Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: The Coming Race War Won't Be About Race *Long Read*

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1CK1S
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edited August 2014 in The Social Lounge
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ill the recent rioting in Ferguson, Missouri, be a tipping point in the struggle against racial injustice, or will it be a minor footnote in some future grad student’s thesis on Civil Unrest in the Early Twenty-First Century?

You probably have heard of the Kent State shootings: on May 4, 1970, the Ohio National Guard opened fire on student protesters at Kent State University. During those 13 seconds of gunfire, four students were killed and nine were wounded, one of whom was permanently paralyzed. The shock and outcry resulted in a nationwide strike of 4 million students that closed more than 450 campuses. Five days after the shooting, 100,000 protestors gathered in Washington, D.C. And the nation’s youth was energetically mobilized to end the Vietnam War, racism, sexism, and mindless faith in the political establishment.

You probably haven’t heard of the Jackson State shootings.

On May 14th, 10 days after Kent State ignited the nation, at the predominantly black Jackson State University in Mississippi, police killed two black students (one a high school senior, the other the father of an 18-month-old baby) with shotguns and wounded twelve others.

There was no national outcry. The nation was not mobilized to do anything. That heartless leviathan we call History swallowed that event whole, erasing it from the national memory.

And, unless we want the Ferguson atrocity to also be swallowed and become nothing more than an intestinal irritant to history, we have to address the situation not just as another act of systemic racism, but as what else it is: class warfare.

By focusing on just the racial aspect, the discussion becomes about whether Michael Brown’s death—or that of the other three unarmed black men who were killed by police in the U.S. within that month—is about discrimination or about police justification. Then we’ll argue about whether there isn’t just as much black-against-white racism in the U.S. as there is white-against-black. (Yes, there is. But, in general, white-against-black economically impacts the future of the black community. Black-against-white has almost no measurable social impact.)

Then we’ll start debating whether or not the police in America are themselves an endangered minority who are also discriminated against based on their color—blue. (Yes, they are. There are many factors to consider before condemning police, including political pressures, inadequate training, and arcane policies.) Then we’ll question whether blacks are more often shot because they more often commit crimes. (In fact, studies show that blacks are targeted more often in some cities, like New York City. It’s difficult to get a bigger national picture because studies are woefully inadequate. The Department of Justice study shows that in the U.S. between 2003 and 2009, among arrest-related deaths there’s very little difference among blacks, whites, or Latinos. However, the study doesn’t tell us how many were unarmed.)

This fist-shaking of everyone’s racial agenda distracts America from the larger issue that the targets of police overreaction are based less on skin color and more on an even worse Ebola-level affliction: being poor. Of course, to many in America, being a person of color is synonymous with being poor, and being poor is synonymous with being a criminal. Ironically, this misperception is true even among the poor.

And that’s how the status quo wants it.

The U.S. Census Report finds that 50 million Americans are poor. Fifty million voters is a powerful block if they ever organized in an effort to pursue their common economic goals. So, it’s crucial that those in the wealthiest One Percent keep the poor fractured by distracting them with emotional issues like immigration, abortion and gun control so they never stop to wonder how they got so screwed over for so long.

One way to keep these 50 million fractured is through disinformation. PunditFact’s recent scorecard on network news concluded that at Fox and Fox News Channel, 60 percent of claims are false. At NBC and MSNBC, 46 percent of claims were deemed false. That’s the “news,” folks! During the Ferguson riots, Fox News ran a black and white photo of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., with the bold caption: “Forgetting MLK’s Message/Protestors in Missouri Turn to Violence.” Did they run such a caption when either Presidents Bush invaded Iraq: “Forgetting Jesus Christ’s Message/U.S. Forgets to Turn Cheek and Kills Thousands”?

How can viewers make reasonable choices in a democracy if their sources of information are corrupted? They can’t, which is exactly how the One Percent controls the fate of the Ninety-Nine Percent.

Worse, certain politicians and entrepreneurs conspire to keep the poor just as they are. On his HBO comedic news show Last Week Tonight, John Oliver ran an expose of the payday loan business and those who so callously exploit the desperation of the poor. How does an industry that extorts up to 1,900 percent interest on loans get away with it? In Texas, State Rep. Gary Elkins blocked a regulatory bill, despite the fact that he owns a chain of payday loan stores. And the politician who kept badgering Elkins about his conflict of interest, Rep. Vicki Truitt, became a lobbyist for ACE Cash Express just 17 days after leaving office. In essence, Oliver showed how the poor are lured into such a loan, only to be unable to pay it back and having to secure yet another loan. The cycle shall be unbroken.

Dystopian books and movies like Snowpiercer, The Giver, Divergent, Hunger Games, and Elysium have been the rage for the past few years. Not just because they express teen frustration at authority figures. That would explain some of the popularity among younger audiences, but not among twentysomethings and even older adults. The real reason we flock to see Donald Sutherland’s porcelain portrayal in Hunger Games of a cold, ruthless president of the U.S. dedicated to preserving the rich while grinding his heel into the necks of the poor is that it rings true in a society in which the One Percent gets richer while our middle class is collapsing.



