Iran’s ayatollah: Jihad will last until America is wiped out

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  • Chef_Taylor
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    zombie wrote: »
    You can ? with america politicaly economically but not when it comes to real physical war
    I forgot the nuke count but,its alot...all this talk about china,the u.s. could literally wipe all the countires named off the face of this earth.
  • Chef_Taylor
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    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    Foh with all this bible talk....if it came down to it and we had to defend our selves no other country can out arm the U.S. We have the strongest Air Force academy in the world.Those million man armies china and nk have would be tough but they'll eventually crumble.Its one thing to have the man-power but its another to have military power,arms power, intelligence and be able to control the air and seas.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    What you are trying to get the bible to say does not match reality. And makes no sense because for america which is a huge nation to be utterly destroyed it would take hundreads of nukes all our cities and bases would have to be destroyed. The use of that much atomic bombs would destroy the worldwide ecosystem. And cause nuclear winter.

    Babylon is mecca , practice wisdom study more than the bible and you will quickly see why america cannot be babylon. Also if you believe the bible is middle eastern centered you cannot be talking about the atlantic and pacific ocean, that makes no sense.

    1. What do you think ? means when He says that 1/3 of the sun is going to be struck, 1/3 of the moon is going to be struck, and 1/3 of the stars is going to be struck by darkness means? It's what we modern 21st century humans call nuclear winter!

    Light will be decreased by 1/3 when the judgments of the last days hit, which will be started by the total nuclear annihilation of America!


    Do you realize what the last days are and how terrible they will be? The Bible paints the picture but the words that are given don't even compare to the reality that will be unleashed on the planet in the last days!


    you are acting like the last days are some cake walk! No! ? says that the earth will be judged by fire and only a few men will be left!


    "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." Isaiah 24:6

    Read the whole chapter to get the context. And the context is the time of the end aka THE DAY OF THE LORD!!!!


    The day of the Lord is darkness and gloominess! It is a time of UTTER DESTRUCTION!!!!!

    All the kingdoms of the world will be judged!


    I hate posting excerpts of the scriptures, because I feel like even when I post single verses of scriptures they don't get read. But what the heck, the LORD will lead those who want to learn to the truth. So here goes an excerpt regarding the Day of the LORD.....(i actually excerpted the excerpt, because it actually begins at verse 7, but i'm starting it from verse 14) Amen.

    "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

    15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

    16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

    17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

    18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."
    Zephaniah 1:14-18


    The earth is going to be destroyed by fire! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how the fire will be started, which will be Nuclear weapons!


    America is going down in flames and if you are still here when the day of destruction comes, you will be consumed! That's your choice. But you've been warned. May the Lord preserve your spirit though for eternal glory on the day of redemption if you have truly trusted Christ as your Savior. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    T.Taylor wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    You can ? with america politicaly economically but not when it comes to real physical war
    I forgot the nuke count but,its alot...all this talk about china,the u.s. could literally wipe all the countires named off the face of this earth.

    No one is saying that America couldn't destroy those countries right now if it wanted to! ? even states that America is the "hammer of the whole earth" and that she "is the glory of all the kingdoms".


    But the destruction of America isn't a war! The destruction of America comes suddenly, without warning, and unexpectedly!

    Just like how 9/11 happened
    Just like how pearl harbor happened


    So to will the coming destruction happen, only this time it will destroy the whole nation and render it uninhabitable forever. Amen.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    T.Taylor wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    Foh with all this bible talk....if it came down to it and we had to defend our selves no other country can out arm the U.S. We have the strongest Air Force academy in the world.Those million man armies china and nk have would be tough but they'll eventually crumble.Its one thing to have the man-power but its another to have military power,arms power, intelligence and be able to control the air and seas.

    it's a sneak attack my friend. It's the only way to bring down Babylon the Great. Amen.
  • zombie
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    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    What you are trying to get the bible to say does not match reality. And makes no sense because for america which is a huge nation to be utterly destroyed it would take hundreads of nukes all our cities and bases would have to be destroyed. The use of that much atomic bombs would destroy the worldwide ecosystem. And cause nuclear winter.

    Babylon is mecca , practice wisdom study more than the bible and you will quickly see why america cannot be babylon. Also if you believe the bible is middle eastern centered you cannot be talking about the atlantic and pacific ocean, that makes no sense.

