How do you truly feel about monogamy? Is it your true preference?
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Self control is a virtuous trait. @obnoxiouslyfresh said what I came on here to say.
True love basically the mastery of self restraint. We are carnal, and sex is good. If you are willing and capable of denying your own selfish lusts for your partner, despite their faults, better lock that down.
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I'm all for monogamy. .. it's natural for me *shrugs*
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Shizlansky wrote: »it just takes discipline...
just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....
one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...
and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not
only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......
something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....
while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship
Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.
Animals don't ? for fun.
plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time
domestic house cats are notorious for this ? -
Shizlansky wrote: »it just takes discipline...
just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....
one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...
and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not
only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......
something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....
while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship
Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.
Animals don't ? for fun.
plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time
domestic house cats are notorious for this ?
My ? cat leaves rats and other small animals at his doorstep.
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monogamy is easy for me and is my preferred life style and is better for society.with that beings said prostitution should be legal
With all due respect, the bolded is debatable. I wish there was a way to quantify it though.
It also brings up another interesting topic:
People subconsciously associate monogamy as key element of humanity. So we even dehumanize anyone who is openly non-monogamous even if they refrain from violating established trust.
Which explains this forum's negative visceral reaction to @hoesarefun . Personally I can respect someone like that who has the decency to let his significant others know upfront that he isn't monogamous.
Agreed fam.Osirus_Jenkins wrote: »? monogamy. Although I am an advocate for doing whatever the ? you want as long as It doesn't hurt kids.
Any form of relationship that doesn't violate established trust, cares about respecting all parties involved and prioritizes raising children and caring for their well-being. Is a good, healthy relationship imo. Who am I to judge?
The common misconception about non-monogamous relationships is that they can't possibly be rooted in trust and respect.obnoxiouslyfresh wrote: »Just do what works for you. Sure, it's not natural, which is why it's considered a virtue in the first place. If it were easy, there would be no reason to commend the efforts of DoYouWanttoGotoHeaven as some praiseworthy feat. It's difficult and not natural, but the human story is one in which we have risen above our animal instincts, learned to control our more basal desires in order to have the mindspace for higher concepts. Like flying without wings....
Well said, ObnoxFresh. I couldn't have said it better. GOAT. -
damobb2deep wrote: »I'm all for monogamy. .. it's natural for me *shrugs*
? do you actually shrug in your everyday conversations? -
have you ? ever heard about my gripe with raccoons?
a family murdered a ladies entire chicken farm...30 birds....didn't eat one.....chickens...no threat presented -
The ? 's a sacrifice, it's not about self control because if you were naturally monogamous you wouldn't have to keep it under control.
At very least the illusion of monogamy is important for the kids sake they need to know you puttin the fam first. It aint for me but I keep in mind theres a time and a place, priorities ? . -
polygamy will create lots of problems in our current highly sophisticated society . just look at the suffering child and divorce laws create in monogamous society. you can multiply that by
ten under polygamist society. -
polygamy will create lots of problems in our current highly sophisticated society . just look at the suffering child and divorce laws create in monogamous society. you can multiply that by
ten under polygamist society.
I posit that it may have the opposite effect. Let's not act like it hasn't happened in highly sophisticated societies before. -
if I have three wives if one wants a divorce are the other two liable to pay her support. and if not why?? technically their assets can be considered also mine
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monogamy is my preference.
Do what works for you.
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Actually, unfortunately animals do ? for the sake of killing just like humans do. @DWO is right on that account.Shizlansky wrote: »it just takes discipline...
just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....
one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...
and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not
only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......
something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....
while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship
Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.
Animals don't ? for fun.
Google the term "surplus killing".
One could easily argue that murder is natural. -
polygamy will create lots of problems in our current highly sophisticated society . just look at the suffering child and divorce laws create in monogamous society. you can multiply that by
ten under polygamist society.
I posit that it may have the opposite effect. Let's not act like it hasn't happened in highly sophisticated societies before.
I can't think of any, so list them if you can. keep in mind women are no longer property -
lot of sissies in here! hahaha
? in here talkin about "self control" knowin damn well its their "seif" bein controlled. lol & smh -
have you ? ever heard about my gripe with raccoons?
'? you never expected to hear/read in your life' -
Whether it's natural or not is irrelevant.
Different societies have different ideas of sexuality and relationships. Usually their concepts of family and society dictate what kind of relationships they have.
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if I have three wives if one wants a divorce are the other two liable to pay her support. and if not why?? technically their assets can be considered also mine
Maybe but, she's married to you not them other 2 ? . But the second part does raise further questions. What about the other 3 husbands the other 2 chicks may have. Would half of their ? go to the ? that wants the divorce; resulting in the ultimate come up? -
@Zombie we can discuss that later...let's stay on topic....
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also under polygamy if unrestricted the rich men will grab up all the women leaving an angry and frustrated young male population. there are just too many potential problems with widespread and legal polygamy. for it to work without us going back to a simpler lifestyle. modern society would have to change drastically
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I grew up in a two parent household so all throughout my life an example of monogamy was shown to me. I'm up for a polygamous relation ship with two or three women if they all know about each other and theres a few rules laid down. I'm not down for cheating. that's too much energy involved with all that running around lying and keeping secrets.
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Osirus_Jenkins wrote: »also under polygamy if unrestricted the rich men will grab up all the women leaving an angry and frustrated young male population. there are just too many potential problems with widespread and legal polygamy. for it to work without us going back to a simpler lifestyle. modern society would have to change drastically
? the broke ? . Tell them to get they money up
? you are poor, -
also today women can stand on their own so if polygamy is made legal , they are going to want multiple husbands. how many of you want to be husband #3 ?
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Shizlansky wrote: »it just takes discipline...
just like you can control you rage, you can control your ? ....
one could argue that murder is natural....it certainly takes place normally in the animal kingdom....but part of conforming to society is to resit your urge to rage out violently anytime you feel like it...
and while most people chose to resist that urge, most of us personally know a few folk who chose not to.....some walking the streets, some not
only difference is violence is punishable by law...which is why we find ? like boxing, and mma, and other forms of controlled violence almost as appealing as we find watching ? like porn......
something about those extreme urges that peaks our interest.....
while there are many people argue that monogamy isn't natural it's still a choice.....and people make choices on the most favorable outcome.....people who choose to be monogamous do so because they feel that is the best way to accomplish their desired goals in a relatinoship
Animals ? other animals for food 90% of the time.
Animals don't ? for fun.
plenty of animals ? for fun.....all the damn time
domestic house cats are notorious for this ?
You said plenty of animals but only gave one example
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also what about ? marriage you guys really cool with groups
of men being married to each other. what happens when they adopt children and divorce.
