N.Y. State Police Report Describes Black Suspect As ‘? ’ In Report

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N.Y. State Police Report Describes Black Suspect As ‘? ’ In Report


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Jul 31, 2014 By NewsOne Staff
Why did a Lockport, New York police department describe a Black shooting suspect as “? ?”
Shamir Allen, 19, was identified as such in a police form that asked officers to list his “complexion.” Local news station WGRZ-TV questioned the police department to determine why they’ve chosen not to retire the outdated, segregation-era description.

Police Chief Larry Eggert, a 34-year vet, says he does not think the racial description is offensive and told the news outlet that he was unaware of all the societal negativity that the word “? ” carries with it.
“If it bothers people that much we’re going to take it out, it’s not used as an inflammatory word, as a racially divisive term, it isn’t any of that, it was in the drop down menu that a well-meaning officer picked because he thought that’s what the person looked like,” said Eggert.

In fact, Eggert defends the use of the ethnic description by stating that his officers use the terms “light” and “dark ? ” to describe suspects but that use of the term is not written in a departmental policy.

Back in 1994, the Lockport police department installed a computer software system that asks for the description of a suspect’s complexion. When officers are filling out their reports and arrive at the complexion line, there are 12 descriptions to chose from including light, medium, dark, light and dark ? .
Eggert assured WGRZ-TV, however, that the word “? ” will be erased from the department’s database this week. The department will also require that officers attend diversity training courses over a two-week period, in order to fully comprehend, why the word “? ” was dropped out of favor.

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  • Melanin_Enriched
    Melanin_Enriched Members Posts: 22,868 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Light Negroes are best Negroes.
  • dr funky resurrected
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  • Darth Sidious
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    That is factually correct.
  • A Talented One
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    I don't know what their intention was but there is nothing necessarily wrong with '? .'

    We (including leading freedom fighters) called ourselves that for centuries.
  • The_Jackal
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    What's wrong with ? . Like it better then just black.
  • huey
    huey Members Posts: 11,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    well..he felt like using spanish i guess
  • A Talented One
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  • Shizlansky
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    What's wrong with ? . Like it better then just black.

    It means black.
  • The_Jackal
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    What's wrong with ? . Like it better then just black.

    It means black.

    That's what I'm saying. There's actual history of people using ? in a non discrimination way. And it just sound better to me then just saying a person is black. ? American is better to me then just African America since most people don't even connect with their African roots. I know I dont.
  • JDSTAYWITIT
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    It's an antiquated term ...nobody uses ? "? " to describe black people anymore unless they're trying to censor themselves from saying ? .
  • Jabu_Rule
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    We don't know what we want to call ourselves. African Americans have the largest struggle trying to identify themselves as a group with a separate history from other black folks. A white man from South Africa can call himself African American. Fortunately, they just go with South African..
  • LUClEN
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    Afro-American

    We call white people melanin challenged
  • StillFaggyAF
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    ? or Afro-American> African American
  • Chi Snow
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    I don't see the problem in this one
  • So ILL
    So ILL Members Posts: 16,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Not Black, but it could've been a lot worse, like "? " or "? ".
  • The Iconoclast
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    It's an antiquated term ...nobody uses ? "? " to describe black people anymore unless they're trying to censor themselves from saying ? .

    Exactly. It's fairly obvious why people are offended when whites use antiquated descriptors to refer to us.

    Terms like 'colored' and '? ' have a harmful history attached to them and invoke images of overt racism. Most whites who prefer using them are older and it allows them to cling on one of the last relics of a time "when blacks knew their place."
  • D0wn
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    ? or Afro-American> African American

    Whats the difference between afro american and african american???

    Show me a place on the map called Negroe????
    Where are there yellow americans??? show me the brown americans???
    ? still on some dumb ? in 2014.
  • Shizlansky
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    Hispanics say ? all the time when saying "black dude"
  • Rubato Garcia
    Rubato Garcia Members Posts: 4,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Shizlansky wrote: »
    Hispanics say ? all the time when saying "black dude"

    Better than "miate"
  • StillFaggyAF
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    D0wn wrote: »
    ? or Afro-American> African American

    Whats the difference between afro american and african american???

    Show me a place on the map called Negroe????
    Where are there yellow americans??? show me the brown americans???
    ? still on some dumb ? in 2014.

    The Afro was popularized by americans of african descent, denotes a loose connection to Africa (americans are the most removed from African culture of all the diaspora its unfair to call all black americans African-American) and isnt a pejorative

    Show me the country called Mynigga
  • LUClEN
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    D0wn wrote: »
    ? or Afro-American> African American

    Whats the difference between afro american and african american???

    Show me a place on the map called Negroe????
    Where are there yellow americans??? show me the brown americans???
    ? still on some dumb ? in 2014.

    Kai is an African American
    She was born in Africa and later gained American Citizenship

    Most of the people we call African Americans have never even been to Africa though
    So it makes more sense to use the prefix Afro, which implies African descent but not direct ancestry
  • StillFaggyAF
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    Every other country uses Afro-

    Ie Afro Cuban, Afro Columbian, Afro Caribbean etc

    ? does have bad history ill admit
  • D0wn
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    D0wn wrote: »
    ? or Afro-American> African American

    Whats the difference between afro american and african american???

    Show me a place on the map called Negroe????
    Where are there yellow americans??? show me the brown americans???
    ? still on some dumb ? in 2014.

    The Afro was popularized by americans of african descent, denotes a loose connection to Africa (americans are the most removed from African culture of all the diaspora its unfair to call all black americans African-American) and isnt a pejorative

    Show me the country called Mynigga

    African culture? There is no such.
    African Cultures. Yes.
    U can go to one african country,and come a cross 20 different cultures on average.
    Africans are more diverse culturally than african americans.


    Removed?
    ? skin aint various shade of brown no more ?? hair aint curly to kinky no more?

    ? said removed. Lmao
    Somebody already posted miseducation of the negroe .
    U need to read that youngion.
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  • D0wn
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    Trashboat wrote: »
    D0wn wrote: »
    ? or Afro-American> African American

    Whats the difference between afro american and african american???

    Show me a place on the map called Negroe????
    Where are there yellow americans??? show me the brown americans???
    ? still on some dumb ? in 2014.

    Kai is an African American
    She was born in Africa and later gained American Citizenship

    Most of the people we call African Americans have never even been to Africa though
    So it makes more sense to use the prefix Afro, which implies African descent but not direct ancestry

    No ? , Kai is a Somilian American.
    She has a nationality, she has a identity. ? , she has a damn flag to wave.
    Were the ? is the afro-american flag?
    Wheres the Afro continent ? ? Is it next to the continent called Weave?
    ? dont even understand the science Marcus Garvey brought u chimps, damn near a 100 years ago. ? still on square 1. When Marcus done showed u ? , how to get to the boss level a century ago.