007 Patriots
    PimpMVP wrote: »
    Most points scored in a season.. Broncos

    Most Td passes in a season.. Broncos

    Most wr with 10+ Td catches in a season... broncos with 4

    Highest point Average in a season. . Broncos

    ONLY TEAM TO SCORE 600 OR MORE POINTS TOTAL IN 1 SEASON... BRONCOS


    I'll just leave this here

    Broncos had a soft schedule this year.

    Pats had a tough schedule that year. Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, Colts, Ravens, Chargers, Steelers... All very good teams that year.


    Plus DB's were still allowed to hit WR's back in 2007. Now they're barely allowed to do their job.