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  • A Talented One
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    Didn't read (maybe later), but the case is about race.
  • detcatinva
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    Great drop from the GOAT
  • BoldChild
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    The U.S. Census Report finds that 50 million Americans are poor. Fifty million voters is a powerful block if they ever organized in an effort to pursue their common economic goals. So, it’s crucial that those in the wealthiest One Percent keep the poor fractured by distracting them with emotional issues like immigration, abortion and gun control so they never stop to wonder how they got so screwed over for so long.

    One way to keep these 50 million fractured is through disinformation. PunditFact’s recent scorecard on network news concluded that at Fox and Fox News Channel, 60 percent of claims are false. At NBC and MSNBC, 46 percent of claims were deemed false. That’s the “news,” folks! During the Ferguson riots, Fox News ran a black and white photo of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., with the bold caption: “Forgetting MLK’s Message/Protestors in Missouri Turn to Violence.” Did they run such a caption when either Presidents Bush invaded Iraq: “Forgetting Jesus Christ’s Message/U.S. Forgets to Turn Cheek and Kills Thousands”?

    How can viewers make reasonable choices in a democracy if their sources of information are corrupted? They can’t, which is exactly how the One Percent controls the fate of the Ninety-Nine Percent.

    Goat'd for this.
  • LUClEN
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    Humans ain't ?
  • GorillaWitAttitude
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    Abdul is right and it's great he can make more people aware.
  • reapin505
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  • BoldChild
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    reapin505 wrote: »

    And of course, it's a white ? putting words in Kareem's mouth.

    Tim "the white ? " Graham's claim.
    and then suggested being black and being poor are synonymous?

    What Kareem actually said.
    Of course, to many in America, being a person of color is synonymous with being poor, and being poor is synonymous with being a criminal. Ironically, this misperception is true even among the poor.
  • S2J
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    Nah...it just isnt that complicated. I dont gaf how intelligently you word it, Mike Brown is dead bc of white fear of black men, more specifically, a black 'kid' in their eyes is a black 'man' threat wise way younger than white.

    Period.

    I've said before on here, when big issues happen and the talking points are all along the same lines, it never fails that somebody is gonna come on some 'hmm, how can i bring something different to the table'
    Its just not that complicated, period. But nggas are suckers for well-worded and lengthy ? , regardless of how far from the main point it skews.
  • DarcSkies
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    Is it about race? YES. But once you make any mention of race crackers shut down and get defensive. So if you're talking to a large audience its best to dance around the topic.

    My position is speak to blacks only. Its black people that need to hear about racial injustice because we falsely assume black people are educated. You still have ? blacks on here who have the nerve to call other blacks "racist." That's what we're truly up against.

    It only took tens of thousands of people (lawyers, civil rights workers, etc) to get laws changed in this country that ade blacks equal (on paper). So its not like we need EVERYBODY. We just need to work on ourselves. It IS about race. But crackers aint trying to hear that. Best to only speak to blacks and get our own ? in order.
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    And, unless we want the Ferguson atrocity to also be swallowed and become nothing more than an intestinal irritant to history, we have to address the situation not just as another act of systemic racism, but as what else it is: class warfare.

    I don't know how many times this has to be said before we realize this is the REAL issue in this country....

    the powers that be created the whole "race based discrimination" to hide the fact that class warfare is and has always been the real issue in most societies....which of course....is fuled by.....

    pyramid_on_dollar.jpg

    but most people will not wise up to this...and there WILL BE a race war....

    Jeremiah 50: 11-20

    11Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls;

    12Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

    13Because of the wrath of the LORD it shall not be inhabited, but it shall be wholly desolate: every one that goeth by Babylon shall be astonished, and hiss at all her plagues.

    14Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow, shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the LORD.

    15Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her.

    16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.

    17Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones. 18Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the ? of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria.

    19And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead. 20In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.

    wake up.
  • CapitalB
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    i say it all the time..
    it aint about black and white ..that its about green..

    but then a.mann tikd me cause i dont hold a prominent title my words should jus be disregarded..

    so i shut up..
    ? love havin the last word so i allowed him to have it. lol
  • Mister B.
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    And THAT's why Kareem is the true GOAT.....well, that and 38,000+ points. He tells it like it is, and has a social conscious about the world he lives in.
  • DoUwant2go2Heaven
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    KingSimba wrote: »
    And, unless we want the Ferguson atrocity to also be swallowed and become nothing more than an intestinal irritant to history, we have to address the situation not just as another act of systemic racism, but as what else it is: class warfare.

    I don't know how many times this has to be said before we realize this is the REAL issue in this country....

    the powers that be created the whole "race based discrimination" to hide the fact that class warfare is and has always been the real issue in most societies....which of course....is fuled by.....

    pyramid_on_dollar.jpg

    but most people will not wise up to this...and there WILL BE a race war....

    Jeremiah 50: 11-20

    11Because ye were glad, because ye rejoiced, O ye destroyers of mine heritage, because ye are grown fat as the heifer at grass, and bellow as bulls;

    12Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

    13Because of the wrath of the LORD it shall not be inhabited, but it shall be wholly desolate: every one that goeth by Babylon shall be astonished, and hiss at all her plagues.

