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Luciferianism is a belief system that includes both theistic and secular denominations, and is therefore heavily influenced by personal perspectives and experiences. Considered by many to be a religion and by some to be a philosophy or way of life, Luciferianism as a whole has no specific dogma to which its “followers” adhere. Rather, it is a deeply personal outlook with numerous variations ranging from the veneration of a literal deity and the practice of occultism to a secular set of principles, using mythological references as a form of symbolism and cultural tradition.

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'Lucifer' (Latin: literally meaning 'light bearing') has not always been associated with the fallen angel, Satan. Originally, it was simply the Roman name of the planet Venus, the 'morning star' that rose just before the sun. ... In Isaiah 14:12, we find the Hebrew phrase, "HeYLeL BeN-ShaCHaR", meaning 'bright son of the morning/dawn' (i.e. 'bright/glowing morning star'). In the Greek version of the Old Testament (the Septuagint), this was translated as 'Phosphorus' (the Greek name of the morning star), and thence translated 'Lucifer' in the Latin Vulgate bible. Isaiah chapter 14 probably condemns the arrogance of the kings of Babylon who considered themselves glorious as the morning star, yet fell to earth. However, due to a confusion of the passages Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18 and Revelation 12:7-10, the name 'Lucifer' became applied to the Devil.
For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. They prize the wonders of nature and seek to connect with the natural world and the universe that humans inhabit, in order to move humankind forward, whether it be physically or socially. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid.

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Luciferianism is inextricably linked to the concept of femininity, knowledge, and light. Whereas Abrahamic dogmas have all but completely villainized womanhood by oppressing and painting the female gender as a weak, illogical, and deceitful thing, Luciferianism reveals that femininity is necessary for balance and knowledge.
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  • zombie
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    I told you you're a serpent
  • blackamerica
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    Just another name for the higher degrees of freemasonry. Same thing just worded different
  • waterproof
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    Luciferianism is a belief system that includes both theistic and secular denominations, and is therefore heavily influenced by personal perspectives and experiences. Considered by many to be a religion and by some to be a philosophy or way of life, Luciferianism as a whole has no specific dogma to which its “followers” adhere. Rather, it is a deeply personal outlook with numerous variations ranging from the veneration of a literal deity and the practice of occultism to a secular set of principles, using mythological references as a form of symbolism and cultural tradition.

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    'Lucifer' (Latin: literally meaning 'light bearing') has not always been associated with the fallen angel, Satan. Originally, it was simply the Roman name of the planet Venus, the 'morning star' that rose just before the sun. ... In Isaiah 14:12, we find the Hebrew phrase, "HeYLeL BeN-ShaCHaR", meaning 'bright son of the morning/dawn' (i.e. 'bright/glowing morning star'). In the Greek version of the Old Testament (the Septuagint), this was translated as 'Phosphorus' (the Greek name of the morning star), and thence translated 'Lucifer' in the Latin Vulgate bible. Isaiah chapter 14 probably condemns the arrogance of the kings of Babylon who considered themselves glorious as the morning star, yet fell to earth. However, due to a confusion of the passages Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18 and Revelation 12:7-10, the name 'Lucifer' became applied to the Devil.
    For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. They prize the wonders of nature and seek to connect with the natural world and the universe that humans inhabit, in order to move humankind forward, whether it be physically or socially. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one’s ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid.

    isis-and-horus1.jpg

    Luciferianism is inextricably linked to the concept of femininity, knowledge, and light. Whereas Abrahamic dogmas have all but completely villainized womanhood by oppressing and painting the female gender as a weak, illogical, and deceitful thing, Luciferianism reveals that femininity is necessary for balance and knowledge.

    The Devil is a lie, The Torah do not have Dogma for women, there's many women Prophets in The Torah and a Hebrew Woman by The Name of Ruth saved Israel and killed Israel opressor
  • kingblaze84
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    Nice pictures and interesting philosophy
  • The_Jackal
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    Nice copying Wikipedia. What it doesn't say is Satan is no person in general and that Lucifer or Devil has always been used as his name. And as waterproof said there is nodogma of women being painted as weak. One of the most revered people in Christianity is the ? Mary. Lucifer worshiped himself and this religion is a carbon copy of him.
  • zombie
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    thread starter is better off being an atheist. I can't believe people are out there really ? with Satan philosophy.
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  • soul rattler
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Nice copying Wikipedia. What it doesn't say is Satan is no person in general and that Lucifer or Devil has always been used as his name. And as waterproof said there is nodogma of women being painted as weak. One of the most revered people in Christianity is the ? Mary. Lucifer worshiped himself and this religion is a carbon copy of him.