    1. What do you think ? means when He says that 1/3 of the sun is going to be struck, 1/3 of the moon is going to be struck, and 1/3 of the stars is going to be struck by darkness means? It's what we modern 21st century humans call nuclear winter!

    Light will be decreased by 1/3 when the judgments of the last days hit, which will be started by the total nuclear annihilation of America!


    Do you realize what the last days are and how terrible they will be? The Bible paints the picture but the words that are given don't even compare to the reality that will be unleashed on the planet in the last days!


    you are acting like the last days are some cake walk! No! ? says that the earth will be judged by fire and only a few men will be left!


    "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." Isaiah 24:6

    Read the whole chapter to get the context. And the context is the time of the end aka THE DAY OF THE LORD!!!!


    The day of the Lord is darkness and gloominess! It is a time of UTTER DESTRUCTION!!!!!

    All the kingdoms of the world will be judged!


    I hate posting excerpts of the scriptures, because I feel like even when I post single verses of scriptures they don't get read. But what the heck, the LORD will lead those who want to learn to the truth. So here goes an excerpt regarding the Day of the LORD.....(i actually excerpted the excerpt, because it actually begins at verse 7, but i'm starting it from verse 14) Amen.

    "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

    15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

    16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

    17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

    18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."
    Zephaniah 1:14-18


    The earth is going to be destroyed by fire! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how the fire will be started, which will be Nuclear weapons!


    America is going down in flames and if you are still here when the day of destruction comes, you will be consumed! That's your choice. But you've been warned. May the Lord preserve your spirit though for eternal glory on the day of redemption if you have truly trusted Christ as your Savior. Amen.

    If you read somthing else except the bible and look at a map then you would know that a nuclear winter caused by the utter destruction of america would block more than 1/3 of the light from the sun. A nuclear strike on a smaller nation would do that , but america is half a continent, think man the dust that would go up in the air would ? all life on earth not just america. There would be no one left.

    On the day of the lord many will die but there will still be life if america is destroyed the way you describe everything on earth will die except maybe deep water fish insects and worms. I really don't want to break down why biblically why what you believe is faulty because I already did in another thread and you never addressed it
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    What you are trying to get the bible to say does not match reality. And makes no sense because for america which is a huge nation to be utterly destroyed it would take hundreads of nukes all our cities and bases would have to be destroyed. The use of that much atomic bombs would destroy the worldwide ecosystem. And cause nuclear winter.

    Babylon is mecca , practice wisdom study more than the bible and you will quickly see why america cannot be babylon. Also if you believe the bible is middle eastern centered you cannot be talking about the atlantic and pacific ocean, that makes no sense.

    1. What do you think ? means when He says that 1/3 of the sun is going to be struck, 1/3 of the moon is going to be struck, and 1/3 of the stars is going to be struck by darkness means? It's what we modern 21st century humans call nuclear winter!

    Light will be decreased by 1/3 when the judgments of the last days hit, which will be started by the total nuclear annihilation of America!


    Do you realize what the last days are and how terrible they will be? The Bible paints the picture but the words that are given don't even compare to the reality that will be unleashed on the planet in the last days!


    you are acting like the last days are some cake walk! No! ? says that the earth will be judged by fire and only a few men will be left!


    "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." Isaiah 24:6

    Read the whole chapter to get the context. And the context is the time of the end aka THE DAY OF THE LORD!!!!


    The day of the Lord is darkness and gloominess! It is a time of UTTER DESTRUCTION!!!!!

    All the kingdoms of the world will be judged!


    I hate posting excerpts of the scriptures, because I feel like even when I post single verses of scriptures they don't get read. But what the heck, the LORD will lead those who want to learn to the truth. So here goes an excerpt regarding the Day of the LORD.....(i actually excerpted the excerpt, because it actually begins at verse 7, but i'm starting it from verse 14) Amen.

    "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

    15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

    16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

    17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

    18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."
    Zephaniah 1:14-18


    The earth is going to be destroyed by fire! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how the fire will be started, which will be Nuclear weapons!


    America is going down in flames and if you are still here when the day of destruction comes, you will be consumed! That's your choice. But you've been warned. May the Lord preserve your spirit though for eternal glory on the day of redemption if you have truly trusted Christ as your Savior. Amen.