    14Put yourselves in array against Babylon round about: all ye that bend the bow, shoot at her, spare no arrows: for she hath sinned against the LORD.

    15Shout against her round about: she hath given her hand: her foundations are fallen, her walls are thrown down: for it is the vengeance of the LORD: take vengeance upon her; as she hath done, do unto her.

    16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the sickle in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.

    17Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones. 18Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the ? of Israel; Behold, I will punish the king of Babylon and his land, as I have punished the king of Assyria.

    19And I will bring Israel again to his habitation, and he shall feed on Carmel and Bashan, and his soul shall be satisfied upon mount Ephraim and Gilead. 20In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve.

    wake up.
    Praise ? ! Preach my brother. Amen.
  • caddo man
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    i say it all the time..
    it aint about black and white ..that its about green..


    but then a.mann tikd me cause i dont hold a prominent title my words should jus be disregarded..

    so i shut up..
    ? love havin the last word so i allowed him to have it. lol

    I say this all the time.

    This is a class war. Both sides are losing while the winning side just instigates.
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    IT IS NOT ONLY ABOUT RACE

    WE WILL STAY OPRESSED IF WE KEEP ON THINKING IN A ONE DIMENSIONAL WAY. WE MUST GO 3D!!!.

    Poor/simple thinking = living Poor and dominated

    GOAT THREAD TS
  • LordZuko
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    It is about race. Anyone thinking they have a better chance of getting a W by turning this into a class issue needs to study the labor movements of the mid 1800s. White folks and Black people had set aside racial animosity to fight the common foe only for white folks to betray us.

    Whiteness is a hell of a drug.
  • THIRDSUPREME
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    It is about race. Anyone thinking they have a better chance of getting a W by turning this into a class issue needs to study the labor movements of the mid 1800s. White folks and Black people had set aside racial animosity to fight the common foe only for white folks to betray us.

    Whiteness is a hell of a drug.

    To white people. ...in order for them to win we have to lose. It's war time.
  • caddo man
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    LordZuko wrote: »
    It is about race. Anyone thinking they have a better chance of getting a W by turning this into a class issue needs to study the labor movements of the mid 1800s. White folks and Black people had set aside racial animosity to fight the common foe only for white folks to betray us.

    Whiteness is a hell of a drug.

    Black or white, we are human. WE are afflicted with the same mental and emotional capacities that bring about greed and envy.

    The problem is you have been conditioned to hate the packaging and not the inner working that makes them think that way. Just like you will meet a sneaky conniving white person. You will find a black person with the same traits. Only difference is as human beings we are also package driven, stereotyping and profiling. Society has produced a fog that we constantly find ourselves lost in and we are being sold flashlights that does nothing. Dont be blinded by the fog.
  • LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY
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    caddo man wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    It is about race. Anyone thinking they have a better chance of getting a W by turning this into a class issue needs to study the labor movements of the mid 1800s. White folks and Black people had set aside racial animosity to fight the common foe only for white folks to betray us.

    Whiteness is a hell of a drug.

    Black or white, we are human. WE are afflicted with the same mental and emotional capacities that bring about greed and envy.

    The problem is you have been conditioned to hate the packaging and not the inner working that makes them think that way. Just like you will meet a sneaky conniving white person. You will find a black person with the same traits. Only difference is society is also package driven, stereotyping and profiling. Society has produced a fog that we constantly find ourselves lost in and we are being sold flashlights that does nothing. Dont be blinded by the fog.

    That's 3D thinking.
  • Ajackson17
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    I don't blame the upper echelons of society for doing this power is so lovely. I would have done the same but uh... Yeah power to the people
  • LPast
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    People don't get it. the peons are arguing about race, religion, ? marriage. all while the 1% get richer.

    They don't care about ANY of that ? .
  • Arya Tsaddiq
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    caddo man wrote: »
    LordZuko wrote: »
    It is about race. Anyone thinking they have a better chance of getting a W by turning this into a class issue needs to study the labor movements of the mid 1800s. White folks and Black people had set aside racial animosity to fight the common foe only for white folks to betray us.

    Whiteness is a hell of a drug.

    Black or white, we are human. WE are afflicted with the same mental and emotional capacities that bring about greed and envy.

    The problem is you have been conditioned to hate the packaging and not the inner working that makes them think that way. Just like you will meet a sneaky conniving white person. You will find a black person with the same traits. Only difference is as human beings we are also package driven, stereotyping and profiling. Society has produced a fog that we constantly find ourselves lost in and we are being sold flashlights that does nothing. Dont be blinded by the fog.

    I can understand both views in context. But I agree moreso with this stance. But in reality we have to realize that from this point forward, race will ALWAYS be a deciding factor when deciding allegiance. We have to realize that before identification by ethnicity (or skin tone), people used to be classified by their nation of origin. Blood lines. Black people have no heritage that we can stake claim to...and white people now identify with each other solely on their skin color because of the preferential treatment it awards them worldwide, despite knowing their true heritage...

    we have been conditioned to focus more on our differences than our similarities....by design...

    but ultimately, when all cards are on the table....people will do what they can to preserve themselves and those most like them...period.