    1. Neither Satan, Lucifer, nor Devil refer to any specific individual. Those are all titles which are designated to whoever fits the bill. Lux Ferre = light bringer

    2. So your bible isn't sexist?
    GENESIS
    2:22 Eve created from Adam’s rib.
    3:16 Eve cursed with painful childbirth and ? by husband.
    4:19 Man marries two wives.
    12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
    19:1-8 ? ? daughters instead of male angels.
    19:26 Lot’s wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying ? .
    19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while ? .
    20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife – again.
    25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.

    EXODUS
    20:17 Wife as property.
    21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
    21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for sex. Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set “free” without payment of money.
    22:18 ? witches.

    LEVITICUS
    12:1-8 Childbirth unclean, Women need to make atonement after childbirth.
    15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
    20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual transgressions.
    21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
    21:9 Burn daughters.
    21:13-14 Priest must marry ? , not “used” woman.

    NUMBERS
    1:2 Census lists only men – women do not count.
    5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
    30:1-16 Woman’s vow invalid unless approved by her father or husband.
    31:17-18 ? all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
    12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.

    DEUTERONOMY
    20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
    22:13-21 Stone non-? bride.
    22:23-24 Stone ? and ? victim.
    22:28 ? victim must marry ? ; ? victim’s father compensated for depreciation of his property.
    25:11-12 Cut woman’s hand for touching foe’s ? .
    24:1-5 Man can “send” wife from HIS house. Man must not marry “used” woman.
    28:18 The FRUIT of your ? will be cursed – eclectic “pro-life” verse!

    JUDGES
    5:30 Women are spoils of war.
    14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
    16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
    CH 19 Concubine pack-? and butchered.
    21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved virgins for wives.
    21:21 Abducted girls for wives.

    1 SAMUEL
    15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, ? men, women, children and livestock.
    22:19 ? all inc. infants and livestock.
    21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.

    2 SAMUEL
    5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
    CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
    16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father’s concubines.
    6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.

    1 KINGS
    11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    2 KINGS
    9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.

    2 CHRONICLES
    15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
    11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.

    ESTHER
    CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting “bad” example to all other women.

    PSALMS
    51:5 Sinful since conception.
    127:3 Sons are heritage from ? .
    137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.

    PROVERBS
    CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
    CH 7 More of the above.
    6:24 As above.
    31:3 Do not waste strength on women.

    ISAIAH
    3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
    4:4 Filthy women.
    13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
    19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)

    EZEKIEL
    9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
    CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity…
    CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters – reads like the script of a pornographic film. I bet you weren’t told this story at Sunday school!

    HOSEA
    13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another “pro-life” verse!)

    NAHUM
    3:4… wanton ? of a harlot… prostitution… witchcraft.
    3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
    3:13… Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)

    MATTHEW
    5:32 Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce husband for the same?
    CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.

    LUKE
    2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
    2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.

    I CORINTHIANS
    11:2-10… Woman created for man.
    14:34 Women must be silent in churches.

    EPHESIANS
    5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.

    COLOSSIANS
    3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
    3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.

    I TIMOTHY
    2:11-15 Woman must not have authority – she must be silent. Women can be saved with childbearing.
    5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash saints’ feet.

    1 PETER
    2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
    3:1 Wives submit.
    3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.

    REVELATION
    CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
    14:4…they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept themselves pure.
    "But but but Ruth and Mary!" Ruth isn't an example of biblical gender equality, it is an exception to biblical sexism. And the story of the "? " Mary was stolen and watered down from Ancient Egyptian mysticism because the forefathers of Christianity disliked the idea of a woman being elevated to godhood. Isis was a Goddess who gave birth to get another ? in the pantheon of Kemetic polytheism. This lie of Mary being a regular ol woman was to devalue her true status as if a woman is only good for childbirth. Look at the way Islam treats its women.

    Why do you think you refer to your G-d as "he"?
  • The_Jackal
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    But in revelation he is identified directly as the devil the decider of the whole world being cost down with his angels.