    If you read somthing else except the bible and look at a map then you would know that a nuclear winter caused by the utter destruction of america would block more than 1/3 of the light from the sun. A nuclear strike on a smaller nation would do that , but america is half a continent, think man the dust that would go up in the air would ? all life on earth not just america. There would be no one left.

    On the day of the lord many will die but there will still be life if america is destroyed the way you describe everything on earth will die except maybe deep water fish insects and worms. I really don't want to break down why biblically why what you believe is faulty because I already did in another thread and you never addressed it

    I believe ? , not what scientist postulate about the effects of nuclear bombs going off.


    And if you actually read what Revelation tells us, it declares that the effects of the coming destruction of Babylon will be DEVASTATING. Read about the first four seals!

    War, famine, death, and martyrdom! ? states that 1/4 of the world will be killed because of the opening salvo of the Day of the LORD!


    The total nuclear annihilation of America is DEVASTATING! That is why famine comes, why war ensues (Gog and Magog), martyrdom (Christians blamed and singled out) is carried out, and how the antichrist comes to power!


    The day of the LORD concerns the whole planet and the whole planet will be judge catastrophically! Jesus emphatically declares that the time of the end will be like no other time in human history and if the days weren't cut short "NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED"

    I'm not proclaiming some pie in the sky, cup cake walk into the kingdom of heaven. The tribulation is a time of absolute Destruction and it is commenced with the total nuclear annihilation of Babylon the Great aka America!

    The 70 years are almost up. And I will be making a thread here shortly that details this fact, which will shed more light into how close we truly are to the consummation of all things! Amen.
  • dalyricalbandit
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    DoU u a cool cat but u be taking them scriptures like everything they say will happen word for word.

    the second we get hit if we ever get hit by a nuke best believe we flinging 3 back on some ya really want us to end this ? cause we can let off another 5 if thats what ya want to do.


    with that said be good my G
  • zombie
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    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    What you are trying to get the bible to say does not match reality. And makes no sense because for america which is a huge nation to be utterly destroyed it would take hundreads of nukes all our cities and bases would have to be destroyed. The use of that much atomic bombs would destroy the worldwide ecosystem. And cause nuclear winter.

    Babylon is mecca , practice wisdom study more than the bible and you will quickly see why america cannot be babylon. Also if you believe the bible is middle eastern centered you cannot be talking about the atlantic and pacific ocean, that makes no sense.

    1. What do you think ? means when He says that 1/3 of the sun is going to be struck, 1/3 of the moon is going to be struck, and 1/3 of the stars is going to be struck by darkness means? It's what we modern 21st century humans call nuclear winter!

    Light will be decreased by 1/3 when the judgments of the last days hit, which will be started by the total nuclear annihilation of America!


    Do you realize what the last days are and how terrible they will be? The Bible paints the picture but the words that are given don't even compare to the reality that will be unleashed on the planet in the last days!


    you are acting like the last days are some cake walk! No! ? says that the earth will be judged by fire and only a few men will be left!


    "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left." Isaiah 24:6

    Read the whole chapter to get the context. And the context is the time of the end aka THE DAY OF THE LORD!!!!


    The day of the Lord is darkness and gloominess! It is a time of UTTER DESTRUCTION!!!!!

    All the kingdoms of the world will be judged!


    I hate posting excerpts of the scriptures, because I feel like even when I post single verses of scriptures they don't get read. But what the heck, the LORD will lead those who want to learn to the truth. So here goes an excerpt regarding the Day of the LORD.....(i actually excerpted the excerpt, because it actually begins at verse 7, but i'm starting it from verse 14) Amen.

    "The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

    15That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

    16A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

    17And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

    18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."
    Zephaniah 1:14-18


    The earth is going to be destroyed by fire! And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how the fire will be started, which will be Nuclear weapons!


    America is going down in flames and if you are still here when the day of destruction comes, you will be consumed! That's your choice. But you've been warned. May the Lord preserve your spirit though for eternal glory on the day of redemption if you have truly trusted Christ as your Savior. Amen.

    If you read somthing else except the bible and look at a map then you would know that a nuclear winter caused by the utter destruction of america would block more than 1/3 of the light from the sun. A nuclear strike on a smaller nation would do that , but america is half a continent, think man the dust that would go up in the air would ? all life on earth not just america. There would be no one left.

    On the day of the lord many will die but there will still be life if america is destroyed the way you describe everything on earth will die except maybe deep water fish insects and worms. I really don't want to break down why biblically why what you believe is faulty because I already did in another thread and you never addressed it

    I believe ? , not what scientist postulate about the effects of nuclear bombs going off.


