It's easy to disprove Christianity but can you disprove Islam?

dr funky resurrected
dr funky resurrected Members Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭
edited June 2014 in The Social Lounge
Just looking for some dialogue on this before the mods move it to race and religion and it dies like backstreet boys career...
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  • dr funky resurrected
    dr funky resurrected Members Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Christianity and Muslim are different children of the same father. You disprove one, you disprove the other.

    What's interesting though is that it seems to be that the biggest difference is that Muslims and Islam heavily relies and is based on the argument that none of their teachings can be disproved.

    While is Christianity is seemingly based off game of thrones

  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Christianity and Muslim are different children of the same father. You disprove one, you disprove the other.

    What's interesting though is that it seems to be that the biggest difference is that Muslims and Islam heavily relies and is based on the argument that none of their teachings can be disproved.

    While is Christianity is seemingly based off game of thrones

    Christianity has always relied on that same argument. Christianity and Islam are two siblings constantly fighting each other for superiority, all to gain approval from their father. Both religions are ridiculous in their own right, anyway.
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    Why would you want to?

    In a perfect world, all religion is disproved
  • dr funky resurrected
    dr funky resurrected Members Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭
    Why would you want to?

    Because its better to know the truth than to trust in a diety that doesn't exist. Especially when most of the worlds history has been created over religion.
  • dr funky resurrected
    dr funky resurrected Members Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭
    JokerKing wrote: »
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Christianity and Muslim are different children of the same father. You disprove one, you disprove the other.

    What's interesting though is that it seems to be that the biggest difference is that Muslims and Islam heavily relies and is based on the argument that none of their teachings can be disproved.

    While is Christianity is seemingly based off game of thrones

    Christianity has always relied on that same argument. Christianity and Islam are two siblings constantly fighting each other for superiority, all to gain approval from their father. Both religions are ridiculous in their own right, anyway.

    I also forgot Judaism as well
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    Why would you want to?

    Because its better to know the truth than to trust in a diety that doesn't exist. Especially when most of the worlds history has been created over religion.

    Just curious, why do you think Christianity is easy to be disproved but Islam is not?
  • dr funky resurrected
    dr funky resurrected Members Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭✭
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Why would you want to?

    In a perfect world, all religion is disproved

    Can one disprove the belief of Allah? The all? The universal creator?

    Disprove belief? No I'm talking about disproving existence. Belief exists. But the thing people believe in does not.

    I used to believe the Bills might one day win the Super Bowl. Can't base your life on something that isn't real man.
  • Busta Carmichael
    Busta Carmichael Members, Moderators Posts: 13,161 Regulator
    Backstreet boys career is well and alive cuz
  • Trollio
    Trollio Members Posts: 25,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    its the ying to ajacksons yang

    the white guy who wants to be black while ajckson is the black guy who wants to be white
  • Idiopathic Joker
    Idiopathic Joker Members, Moderators Posts: 45,691 Regulator
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Why would you want to?

    Because its better to know the truth than to trust in a diety that doesn't exist. Especially when most of the worlds history has been created over religion.

    Just curious, why do you think Christianity is easy to be disproved but Islam is not?

  • kzzl
    kzzl Members Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Christianity and Muslim are different children of the same father. You disprove one, you disprove the other.

    What's interesting though is that it seems to be that the biggest difference is that Muslims and Islam heavily relies and is based on the argument that none of their teachings can be disproved.

    While is Christianity is seemingly based off game of thrones

    LOL...

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  • Will Munny
    Will Munny Members Posts: 30,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those ISIS dude are some scary ass dudes.
  • The Iconoclast
    The Iconoclast Members Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wait...what?

    OP, I don't get why you're implying that Islam is more infallible. From atheist and some agnostics' perspectives, it's cut from the same cloth as Christianity and one could use the exact same logic one uses to debunk Christianity, just re-word it a bit differently.

    Which is why is always funny when Christians or Jews fueled by Islamophobia, attempt to invalidate Islam by using a logically sound argument, but will refrain from applying that line of thinking in a discussion about their religion.

    Muslims are like that too, I vividly remember on an old forum I use to go on, how some Muslims would bash Jews (sometimes Christians as well, but not nearly as much as they did the Jews) and actively attempt disprove them and render Judaism a farce. Then proceed to deliberately avoid (more than all the other followers of a religion) any topic atheists or agnostics used to discuss religion and its oppressive effects, even if you called them out.
  • soul rattler
    soul rattler Members Posts: 18,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    JokerKing wrote: »
    Christianity and Muslim are different children of the same father. You disprove one, you disprove the other.
    Pretty much.

    And the fact that Islam is the younger of the two religions makes disproving it even easier.
  • Mr.LV
    Mr.LV Members Posts: 14,089 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will Munny wrote: »
    Those ISIS dude are some scary ass dudes.

    You know they are scary ? when they got kicked out of al-qaeda!
  • CracceR
    CracceR Members Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭✭✭
    just need to disprove judaism and then all 3 of them are fucced
  • Karl.
    Karl. Members Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you can't prove it or give logical theory that it exists there is no reason to disprove.

  • damobb2deep
    damobb2deep Members Posts: 19,972 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smh... this ? is getting old...
  • REV_RAGE
    REV_RAGE Members Posts: 675 ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2014
    In a few words and with no real explanation other than my take, Muslims and Christians are disgruntle "Jews". Unsatisfied with doctrine they paved their way with their own prophet "like we can really trust the word of any. It's just "Blind Faith" which most also hold dear and cling to, and this is where we get "Holy Wars" from. All IMO because religion and hard facts often do not agree.

    Before anyone calls me out on the "disgruntle Jews" statement, let's not split hairs, they practice most of the same laws towards the basic things in life and are descendants of Abraham, and your upbringing makes you who you are.
  • IgnorantSole
    IgnorantSole Members Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Will Munny wrote: »
    Those ISIL dude are some scary ass dudes.

    fixed that for you, but yeah it's getting interesting here
  • blackamerica
    blackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait. Someone disproved Christianity? Lmao. Y'all lost athiest ? will disown all religion just to justify you not having a belief system
  • IgnorantSole
    IgnorantSole Members Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the question is not how to disprove a religion... but what happens when you pass over and chose the wrong religion?

    the possibility of dying and getting denied by obi wan at the gate cause i didn't believe in the force?

    now that's ether
  • blackamerica
    blackamerica Members Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wait. Someone disproved Christianity? Lmao. Y'all lost athiest ? will disown all religion just to justify you not having a belief system. Jesus could return himself tomorrow and you'd still be in denial
  • Rubato Garcia
    Rubato Garcia Members Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 2014
    Wait. Someone disproved Christianity? Lmao. Y'all lost athiest ? will disown all religion just to justify you not having a belief system. Jesus could return himself tomorrow and you'd still be in denial

    Jesus been back. I see him just about everywhere I go.





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