    As far as the sexist part you just picked a bunch of verse with no contexts.

    Just off the top of my head can say Abraham never prostitute d his wife. He was in fear of his life both times and claimed she was his sister. The Pharoah did not know her neither did the other men. In ? noone was ? . Lots wife was struck down just like any man would have been if they disobeyed ? .

    As for Mary that's a lie that's been spread since that ? movie on youtube was made. Women have always been held high in Christianity just look at Catholics Mary is only second to Jesus himseld
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    Funny... I was just thinking to myself the other day, "you know what I'm in the mood for right now? Some good ol Satan".
  • Ajackson17
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    Satan mmmmmmmmmmmmm
  • waterproof
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Nice copying Wikipedia. What it doesn't say is Satan is no person in general and that Lucifer or Devil has always been used as his name. And as waterproof said there is nodogma of women being painted as weak. One of the most revered people in Christianity is the ? Mary. Lucifer worshiped himself and this religion is a carbon copy of him.

    1. Neither Satan, Lucifer, nor Devil refer to any specific individual. Those are all titles which are designated to whoever fits the bill. Lux Ferre = light bringer

    2. So your bible isn't sexist?
    GENESIS
    2:22 Eve created from Adam’s rib.
    3:16 Eve cursed with painful childbirth and ? by husband.
    4:19 Man marries two wives.
    12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
    19:1-8 ? ? daughters instead of male angels.
    19:26 Lot’s wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying ? .
    19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while ? .
    20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife – again.
    25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.

    EXODUS
    20:17 Wife as property.
    21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
    21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for sex. Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set “free” without payment of money.
    22:18 ? witches.

    LEVITICUS
    12:1-8 Childbirth unclean, Women need to make atonement after childbirth.
    15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
    20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual transgressions.
    21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
    21:9 Burn daughters.
    21:13-14 Priest must marry ? , not “used” woman.

    NUMBERS
    1:2 Census lists only men – women do not count.
    5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
    30:1-16 Woman’s vow invalid unless approved by her father or husband.
    31:17-18 ? all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
    12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.

    DEUTERONOMY
    20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
    22:13-21 Stone non-? bride.
    22:23-24 Stone ? and ? victim.
    22:28 ? victim must marry ? ; ? victim’s father compensated for depreciation of his property.
    25:11-12 Cut woman’s hand for touching foe’s ? .
    24:1-5 Man can “send” wife from HIS house. Man must not marry “used” woman.
    28:18 The FRUIT of your ? will be cursed – eclectic “pro-life” verse!

    JUDGES
    5:30 Women are spoils of war.
    14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
    16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
    CH 19 Concubine pack-? and butchered.
    21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved virgins for wives.
    21:21 Abducted girls for wives.

    1 SAMUEL
    15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, ? men, women, children and livestock.
    22:19 ? all inc. infants and livestock.
    21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.

    2 SAMUEL
    5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
    CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
    16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father’s concubines.
    6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.

    1 KINGS
    11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    2 KINGS
    9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.

    2 CHRONICLES
    15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
    11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.

    ESTHER
    CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting “bad” example to all other women.

    PSALMS
    51:5 Sinful since conception.
    127:3 Sons are heritage from ? .
    137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.

    PROVERBS
    CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
    CH 7 More of the above.
    6:24 As above.
    31:3 Do not waste strength on women.

    ISAIAH
    3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
    4:4 Filthy women.
    13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
    19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)

    EZEKIEL
    9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
    CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity…
    CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters – reads like the script of a pornographic film. I bet you weren’t told this story at Sunday school!

    HOSEA
    13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another “pro-life” verse!)

    NAHUM
    3:4… wanton ? of a harlot… prostitution… witchcraft.
    3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
    3:13… Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)

    MATTHEW
    5:32 Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce husband for the same?
    CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.

    LUKE
    2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
    2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.

    I CORINTHIANS
    11:2-10… Woman created for man.
    14:34 Women must be silent in churches.

    EPHESIANS
    5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.

    COLOSSIANS
    3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
    3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.

    I TIMOTHY
    2:11-15 Woman must not have authority – she must be silent. Women can be saved with childbearing.
    5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash saints’ feet.

    1 PETER
    2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
    3:1 Wives submit.
    3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.