    And if you actually read what Revelation tells us, it declares that the effects of the coming destruction of Babylon will be DEVASTATING. Read about the first four seals!

    War, famine, death, and martyrdom! ? states that 1/4 of the world will be killed because of the opening salvo of the Day of the LORD!


    The total nuclear annihilation of America is DEVASTATING! That is why famine comes, why war ensues (Gog and Magog), martyrdom (Christians blamed and singled out) is carried out, and how the antichrist comes to power!


    The day of the LORD concerns the whole planet and the whole planet will be judge catastrophically! Jesus emphatically declares that the time of the end will be like no other time in human history and if the days weren't cut short "NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED"

    I'm not proclaiming some pie in the sky, cup cake walk into the kingdom of heaven. The tribulation is a time of absolute Destruction and it is commenced with the total nuclear annihilation of Babylon the Great aka America!

    The 70 years are almost up. And I will be making a thread here shortly that details this fact, which will shed more light into how close we truly are to the consummation of all things! Amen.

    The destruction of babyloon and the amount of suffering it will cause I have no problem with it's the identifing of america as being babylon that is not backed up by scripture that I have a problem with. the whole babylon is america thing only comes from american christians your study of eschatology is american/western based which is why you come to these crazy conculsions.

  • zombie
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    T.Taylor wrote: »
    zombie wrote: »
    If america was destroyed in one day by nuclear weapons it would be the end of mankind because the nuclear fallout would spread around the earth and ? everything. And that's not counting the damage that our nuclear subs would do in revenge.

    No it wouldn't be.


    "The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night."
    Revelation 8:12


    That is the result. Life will still continue. And like the Bible teaches, the end times will be focused in the Middle East. The new world is separated by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. Vast bodies of water on both sides of America separate it from where all the action will be taking place.

    That is why when you read in Revelation 18, you see that the reaction of the destruction of Babylon the Great comes from the ships in the sea! You have to put 2 and 2 together! Ships in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf of Mexico will see the destruction of America from afar off and weep, wail, and howl because of what is taking place!

    "for in one hour such great wealth has been laid waste!' And every shipmaster and every passenger and sailor, and as many as make their living by the sea, stood at a distance, and were crying out as they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, 'What city is like the great city?' "And they threw dust on their heads and were crying out, weeping and mourning, saying, 'Woe, woe, the great city, in which all who had ships at sea became rich by her wealth, for in one hour she has been laid waste!'" Revelation 18:17-19



    Yes let ? be true and all men liars. Amen.

    Foh with all this bible talk....if it came down to it and we had to defend our selves no other country can out arm the U.S. We have the strongest Air Force academy in the world.Those million man armies china and nk have would be tough but they'll eventually crumble.Its one thing to have the man-power but its another to have military power,arms power, intelligence and be able to control the air and seas.

    it's a sneak attack my friend. It's the only way to bring down Babylon the Great. Amen.

    Yeah but babylon is not america it is mecca and it will be destroyed by iran.
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    North Korea is weak true, but they still have a very powerful military, one million strong.
    i believe Chuck D would advise you "don't believe the hype"
    zombie wrote: »
    the only reason the world puts up with nk is because a war would destablize the region.
    ding ding ding

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    janklow wrote: »
    North Korea is weak true, but they still have a very powerful military, one million strong.
    i believe Chuck D would advise you "don't believe the hype"
    zombie wrote: »
    the only reason the world puts up with nk is because a war would destablize the region.
    ding ding ding

    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving. Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now. They're also very tight with Iran and China too, so a war would cause lots of problems for America (just like the old Korean war)
  • zombie
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    janklow wrote: »
    North Korea is weak true, but they still have a very powerful military, one million strong.
    i believe Chuck D would advise you "don't believe the hype"
    zombie wrote: »
    the only reason the world puts up with nk is because a war would destablize the region.
    ding ding ding

    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving. Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now. They're also very tight with Iran and China too, so a war would cause lots of problems for America (just like the old Korean war)

    Dog nk does not have a strong army at all it's 2014 not the 50's and even back then they would have lost without china. Today nk can hardly even feed it's army and it's weapons become more inferior every year,, Is china going to care about nk today?? No they just don't want the. Refugees rushing their borders.
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    DoU u a cool cat but u be taking them scriptures like everything they say will happen word for word.

    the second we get hit if we ever get hit by a nuke best believe we flinging 3 back on some ya really want us to end this ? cause we can let off another 5 if thats what ya want to do.


    with that said be good my G

    When the destruction comes it will be more than just 1 nuke. It will be hundreds of nukes if not thousands. They will all rain down on every major city, every military instillation, and every other valuable asset that America has. The whole land will be laid utterly waste in 1 hour because of the destroying wind that ? is sending to destroy everything inside of Babylon. Amen.

    And there will be no retaliation. ? says that all of Babylons bows will be broken! There will be no counter strike because Babylon will be utterly destroyed in 1 hour by fire! Amen.
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    DoU u a cool cat but u be taking them scriptures like everything they say will happen word for word.

    the second we get hit if we ever get hit by a nuke best believe we flinging 3 back on some ya really want us to end this ? cause we can let off another 5 if thats what ya want to do.


    with that said be good my G

    When the destruction comes it will be more than just 1 nuke. It will be hundreds of nukes if not thousands. They will all rain down on every major city, every military instillation, and every other valuable asset that America has. The whole land will be laid utterly waste in 1 hour because of the destroying wind that ? is sending to destroy everything inside of Babylon. Amen.

    And there will be no retaliation. ? says that all of Babylons bows will be broken! There will be no counter strike because Babylon will be utterly destroyed in 1 hour by fire! Amen.

    The usa is not babylon and china is not mentioned in the bible
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    Y'all allowed y'all selves to be trolled...
  • kingblaze84
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    zombie wrote: »
    janklow wrote: »
    North Korea is weak true, but they still have a very powerful military, one million strong.
    i believe Chuck D would advise you "don't believe the hype"
    zombie wrote: »
    the only reason the world puts up with nk is because a war would destablize the region.
    ding ding ding

    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving. Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now. They're also very tight with Iran and China too, so a war would cause lots of problems for America (just like the old Korean war)

    Dog nk does not have a strong army at all it's 2014 not the 50's and even back then they would have lost without china. Today nk can hardly even feed it's army and it's weapons become more inferior every year,, Is china going to care about nk today?? No they just don't want the. Refugees rushing their borders.

    You could be right but some magazines I've read say North Korea's army is large and has very dangerous weapons. South Korea generals have admitted NK weapons could strike as far as the capital of South Korea, which has Asia's 4th largest economy. They maintain a strong guerilla warfare machine from generals who either fought under the NK generals of the 50s or were trained by them. That's enough to make a war on NK expensive.

    I do believe a refugee crisis is one reason South Korea doesn't war with NK now, but I'll post an article that shows why NK is still seen by as a threat....you remember when NK bombed out SK boats in 2010, killing 4 people? What a coincidence SK didn't strike back lol.....they know NK is nothing to play with, even with old weapons. The Taliban have proven you don't need fancy weapons to win a war....
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/how-strong-is-north-koreas-military-capabilities_n_3153691.html

    How Strong Is North Korea's Military? A Look At The Country's Capabilities


    ARTILLERY

    North Korea provided a chilling reminder of what its artillery is capable of when it showered a front-line South Korean island with shells, killing four people in November 2010 and underscoring the threat that its artillery troops pose at the disputed sea border.

    South Korea says North Korea has more than 13,000 artillery guns, and its long-range batteries are capable of hitting the capital Seoul, a city of more than 10 million people just 30 miles (50 kilometers) from the border.

    "North Korea's greatest advantage is that its artillery could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital," Mark Fitzpatrick, a former U.S. State Department official now with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said in an email.

    South Korea's defense minister estimates that 70 percent of North Korean artillery batteries along the border could be "neutralized" in five days if war broke out. But Sohn Yong-woo, a professor at the Graduate School of National Defense Strategy of Hannam University in South Korea, said that would be too late to prevent millions of civilian casualties and avert a disastrous blow to Asia's fourth-largest economy.


    North Korea could try to compensate for its lack of effective equipment with sheer manpower. North Korea, a country of about 25 million, has an estimated 7.7 million reserves.