    REVELATION
    CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
    14:4…they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept themselves pure.
    "But but but Ruth and Mary!" Ruth isn't an example of biblical gender equality, it is an exception to biblical sexism. And the story of the "? " Mary was stolen and watered down from Ancient Egyptian mysticism because the forefathers of Christianity disliked the idea of a woman being elevated to godhood. Isis was a Goddess who gave birth to get another ? in the pantheon of Kemetic polytheism. This lie of Mary being a regular ol woman was to devalue her true status as if a woman is only good for childbirth. Look at the way Islam treats its women.

    Why do you think you refer to your G-d as "he"?

    I could destroyed that whole list if I wanted to right now, but you is a coward I called you out twice and you failed to respond, that's how I know you got that spirit that was on beenwize.

    You see coward, Yah do not deal with cowardly men.

    You stupid ass heathen don't you know the holy spirit is a woman
  • soul rattler
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    waterproof wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Nice copying Wikipedia. What it doesn't say is Satan is no person in general and that Lucifer or Devil has always been used as his name. And as waterproof said there is nodogma of women being painted as weak. One of the most revered people in Christianity is the ? Mary. Lucifer worshiped himself and this religion is a carbon copy of him.

    1. Neither Satan, Lucifer, nor Devil refer to any specific individual. Those are all titles which are designated to whoever fits the bill. Lux Ferre = light bringer

    2. So your bible isn't sexist?
    GENESIS
    2:22 Eve created from Adam’s rib.
    3:16 Eve cursed with painful childbirth and ? by husband.
    4:19 Man marries two wives.
    12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
    19:1-8 ? ? daughters instead of male angels.
    19:26 Lot’s wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying ? .
    19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while ? .
    20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife – again.
    25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.

    EXODUS
    20:17 Wife as property.
    21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
    21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for sex. Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set “free” without payment of money.
    22:18 ? witches.

    LEVITICUS
    12:1-8 Childbirth unclean, Women need to make atonement after childbirth.
    15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
    20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual transgressions.
    21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
    21:9 Burn daughters.
    21:13-14 Priest must marry ? , not “used” woman.

    NUMBERS
    1:2 Census lists only men – women do not count.
    5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
    30:1-16 Woman’s vow invalid unless approved by her father or husband.
    31:17-18 ? all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
    12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.

    DEUTERONOMY
    20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
    22:13-21 Stone non-? bride.
    22:23-24 Stone ? and ? victim.
    22:28 ? victim must marry ? ; ? victim’s father compensated for depreciation of his property.
    25:11-12 Cut woman’s hand for touching foe’s ? .
    24:1-5 Man can “send” wife from HIS house. Man must not marry “used” woman.
    28:18 The FRUIT of your ? will be cursed – eclectic “pro-life” verse!

    JUDGES
    5:30 Women are spoils of war.
    14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
    16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
    CH 19 Concubine pack-? and butchered.
    21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved virgins for wives.
    21:21 Abducted girls for wives.

    1 SAMUEL
    15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, ? men, women, children and livestock.
    22:19 ? all inc. infants and livestock.
    21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.

    2 SAMUEL
    5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
    CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
    16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father’s concubines.
    6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.

    1 KINGS
    11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    2 KINGS
    9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.

    2 CHRONICLES
    15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
    11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.

    ESTHER
    CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting “bad” example to all other women.

    PSALMS
    51:5 Sinful since conception.
    127:3 Sons are heritage from ? .
    137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.

    PROVERBS
    CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
    CH 7 More of the above.
    6:24 As above.
    31:3 Do not waste strength on women.

    ISAIAH
    3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
    4:4 Filthy women.
    13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
    19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)

    EZEKIEL
    9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
    CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity…
    CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters – reads like the script of a pornographic film. I bet you weren’t told this story at Sunday school!

    HOSEA
    13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another “pro-life” verse!)

    NAHUM
    3:4… wanton ? of a harlot… prostitution… witchcraft.
    3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
    3:13… Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)

    MATTHEW
    5:32 Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce husband for the same?
    CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.

    LUKE
    2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
    2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.

    I CORINTHIANS
    11:2-10… Woman created for man.
    14:34 Women must be silent in churches.

    EPHESIANS
    5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.

    COLOSSIANS
    3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
    3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.

    I TIMOTHY
    2:11-15 Woman must not have authority – she must be silent. Women can be saved with childbearing.
    5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash saints’ feet.

    1 PETER
    2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
    3:1 Wives submit.
    3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.

    REVELATION
    CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
    14:4…they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept themselves pure.
    "But but but Ruth and Mary!" Ruth isn't an example of biblical gender equality, it is an exception to biblical sexism. And the story of the "? " Mary was stolen and watered down from Ancient Egyptian mysticism because the forefathers of Christianity disliked the idea of a woman being elevated to godhood. Isis was a Goddess who gave birth to get another ? in the pantheon of Kemetic polytheism. This lie of Mary being a regular ol woman was to devalue her true status as if a woman is only good for childbirth. Look at the way Islam treats its women.

    Why do you think you refer to your G-d as "he"?

    I could destroyed that whole list if I wanted to right now, but you is a coward I called you out twice and you failed to respond, that's how I know you got that spirit that was on beenwize.

    You see coward, Yah do not deal with cowardly men.

    You stupid ass heathen don't you know the holy spirit is a woman

    You couldn't possibly call me out. You don't have the vision cause if you did, you would have seen me already address your silly ass argument about Ruth.
  • waterproof
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    waterproof wrote: »
    The_Jackal wrote: »
    Nice copying Wikipedia. What it doesn't say is Satan is no person in general and that Lucifer or Devil has always been used as his name. And as waterproof said there is nodogma of women being painted as weak. One of the most revered people in Christianity is the ? Mary. Lucifer worshiped himself and this religion is a carbon copy of him.

    1. Neither Satan, Lucifer, nor Devil refer to any specific individual. Those are all titles which are designated to whoever fits the bill. Lux Ferre = light bringer

    2. So your bible isn't sexist?
    GENESIS
    2:22 Eve created from Adam’s rib.
    3:16 Eve cursed with painful childbirth and ? by husband.
    4:19 Man marries two wives.
    12:13-19 Abraham prostitutes wife.
    19:1-8 ? ? daughters instead of male angels.
    19:26 Lot’s wife turned into pillar of salt for disobeying ? .
    19:30-38 Lot impregnates his two daughters while ? .
    20:2-12 Abraham prostitutes wife – again.
    25:1-6 Keeping many concubines is OK.

    EXODUS
    20:17 Wife as property.
    21:4 Wife and children belong to master.
    21:7-11 OK to sell daughters. Female slaves can be used for sex. Polygamy permitted. Unwanted female slaves can be set “free” without payment of money.
    22:18 ? witches.

    LEVITICUS
    12:1-8 Childbirth unclean, Women need to make atonement after childbirth.
    15:19-32 Menstruating women are unclean.
    20:10-16 Death penalty for homosexuality and various sexual transgressions.
    21:7 Priests must not marry prostitutes or divorcees.
    21:9 Burn daughters.
    21:13-14 Priest must marry ? , not “used” woman.

    NUMBERS
    1:2 Census lists only men – women do not count.
    5:11-31 Fidelity test for women only.
    30:1-16 Woman’s vow invalid unless approved by her father or husband.
    31:17-18 ? all except virgins. Keep virgins for yourselves.
    12 Miriam punished for rebuking Moses.

    DEUTERONOMY
    20:14 Take women, livestock as plunder.
    22:13-21 Stone non-? bride.
    22:23-24 Stone ? and ? victim.
    22:28 ? victim must marry ? ; ? victim’s father compensated for depreciation of his property.
    25:11-12 Cut woman’s hand for touching foe’s ? .
    24:1-5 Man can “send” wife from HIS house. Man must not marry “used” woman.
    28:18 The FRUIT of your ? will be cursed – eclectic “pro-life” verse!

    JUDGES
    5:30 Women are spoils of war.
    14:20 Samson gives wife to another man.
    16:1 Samson visits prostitute.
    CH 19 Concubine pack-? and butchered.
    21:10-12 Slaughtered all inc. women and children. Saved virgins for wives.
    21:21 Abducted girls for wives.

    1 SAMUEL
    15:2-3 Attack Amalekites, ? men, women, children and livestock.
    22:19 ? all inc. infants and livestock.
    21:4-5 Men avoid defilement with women.