    --7.7 MILLION RESERVES MY ? . NK would lose any war eventually I think, but again, they can cause TONS of damage, South Koreans have publicly admitted this.
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/how-strong-is-north-koreas-military-capabilities_n_3153691.html

    How Strong Is North Korea's Military? A Look At The Country's Capabilities


    ARTILLERY

    North Korea provided a chilling reminder of what its artillery is capable of when it showered a front-line South Korean island with shells, killing four people in November 2010 and underscoring the threat that its artillery troops pose at the disputed sea border.

    South Korea says North Korea has more than 13,000 artillery guns, and its long-range batteries are capable of hitting the capital Seoul, a city of more than 10 million people just 30 miles (50 kilometers) from the border.

    "North Korea's greatest advantage is that its artillery could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital," Mark Fitzpatrick, a former U.S. State Department official now with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said in an email.

    South Korea's defense minister estimates that 70 percent of North Korean artillery batteries along the border could be "neutralized" in five days if war broke out. But Sohn Yong-woo, a professor at the Graduate School of National Defense Strategy of Hannam University in South Korea, said that would be too late to prevent millions of civilian casualties and avert a disastrous blow to Asia's fourth-largest economy.


    North Korea could try to compensate for its lack of effective equipment with sheer manpower. North Korea, a country of about 25 million, has an estimated 7.7 million reserves.

    --7.7 MILLION RESERVES MY ? . NK would lose any war eventually I think, but again, they can cause TONS of damage, South Koreans have publicly admitted this.

    Nk has a large army and that is it's weakness because they would have to feed and supply all those people which they cannot do nk only card it has to play is it's geographical location it's too close to south korea and japan. If sk ever decides to say ? it and risk the civillian death count nk would crumble quick.

    Nk is nothing more than a pain in the ass at this point. They are not too be feared especially by america.
  • zombie
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    zombie wrote: »
    janklow wrote: »
    North Korea is weak true, but they still have a very powerful military, one million strong.
    i believe Chuck D would advise you "don't believe the hype"
    zombie wrote: »
    the only reason the world puts up with nk is because a war would destablize the region.
    ding ding ding

    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving. Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now. They're also very tight with Iran and China too, so a war would cause lots of problems for America (just like the old Korean war)

    Dog nk does not have a strong army at all it's 2014 not the 50's and even back then they would have lost without china. Today nk can hardly even feed it's army and it's weapons become more inferior every year,, Is china going to care about nk today?? No they just don't want the. Refugees rushing their borders.

    You could be right but some magazines I've read say North Korea's army is large and has very dangerous weapons. South Korea generals have admitted NK weapons could strike as far as the capital of South Korea, which has Asia's 4th largest economy. They maintain a strong guerilla warfare machine from generals who either fought under the NK generals of the 50s or were trained by them. That's enough to make a war on NK expensive.

    I do believe a refugee crisis is one reason South Korea doesn't war with NK now, but I'll post an article that shows why NK is still seen by as a threat....you remember when NK bombed out SK boats in 2010, killing 4 people? What a coincidence SK didn't strike back lol.....they know NK is nothing to play with, even with old weapons. The Taliban have proven you don't need fancy weapons to win a war....

    The taliban is nothing like nk and the taliban has help from the local populations and pakistan
  • kingblaze84
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    zombie wrote: »
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/25/how-strong-is-north-koreas-military-capabilities_n_3153691.html

    How Strong Is North Korea's Military? A Look At The Country's Capabilities


    ARTILLERY

    North Korea provided a chilling reminder of what its artillery is capable of when it showered a front-line South Korean island with shells, killing four people in November 2010 and underscoring the threat that its artillery troops pose at the disputed sea border.

    South Korea says North Korea has more than 13,000 artillery guns, and its long-range batteries are capable of hitting the capital Seoul, a city of more than 10 million people just 30 miles (50 kilometers) from the border.

    "North Korea's greatest advantage is that its artillery could initially deliver a heavy bombardment on the South Korean capital," Mark Fitzpatrick, a former U.S. State Department official now with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, said in an email.

    South Korea's defense minister estimates that 70 percent of North Korean artillery batteries along the border could be "neutralized" in five days if war broke out. But Sohn Yong-woo, a professor at the Graduate School of National Defense Strategy of Hannam University in South Korea, said that would be too late to prevent millions of civilian casualties and avert a disastrous blow to Asia's fourth-largest economy.


    North Korea could try to compensate for its lack of effective equipment with sheer manpower. North Korea, a country of about 25 million, has an estimated 7.7 million reserves.