    2 SAMUEL
    5:13 David took many wives and concubines.
    CH 13 Ammon rapes his own sister.
    16:21-22 Absalom sleeps with his father’s concubines.
    6:20-23 Mischal punished with bareness.

    1 KINGS
    11:3 Solomon had 700 wives and 300 concubines.

    2 KINGS
    9:30-37 Brutal murder of Jezebel.

    2 CHRONICLES
    15:13 Put to death unbelievers.
    11:21 Hoards of wives and concubines.

    ESTHER
    CH 1-2 Queen Vashti dethroned for disobedience; setting “bad” example to all other women.

    PSALMS
    51:5 Sinful since conception.
    127:3 Sons are heritage from ? .
    137:9 Seizes infants and dashes them against rocks.

    PROVERBS
    CH 5 Beware of wicked women!
    CH 7 More of the above.
    6:24 As above.
    31:3 Do not waste strength on women.

    ISAIAH
    3:16-26 Lord punishes haughty women.
    4:4 Filthy women.
    13:16 Ravish wives, dash infants.
    19:16 Will be like women! (insult to Egyptians)

    EZEKIEL
    9:6-7 Slaughter all including children.
    CH 16 Prostitutes, stoning, promiscuity…
    CH 23 Tale of two adulterous sisters – reads like the script of a pornographic film. I bet you weren’t told this story at Sunday school!

    HOSEA
    13:16 Rip pregnant women, dash little ones. (Another “pro-life” verse!)

    NAHUM
    3:4… wanton ? of a harlot… prostitution… witchcraft.
    3:5 I will lift your skirts over your face!
    3:13… Your troops are all women. (insult to Nineveh)

    MATTHEW
    5:32 Husband can divorce wife for adultery. Can wife divorce husband for the same?
    CH 25 Sexist tale of ten virgins.

    LUKE
    2:22 Mary must be purified after birth of Jesus.
    2:49 Jesus rebukes his mother.

    I CORINTHIANS
    11:2-10… Woman created for man.
    14:34 Women must be silent in churches.

    EPHESIANS
    5:22-24 Wives must submit to husbands in everything.

    COLOSSIANS
    3:18 Wives submit to husbands.
    3:22 Slaves must obey masters in everything.

    I TIMOTHY
    2:11-15 Woman must not have authority – she must be silent. Women can be saved with childbearing.
    5:9-10 Widows should be faithful to husband and must wash saints’ feet.

    1 PETER
    2:18 Slaves submit to masters, even masters who are harsh.
    3:1 Wives submit.
    3:5-6 Sarah calls husband master.

    REVELATION
    CH 17 Destroy great prostitute.
    14:4…they did not DEFILE themselves with women but kept themselves pure.
    "But but but Ruth and Mary!" Ruth isn't an example of biblical gender equality, it is an exception to biblical sexism. And the story of the "? " Mary was stolen and watered down from Ancient Egyptian mysticism because the forefathers of Christianity disliked the idea of a woman being elevated to godhood. Isis was a Goddess who gave birth to get another ? in the pantheon of Kemetic polytheism. This lie of Mary being a regular ol woman was to devalue her true status as if a woman is only good for childbirth. Look at the way Islam treats its women.

    Why do you think you refer to your G-d as "he"?

    I could destroyed that whole list if I wanted to right now, but you is a coward I called you out twice and you failed to respond, that's how I know you got that spirit that was on beenwize.

    You see coward, Yah do not deal with cowardly men.

    You stupid ass heathen don't you know the holy spirit is a woman

    You couldn't possibly call me out. You don't have the vision cause if you did, you would have seen me already address your silly ass argument about Ruth.

    Coward look up the Book of Judith and get back to me, in fact I advise everybody to read the book of Judith and just that scripture shut this down
  • Ajackson17
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    Mmmmhmmm Judith sounds sooo good.
  • Black Boy King
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    Lucifer son of the morning! Imma gonna chase you outta earthhhhhh lol
  • Black Boy King
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    I find it interesting that evolutionist call the first man Lucy

    Of course we know they are referring to the father of the crackas, the hairy cave man from the caucus


    Interesting enough we know the white man (Esau) is the devil

    could Lucy be short for Lucifer?

    Mmmmm

    Lucy = Lucifer = father of the "white man" (more like red man, aka redneck)



    John 8:44
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    Has not the white I mean red man lied to us about everything?

    Don't they always paint the depiction of Satan as red?