    --7.7 MILLION RESERVES MY ? . NK would lose any war eventually I think, but again, they can cause TONS of damage, South Koreans have publicly admitted this.

    Nk has a large army and that is it's weakness because they would have to feed and supply all those people which they cannot do nk only card it has to play is it's geographical location it's too close to south korea and japan. If sk ever decides to say ? it and risk the civillian death count nk would crumble quick.

    Nk is nothing more than a pain in the ass at this point. They are not too be feared especially by america.

    Yeah NK would lose any eventual war, American airpower with SK forces would be too much for NK to handle. But SK knows better then to try anything reckless with NK. I can't say the same with NK though, they don't give a ? . We all remember when NK media called Obama a monkey who can't do anything to hurt NK, they basically were daring America and SK to do something. NK, more then any nation aside from America, is always ready for a war. They've killed more than 20 South Koreans since the last official fighting in the 50s, and NK still acts provocative.

    America doesn't fear NK but any war against them would be extremely expensive and so not worth it.
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    When the destruction comes it will be more than just 1 nuke. It will be hundreds of nukes if not thousands. They will all rain down on every major city, every military instillation, and every other valuable asset that America has. The whole land will be laid utterly waste in 1 hour because of the destroying wind that ? is sending to destroy everything inside of Babylon. Amen.

    And there will be no retaliation. ? says that all of Babylons bows will be broken! There will be no counter strike because Babylon will be utterly destroyed in 1 hour by fire! Amen.

    u do know that no country would be dumb enough to let off so many nukes right that many nukes would cause so many quakes basically ending the world
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    When the destruction comes it will be more than just 1 nuke. It will be hundreds of nukes if not thousands. They will all rain down on every major city, every military instillation, and every other valuable asset that America has. The whole land will be laid utterly waste in 1 hour because of the destroying wind that ? is sending to destroy everything inside of Babylon. Amen.

    And there will be no retaliation. ? says that all of Babylons bows will be broken! There will be no counter strike because Babylon will be utterly destroyed in 1 hour by fire! Amen.

    u do know that no country would be dumb enough to let off so many nukes right that many nukes would cause so many quakes basically ending the world

    Well the prophecy tells us that the whole world will shake when Babylon is Utterly Obliterated in 1 day in 1 hour.

    "At the sound of Babylon's conquest the earth will quake; a cry will be heard among the nations."
    Jeremiah 50:46

    And life will still go on. But life will never be the same after the destruction happens. We will officially be in the last days! And Jesus said if He didn't cut the days short, no flesh would survive!

    The time of the end is going to be terrible! Absolutely terrible! It will be like no other time in human history! It's the end! ? have mercy!
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    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving.
    i believe the point that i (and others) are trying to make is that NK doesn't have as powerful a military as you're giving them credit for.
    Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now.
    uh... you might want to read up on the Korean War again, because despite a solid start in June, the US had beaten the ? out of NK by October. and then we spent the rest of the war fighting China.
    --7.7 MILLION RESERVES MY ?
    because of the way the government runs the country, they can throw around big number like that without it really meaning anything
    there's 25 million people in NK; if 30% of the country is the reserves, i think it says something about the quality of those reserves.
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    janklow wrote: »
    All that proves my point. A war with North Korea would destabilize the region because not only would powerful weapons be used, but South Korea would be under serious threat too. Only a strong military could take on South Korea, and North Korea has that, even if many of their soldiers are starving.
    i believe the point that i (and others) are trying to make is that NK doesn't have as powerful a military as you're giving them credit for.
    Don't forget that communist (North) Korea didn't lose the Korean War, it was a tie, even with all the weaponry America had then and now.
    uh... you might want to read up on the Korean War again, because despite a solid start in June, the US had beaten the ? out of NK by October. and then we spent the rest of the war fighting China.
    --7.7 MILLION RESERVES MY ?
    because of the way the government runs the country, they can throw around big number like that without it really meaning anything
    there's 25 million people in NK; if 30% of the country is the reserves, i think it says something about the quality of those reserves.

    NK doesn't have a great military but it is still a large one with massive weaponry, SK has admitted this. Those reserves may be weak and starving but I'm sure they're well trained in guerilla warfare, as NK generals in the country have studied the tactics of NK generals back in the Korean War. America would win any war against NK and so would SK for that matter, but my main point is that NK is not a push over, especially if that security alliance is signed btw China, Russia, Iran and NK