    Hmmmmmmmmm lol...."coincidence" is not a Hebrew concept :)
  • Ajackson17
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    What did the white man lied to you about?
  • kingblaze84
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    But in revelation he is identified directly as the devil the decider of the whole world being cost down with his angels.

    As far as the sexist part you just picked a bunch of verse with no contexts.

    Just off the top of my head can say Abraham never prostitute d his wife. He was in fear of his life both times and claimed she was his sister. The Pharoah did not know her neither did the other men. In ? noone was ? . Lots wife was struck down just like any man would have been if they disobeyed ? .

    As for Mary that's a lie that's been spread since that ? movie on youtube was made. Women have always been held high in Christianity just look at Catholics Mary is only second to Jesus himseld

    LMAO.....you know damn well Christianity holds women in low regard. Soul Rattler gave you plenty of verses that show proof of this, what context is needed when the Bible itself says women should just shut up and are repeatedly treated as property there?

    As I've said for years now, you Christians often are ashamed of the words the Bible itself uses. Just own up to the sexism of the Bible and accept it.
  • kingblaze84
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    If it wasn't for the word "context", Christians would be unable to defend the horrible sentences and passages of the Bible. Thank ? NO ONE takes the Bible seriously anymore.

    No coincidence ? and Columbus found so much use for the Bible, it easily supported (and co-signed) their ? up worldview.
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    The_Jackal wrote: »
    But in revelation he is identified directly as the devil the decider of the whole world being cost down with his angels.

    As far as the sexist part you just picked a bunch of verse with no contexts.

    Just off the top of my head can say Abraham never prostitute d his wife. He was in fear of his life both times and claimed she was his sister. The Pharoah did not know her neither did the other men. In ? noone was ? . Lots wife was struck down just like any man would have been if they disobeyed ? .

    As for Mary that's a lie that's been spread since that ? movie on youtube was made. Women have always been held high in Christianity just look at Catholics Mary is only second to Jesus himseld

    LMAO.....you know damn well Christianity holds women in low regard. Soul Rattler gave you plenty of verses that show proof of this, what context is needed when the Bible itself says women should just shut up and are repeatedly treated as property there?

    As I've said for years now, you Christians often are ashamed of the words the Bible itself uses. Just own up to the sexism of the Bible and accept it.

    That's just false. My whole point of pointing out those few examples were to show that the verses he pulled were horribly out of context just like all of the ones he posted.
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    If it wasn't for the word "context", Christians would be unable to defend the horrible sentences and passages of the Bible. Thank ? NO ONE takes the Bible seriously anymore.

    No coincidence ? and Columbus found so much use for the Bible, it easily supported (and co-signed) their ? up worldview.

    what the ? are you talking about i take the bible serious and millions of other people do as well. in fact people today take the teachings of christ more serious than in the past, that's why atheist are allowed to speak their filth and why people who hate the major religion of this country and the majority of the western world are allowed to keep living. If we did not take those teaching serious people like you would be put in jail or shot
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    Between that Satan thread and this one, I'd already fit right in.

    I don't want to deal with that kind of commitment and responsibility. I like to just wing it, ya dig?
  • kingblaze84
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    zombie wrote: »
    If it wasn't for the word "context", Christians would be unable to defend the horrible sentences and passages of the Bible. Thank ? NO ONE takes the Bible seriously anymore.

    No coincidence ? and Columbus found so much use for the Bible, it easily supported (and co-signed) their ? up worldview.

    what the ? are you talking about i take the bible serious and millions of other people do as well. in fact people today take the teachings of christ more serious than in the past, that's why atheist are allowed to speak their filth and why people who hate the major religion of this country and the majority of the western world are allowed to keep living. If we did not take those teaching serious people like you would be put in jail or shot

    Well it's funny you say that because as I just said, THANK ? no one really takes the Bible seriously. You do know the Bible says death is the punishment for believing in diff gods or even multiple gods right? And as you admitted many times in this forum, the Bible ? NOR Jesus ever DISCARDED the Old Testament. You're ashamed of the words of the Bible and you KNOW IT
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    If the Old Testament is so bad in the eyes of most Christians or many of them, why is it part of the Bible? Why does Jesus say himself the old rules of the Bible are not to be dismissed? I'm sick of the double talk by Christians, it's getting sickening at this point